pbanach Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 "For its first overall selection, the Bills need a day one starter at a thinner position like S/CB/LB or WR that can make an impact as soon as he lands. The defense could use some help after losing 3/4 of its secondary and with receivers Bob Woods and Flash Goodwin going going back back to Cali Cali, there’s a void at that position too." http://nysportsbiz.com/2017/03/14/3-reasons-bills-shouldnt-use-10th-pick-on-alabama-te-o-j-howard/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 The Bills won't use it on a TE. This was never an issue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 The Bills won't use it on a TE. This was never an issue... Haha yeah I definitely agree here, Buffalo hasn't valued that position or used the TE correctly since Jay Riemersma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Go away troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I like Tyrod, but spending the 10th pick on any pass catcher is a mistake. draft for the offensive and defensive lines instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Go away troll me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1. We already have Charles Clay. 2. We don't utilize Charles Clay. 3. This draft is unbelievably deep at the Tight End position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffuct Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 dude could be one of the best tight ends ever. mistake to pass on if still available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 O.J. is a mismatch as a 6' 6", 245 lb. receiver. 4.51 in 40. Good blocker at college level. A lot of athleticism. Run a two tight end set with Clay, Watkins, Shady and another WR to be determined later could be formidable. Considering the back problems that Clay has had in the past, O J might be a consideration. I would still consider a CB/ Safety to be a higher priority, but OJ would not be a horrible choice. If a real good CB could be found in round 2, then I could see grabbing a potential elite TE at 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I like the prospects of Logan thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I'm just wondering why if OJ Howard is such a freak and mismatch, why didn't he have better college production. He was pretty average in terms of production in college. i think he will be a very marginal TE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offsides#76FredSmerlas Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I am going to choose to go with the experts to make this decision. If they feel his value is that incredible and he can make a huge difference in our offense becoming better then do it. I heard he was an outstanding pass blocker and receiver so I won't cry over it if they grab this guy in round 1. Someone on here said the draft is deep on tight ends so don't grab 1 in the first round but from what the NFL scouts are saying it is a deep draft at a lot of positions so that excuse needs to be thrown out. I think we are going wide receiver in round 1 but again all I care about is that the Bills get it right and we won't know that until the games begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 ....too much already invested in the TE spot......besides TT needs bi-focals to find 'em open already............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 me? no. the pbanana dude. he comes here to plug his site and articles. if it means so much to him to generate discussion he would do so by contributing here. instead he is a nitwit who wants us to leave this site to make him someone and give him a name with his click bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 no. the pbanana dude. he comes here to plug his site and articles. if it means so much to him to generate discussion he would do so by contributing here. instead he is a nitwit who wants us to leave this site to make him someone and give him a name with his click bait. Ohhh ok ok lmao I was like what is going on! Gotcha! thanks for the heads up brother haha! GO BILLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I think TT could find a 6'6" WR over the middle. Remember Jalen Hurts was a freshman QB for Alabama who didn't need to throw a lot to win. OJ could be very intriguing prospect for the Bills at 10. Potential high ceiling prospect. Would be a "safe pick" at 10 if he is even there at 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 The thing I don't like about OJ Howard is that there are questions about his commitment to football and love of the game. That's one trait that I just can't overlook in a prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 The thing I don't like about OJ Howard is that there are questions about his commitment to football and love of the game. That's one trait that I just can't overlook in a prospect. I totally agree with that.....drafted players should be "football players" and not athletes or it will show later on What is interesting is Logan Thomas comps are almost all better then Howard as a athlete.....and was the top TE coming out of high school ....who switched to QB (which is the money maker position) This leads me to believe that it wasnt because he couldnt play TE but because he COULD play qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) We were inches away from taking Eric Ebron in the draft that we traded up to take Sammy Watkins in at a similar position in draft spot. If he is there he will be the pick Edited March 14, 2017 by Protocal69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 You couldn't put this in the other OJ Howard thread? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 You couldn't put this in the other OJ Howard thread? Why? change topic title to.....Who's NOT good with OJ Howard at 10?.....(laffin) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 You couldn't put this in the other OJ Howard thread? Why? Because he owns the website and is click hunting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering bills fan Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I like Tyrod, but spending the 10th pick on any pass catcher is a mistake. draft for the offensive and defensive lines instead I agree with the philosophy of building a team from the lines out, but the offensive and defensive lines are two of the Bills strongest units. I would go WR with #1 and secondary with picks #2 and #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 You couldn't put this in the other OJ Howard thread? Why? he's an asshat wanting clicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 we will NEVER get the QB of the future if you keep putting it off today having said that we need a stud WR, RT, QB & DB with our first round pick..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I agree with the philosophy of building a team from the lines out, but the offensive and defensive lines are two of the Bills strongest units. I would go WR with #1 and secondary with picks #2 and #3. I generally agree with those positions in some order. I don't think line value is there at 10, unless something whacky happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I like Tyrod, but spending the 10th pick on any pass catcher is a mistake. draft for the offensive and defensive lines instead With Tyrod we should just fill the team with FBs that way blocking for Tyrod running around will come easy and our WRs won't be playing hurt all the time. we will NEVER get the QB of the future if you keep putting it off today having said that we need a stud WR, RT, QB & DB with our first round pick..... I don't expect a stud at QB till Whaley is gone.2019 can't come soon enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 "For its first overall selection, the Bills need a day one starter at a thinner position like S/CB/LB or WR that can make an impact as soon as he lands. The defense could use some help after losing 3/4 of its secondary and with receivers Bob Woods and Flash Goodwin going going back back to Cali Cali, there’s a void at that position too."[/size] http://nysportsbiz.com/2017/03/14/3-reasons-bills-shouldnt-use-10th-pick-on-alabama-te-o-j-howard/ I agree with you here. He could really help IMO even more than a Davis or Wiliams, but we need more help on D! The other team in New England* just picked up a few new shiny toys and we need to counter that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 The thing I don't like about OJ Howard is that there are questions about his commitment to football and love of the game. That's one trait that I just can't overlook in a prospect.Agreed, but, especially in a top half of the first round pick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Any relation to Simpson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Book on O.J. Howard: Most complete TE prospect in 10 years http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000793010/article/book-on-oj-howard-most-complete-te-prospect-in-10-years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 #6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 It will be interesting to see how the new coaching staff evaluates a player like Logan. If Logan can make the transition from QB to TE and at least get on the field this year, he could certainly be an asset on offense. Definitely a big question mark at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Another interesting aspect of OJ is that he is the type of player teams become enamored with. If Buffalo shows interest in him but let's it be known they would rather trade down, a team like the Giants might see the need to trade giving Buffalo extra picks which they definitely could use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 McShay had him going to Jax at #4 last I looked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 1. We already have Charles Clay. 2. We don't utilize Charles Clay. 3. This draft is unbelievably deep at the Tight End position. New OC New OC You are correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 1. Charles Clay 2. Charles Clay 3.Charles Clay If he is available at 10th pick trade down and get extra picks, some team will bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogham26 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 i think he is the best pass catcher in the draft. he will have a better career than any of the wrs imo so i hope they take him at 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 OJ ran a better 40 time than Mike Williams. Maybe, not the most important stat but since a number of fans want a WR in the first, it is interesting that OJ is a bigger, faster, better blocking Mike Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 You dont draft a TE in the first let alone top ten. OJ ran a better 40 time than Mike Williams. Maybe, not the most important stat but since a number of fans want a WR in the first, it is interesting that OJ is a bigger, faster, better blocking Mike Williams. 1) No he didnt 2) Straight line speed in shorts is not how you measure game speed. When, if ever do players run in a straight line for 40 yards? 3) And since when does ability and production go to the way side for an effin 40 yard dash time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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