Pbomb Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Cool storyexactly, only in second day of fa and the draft still ahead which is very deep in cb and safety. Glad we didnt pay gilmore $15 mil a year and while i liked aw, he barely played the last two years and would be a huge risk again this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) Yes, you actually need to play to be better...O i got it. OBD always hits gold in your eyes Fact is Secondary is worse ALOT worse   Not tell me something like UFa isnt over or still have the draft Edited March 10, 2017 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Hyde might just be an upgrade over AW. Gilmore is not a top 5 CB. While he was good,he didn't deserve 14mil a year.We have the draft to replace him,and if we get one that can actually tackle,it'll be yet another upgrade...imo. We don't necessarily need another "lock down" corner to play in a new zone scheme. It'll be rough to start a rookie,but we'll be ok,I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) gilmore was not elite, no great loss. williams was one hit away from ending his career, he should retire.anyone who can come to any conclusion of fail or succeed at this juncture is nothing more than speculation on their part. Â when the roster is set, then one can put a fair assessment on the secondary. Edited March 10, 2017 by DaBillsFanSince1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 At least it's a deep draft for DBs and WRs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Hyde might just be an upgrade over AW. Gilmore is not a top 5 CB. While he was good,he didn't deserve 14mil a year.We have the draft to replace him,and if we get one that can actually tackle,it'll be yet another upgrade...imo. We don't necessarily need another "lock down" corner to play in a new zone scheme. It'll be rough to start a rookie,but we'll be ok,I think Might want to go read about Hyde and his lack of tackling and then reas how Darby has looked lost in Zone Concepts in FSU gilmore was not elite, no great loss. williams was one hit away from ending his career, he should retire.anyone who can come to any conclusion of fail or succeed at this juncture is nothing more than speculation on their part. Â when the roster is set, then one could put a fair assessment on the secondary. Multiple Time SB champs disagree with your assessment on Gilmore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Ever watch him in FSU in Zone coverage? Just laughable Well here's what his draft profile says. I'm guessing all the film, not broadcast view from your TV, but the film you watched you disagree? Â Strengths Former high school track star with "world-class speed." Can change directions suddenly with few false steps. Has requisite body control to handle the strain of press-man coverage. Easy swivel to his hips with ability to open, run and hit top speed quickly. Plays with instincts and awareness. Ready to come off his man to overlap and contest a catch or make a tackle. Digests combo routes and helps teammates lineup before snap. Recognizes route development and makes early break on throws. Ball-tracker with excellent timing to high-point and disrupt the catch. Lack of on-ball production tied to quarterbacks avoiding him. Technically proficient with hand usage in press and maintains feel for receiver. Constricts throwing windows in zone coverage. Steps downhill and attacks against the run. Â http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/ronald-darby?id=2552689 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Appears? It is a tire fire  However be ready to be flamed. The Rose color glasses of "no matter who the Bills sign it is an awesome signing" are out in full force last two days or "no matter who the Bills sign it is an awful signing" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Gilmore is a loss but that happens in FA. Safety is as it was last year as regards talent level. Draft is deep for DBs so relax and see where they are when the draft is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Hyde might just be an upgrade over AW. Gilmore is not a top 5 CB. While he was good,he didn't deserve 14mil a year.We have the draft to replace him,and if we get one that can actually tackle,it'll be yet another upgrade...imo. We don't necessarily need another "lock down" corner to play in a new zone scheme. It'll be rough to start a rookie,but we'll be ok,I think  I loooooove seeing this. hahah the best team, a coaching staff in the NFL believes he does. I'll go with their perspective over anyone's on this board.  we will miss Gilmore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 We could wait for the season to see what our roster is going to be, but what fun is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Hyde is versatile. Tackling may need improving, but AW certainly wasn't a tackling machine either.And I said nothing about Darby,just that we can replace Gilmore in the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 gilmore was not elite, no great loss. williams was one hit away from ending his career, he should retire.anyone who can come to any conclusion of fail or succeed at this juncture is nothing more than speculation on their part. Â when the roster is set, then one can put a fair assessment on the secondary. Losing Gilmore is a big loss.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Well here's what his draft profile says. I'm guessing all the film, not broadcast view from your TV, but the film you watched you disagree? Â Strengths Former high school track star with "world-class speed." Can change directions suddenly with few false steps. Has requisite body control to handle the strain of press-man coverage. Easy swivel to his hips with ability to open, run and hit top speed quickly. Plays with instincts and awareness. Ready to come off his man to overlap and contest a catch or make a tackle. Digests combo routes and helps teammates lineup before snap. Recognizes route development and makes early break on throws. Ball-tracker with excellent timing to high-point and disrupt the catch. Lack of on-ball production tied to quarterbacks avoiding him. Technically proficient with hand usage in press and maintains feel for receiver. Constricts throwing windows in zone coverage. Steps downhill and attacks against the run. Â http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/ronald-darby?id=2552689 Does FSU run only zone coverage? I find it pretty odd that Bobby would remember how well Darby played in a particular coverage, Darby was a surprise pick and you were watching his tendencies in zone? Common man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Â I loooooove seeing this. hahah the best team, a coaching staff in the NFL believes he does. I'll go with their perspective over anyone's on this board. Â we will miss Gilmore. fair enough. My point tho is,we didn't need his skill set at that price to run a zone scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 AW, IF HEALTHY, is better than Hyde from what I can gather, but Hyde rarely misses games and as the saying goes, the best ability is availability  we'll add a CB in the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Well here's what his draft profile says. I'm guessing all the film, not broadcast view from your TV, but the film you watched you disagree? Â Strengths Former high school track star with "world-class speed." Can change directions suddenly with few false steps. Has requisite body control to handle the strain of press-man coverage. Easy swivel to his hips with ability to open, run and hit top speed quickly. Plays with instincts and awareness. Ready to come off his man to overlap and contest a catch or make a tackle. Digests combo routes and helps teammates lineup before snap. Recognizes route development and makes early break on throws. Ball-tracker with excellent timing to high-point and disrupt the catch. Lack of on-ball production tied to quarterbacks avoiding him. Technically proficient with hand usage in press and maintains feel for receiver. Constricts throwing windows in zone coverage. Steps downhill and attacks against the run. Â http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/ronald-darby?id=2552689 I watched him LIVE. He gets lost when eyes go in backfield. Which is exactly why he has Ball tracking Problems. Â He will struggle in zone concepts because he gets lost when eyes go in backfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Also,we've seen the Pats overpay for some of our other FA's as well. Was anybody here willing to give Hogan that kind of money? At that price,it didn't fit our needs or scheme. Neither did Gilmore's price.just my opinion of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Does FSU run only zone coverage? I find it pretty odd that Bobby would remember how well Darby played in a particular coverage, Darby was a surprise pick and you were watching his tendencies in zone? Common man Of course you find it odd. Probably never went and watched the college team by were you were at once in your life. And or noone can know anything right. We are all just sheep fans. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I think Flowers, Verner, Wright, and Claiborne are all still available FAs. Not that they are the press man guy Gilmore is, but I think any of them would make me feel much better about our CB situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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