GunnerBill Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I think .500 is probably the worst position to be in. Yes... but we have GMs who have overseen much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Since you're all there already, there is no valid evidence of DW not liking TT... Let alone evidence of a rift between DW and the coaching staff...take away the speculation articles and this stuff came from thin air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Buscaglia is discussing this on twitter now. It is really not surprising-- if you listened to McDermott's press conference at the Combine. He said there was still not a decision on the QB, and that there was a "healthy" debate re: players. Everyone knows Whaley wants Taylor gone-- so it is easy to infer that McDermott wants to keep him. And seeing Brandon's name (along with Overdorf) mentioned in player discussions is sickening (if true). Bottom line is as it was before-- the Bills needed to clean house. Ryan was only the tip of the iceberg named "Dysfunction"--- aka, Buffalo Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 .500 over the 3 seasons that have followed full Whaley offseasons. Great? No. Terrible? No. Not making the playoffs is a bad year.......which is all he's done since he got here..........that's what I mean by losing. He's a thoroughly average talent evaluator whose had more than average resources at his disposal during his tenure as GM. And still, he doesn't control his destiny.........he is both dragged down by a bad HC in Rex and propped up by Rex decision to bring in Taylor. If not for Taylor, without question Whaley would have been fired by now.........his inability to identify QB talent would have been magnified greatly. He is basically a bridge GM. Nothing but NOT being fired in the next 2 years would surprise me.........fired after draft........fired after next season..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Not making the playoffs is a bad year.......which is all he's done since he got here..........that's what I mean by losing. He's a thoroughly average talent evaluator whose had more than average resources at his disposal during his tenure as GM. And still, he doesn't control his destiny.........he is both dragged down by a bad HC in Rex and propped up by Rex decision to bring in Taylor. If not for Taylor, without question Whaley would have been fired by now.........his inability to identify QB talent would have been magnified greatly. He is basically a bridge GM. Nothing but NOT being fired in the next 2 years would surprise me.........fired after draft........fired after next season..... I'm not some Whaley superfan. I just think when you have a fanbase split between tear down and reload the GM can't win. Whichever he does there is half the fan base who wants the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Many, many coaches feel the scheme, when executed properly, is more important than the talent. Coaches may be realists that have an average player is "good enough" at certain positions. Very few front offices have the balls to get rid of an average QB in an effort to get an elite one, so I do give the Bills some credit for at least considering "going big or going home". I think the Seattle route (lots of elite players, simple scheme) is still the best way to go. Exactly and Coach Carroll's fingerprints are all over this franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I believe Russ Brandon and Whaley should have been let go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I'm not some Whaley superfan. I just think when you have a fanbase split between tear down and reload the GM can't win. Whichever he does there is half the fan base who wants the opposite. Right.......that's where he is.......he's earned that status. But he CAN WIN..........by winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I'm not some Whaley superfan. I just think when you have a fanbase split between tear down and reload the GM can't win. Whichever he does there is half the fan base who wants the opposite. How about just winning? Wouldn't that get the fanbase on board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 It's hard to place much stock in anything with LaCanfora's name in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 It's hard to place much stock in anything with LaCanfora's name in it Glad you are here Indy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Buffalo's latest Tweet @buffalobills Why all the DeShaun Watson hype? The Clemson QB's teammates explain at the #NFLCombine: bufbills.co/l3MiPh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Right.......that's where he is.......he's earned that status. But he CAN WIN..........by winning. It really is just as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 First of all, yes, JLC is a horrific shill and crappy reporter. Is it even remotely plausible that Whaley hired a head coach with whom he disagreed on the Taylor situation? I'm not the biggest Whaley fan, but I'm living in the real world here. Who says Whaley hired the coach? Russ Brandon still making personnel decisions!! http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bills-coaches-execs-remain-split-on-picking-up-tyrod-taylors-30m-option/ INDIANAPOLIS -- The Buffalo Bills are about a week away from another potential franchise-altering decision at quarterback, and it’s causing considerable consternation within the organization. League sources say a chasm remains between coaches and the front office whether to execute a $30M option on the promising-but-unproven quarterback. As I reported in December, Buffalo’s decision makers -- general manager Doug Whaley, senior VP of football administration Jim Overdorf and team president Russ Brandon -- decided they didn’t want to pay Taylor in 2017. They wanted Taylor out as starter late in last season (he was shut down for Week 17 once owner Terry Pegula fired coach Rex Ryan), and that has not changed. The front office still feels the current salary structure they negotiated themselves a year ago -- instead of a more standard year-to-year, pay-as-you-go format -- doesn’t make sense, thus their interest in veteran QB options like Tony Romo and Brian Hoyer. However, new coach Sean McDermott and Pegula have become close. McDermott and his staff are not convinced they will find an upgrade over Taylor and see no problem with paying Taylor $17M a year, the sources say. So, mere months into Buffalo’s latest regime change, they are at another crossroads of their own making (choosing this contract structure for Taylor’s extension was puzzling from the start). While I wouldn’t underestimate how highly the owner thinks of his new coach, picking up a $30M option is no small thing for even the richest men to consider. And the front-office core Pegula has relied upon for years remains firmly in the don’t-pick-up-the-option camp. In the meantime, the Bills continue to monitor the veteran QB market, meeting with agents to gauge price points of free-agent options. Some in that building remain intrigued by the prospect of trading for Romo, though the feasibility is under question and I’ve heard Buffalo is not Romo’s favored locale. They’ll have to decide whether Taylor’s option is the safest, most prudent route. One thing is for certain -- this coaching staff has no qualms about working with him and would prefer to do so. And Taylor hits the open market I have no doubt he would fare quite well. This reeks of a Berchtold leak. What better way to get back at brandon for dumping him. I imagine the guy who paid $1.4B for the franchise would be none too happy to hear that one of his business employees is deciding the fate of the most important position in the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud420 Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 GM should make decision. Doug obviously doesnt want Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Not making the playoffs is a bad year.......which is all he's done since he got here..........that's what I mean by losing. He's a thoroughly average talent evaluator whose had more than average resources at his disposal during his tenure as GM. And still, he doesn't control his destiny.........he is both dragged down by a bad HC in Rex and propped up by Rex decision to bring in Taylor. If not for Taylor, without question Whaley would have been fired by now.........his inability to identify QB talent would have been magnified greatly. He is basically a bridge GM. Nothing but NOT being fired in the next 2 years would surprise me.........fired after draft........fired after next season..... This made me laugh. Who says Whaley hired the coach? This reeks of a Berchtold leak. What better way to get back at brandon for dumping him. I imagine the guy who paid $1.4B for the franchise would be none too happy to hear that one of his business employees is deciding the fate of the most important position in the franchise. It's something. Kinda weird the "whole crew" was listed as the opposition party. A bit of a hedge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Does anyone understand who is making the decisions at One Bills Drive? This collaboration stuff has been going on since Donahoe left and it makes talking about Bills decisions impossible to discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellDopeland Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 LaConfora is a fountain of useless drivel. That being said- this story, whilst considering the dubious source, would not be all that implausible. Whaley can't seem to get along with anyone, especially the head coach (Saint Doug, Rex). Apparently Whaley is a Napoleonic little snake that spends more time engaging in territorial pissing contests than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 GM should make decision. Doug obviously doesnt want Tyrod. In this special case the new Head Coach should make the decision on Tyrod and the GM should be understanding of that. If he's not then he should be fired after the Draft. (He should be fired anyway because he stinks at his job). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 La Canfora has been absolutely awful. No two ways about it. That being said, I don't want a room full of agreeing higher ups. Mcdermott touched on that sentiment the other day. However, there needs to be some sort of semblance with what is going to be done at the single most important position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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