K-9 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Clements over Gilmore. Robert James over EVERYONE else. One of the best players, regardless of position, that ever laced them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Clements. But for Best Ever Bill CB, Butch Byrd.I'll go with Robert James as best ever for the Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 When does Gilmore reach his prime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offsides#76FredSmerlas Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 This is a tough call for me. I am going to say Clements. He seemed to give an overall better effort. What do you think? Is this post stupid? Are you wondering why you even clicked on it? It's hard for me to say because I think the next 2 to 4 years will actually be Gilmore's prime and I'm expecting the Pats to get the very best from him and I strongly believe in the fact that he will be a pro bowl player for them. If I had to choose a player that I appreciated more and a player who wasn't a quitter for the Bills then I would go with Clements. I hated to see Clements go and I would have hated to see Gilmore stay. But at the end of the day I would bet Gilmore will have the better career before it's said and done with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Ill take Clements just because of tackling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Clements..... Good Lord Brady has been around for way too long. That looks like a game broadcast in the 90's with that old CBS score graphic and the old 90's unifroms. And we've gone through two uniform changes since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Byrd was great but Booker Edgerson was great too. Didn't get as much attention. Seen them all. Byrd, James, Clements, Winfield, Edgerson my top 5. Gilmore right behind them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Gilmore will be a much better player on his next contract than Clements was when he left. Some of that's coaching, but a lot of it is talent. The psychology of this thread is humorous to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Gilmore will be a much better player on his next contract than Clements was when he left. Some of that's coaching, but a lot of it is talent. The psychology of this thread is humorous to say the least. Humorous is thinking you can predict the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I'll go with Robert James as best ever for the Bills BB had 40 career INT's, all as a Bill. Not likely to be surpassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Neither. Give me Antoine Winfield. He is one player that the Bills should have kept. + 1,000,000 But if I had to pick one I would go with Nate CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Clements I don't even think it's an argument. Far to often Gilmore plays without passion and shys from contact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 This is a tough call for me. I am going to say Clements. He seemed to give an overall better effort. What do you think? Is this post stupid? Are you wondering why you even clicked on it? Clements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Winfield > Clements > Gilmore I like CBs who can hit and come up in run support. Winfield was a missile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Just another thread for the Gilmore haters to hate in. They are all wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Clements over Gilmore. Robert James over EVERYONE else. One of the best players, regardless of position, that ever laced them up. The majority of people on this board were not born when he played. He was a complete corner and a gem. Knee injuries during his era prior to today's medical standards were so devastating. One of my favorite players of all time was Tom Sestak. His style of play in the older era was actually very modern and would have translated to this era's style of lineman play. http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2012/4/3/2922575/buffalo-bills-afl-tom-sestak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I saw them both as a long time season ticket holder. Clemens when he was playing hard was far better than Gilmore. Clemens, however, occasionally took a few games off and disappeared. Still, given the choice, I would take Nate in his prime over Gilmore......Nate was a better ball hawk......by far, Nate was a better tackler......cover capability was equivalent. Interesting thread...theoretical, but interesting. And, I actually had an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Good point about Antoine Winfield..he was a little guy but hit hard. I cant remember his cover skills. Is my memory bad? I think I recall Antoine struggled with coverage his first couple years with the Bills but hit people like a sledgehammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 The majority of people on this board were not born when he played. He was a complete corner and a gem. Knee injuries during his era prior to today's medical standards were so devastating. One of my favorite players of all time was Tom Sestak. His style of play in the older era was actually very modern and would have translated to this era's style of lineman play. http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2012/4/3/2922575/buffalo-bills-afl-tom-sestak Yeah, Sestak was a great player. Up there with the Bob Lillys and Merlin Olsens of his day for sure. As for James, he was a "shut down corner" before anyone knew what that was. Routinely shut out every WR he went up against. From Warfield to Beletnikoff to Alworth to Maynard and any other HOF receiver in between, he simply took them out of the game. Just a great athlete all around. He would have been a first ballot HOFer if not for that knee injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) I was a big fan of each guy, but for me, it's Gilmore Clements definitely had better ball skills, but Gilmore was a stickier coverage guy. I also didn't like that Clements would dance after allowing a 15-yard completion for a 1st down. Ready for me to really ruffle some feathers? I'd take Jabari Greer over any of them. greer at his absolute peak was as good as anyone in the league (saints super bowl run). his ability to mirror guys routes step for step with no wasted footwork was very impressive for a stretch there. in the greer vs clements -- i think theres some absence makes the heart grow fonder with clements. gilmore did us "wrong" more recently. Edited March 30, 2017 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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