r00tabaga Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Ivan Schnitzel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koufax Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 And is a lateral move and requires permission. Â But it is relatively uncommon for a team to choose to block a "promotion" lateral move, and instead let their assistants who are not coordinators interview for coordinator position. Not sure on the full range and history of these, but blocking a promotion even when the NFL considers it officially lateral is bad interpersonal mojo. Â That said, with a rookie defensive HC, and an uncertain situation at QB, I think our OC hire is among our more important, and really hope for the certainty that comes with someone with experience with the role, or as a really top notch QB coach right on the cusp. Roman/Lynn both failed to develop Tyrod as a pocket passer, and while they utilized our run game and Tyrod's elusiveness, I think the failure to include accurate mid range between the numbers passes in our attack made us vulnerable to many situations and defensive alignments. I'm looking for a little genius and chess player savvy in our OC, even when the final play calling can be simple and predictable 80% of the time. I'm not sure who that could be right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanOverChin Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I think it will be Norv Turner. That would give us two former NFL HCs as our coordinators. Â Turner is one of the best offensive minds in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Â Â Teams typically don't block move ups because no one would want to work for them. Yet it does every year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 But thats the thing, they wouldnt be moving up. Theyre already OC's  Andy Reid still calls the plays. I don't see him blocking anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Yep. KC has two OCs and big Andy still calls the plays. If one of them got the call I think he would let them go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Â But it is relatively uncommon for a team to choose to block a "promotion" lateral move, and instead let their assistants who are not coordinators interview for coordinator position. Not sure on the full range and history of these, but blocking a promotion even when the NFL considers it officially lateral is bad interpersonal mojo. Â That said, with a rookie defensive HC, and an uncertain situation at QB, I think our OC hire is among our more important, and really hope for the certainty that comes with someone with experience with the role, or as a really top notch QB coach right on the cusp. Roman/Lynn both failed to develop Tyrod as a pocket passer, and while they utilized our run game and Tyrod's elusiveness, I think the failure to include accurate mid range between the numbers passes in our attack made us vulnerable to many situations and defensive alignments. I'm looking for a little genius and chess player savvy in our OC, even when the final play calling can be simple and predictable 80% of the time. I'm not sure who that could be right now. Just happened in Philly. Â HC is gonna want that guy to be put in best possible position specially if it is not a HC spot. Even then they tend to give very strong advice on the best and worst HC spots to take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Â Andy Reid still calls the plays. I don't see him blocking anyone. Actually, the play calling in KC is shared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) I wonder if they would think of naming Scott Turner(QB coach of Vikings the last 3 years/Norv's son) as the OC, with Norv Turner serving in a senior offensive assistant role. Scott's promotion wouldn't completely unfounded either as many people credit him with the selection and development of Teddy Bridgewater. Â He also coached with McDermott with Carolina 2011-12. Edited January 13, 2017 by BrooklynBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) I wonder if they would think of naming Scott Turner(QB coach of Vikings the last 3 years/Norv's son) as the OC, with Norv Turner serving in a senior offensive assistant role. Scott's promotion wouldn't completely unfounded either as many people credit him with the selection and development of Teddy Bridgewater. Â He also coached with McDermott with Carolina 2011-12. Not really directed to you specifically but ive heard about the "development" of Teddy elsewhere. For a pure pocket passer, Teddy hasnt done anything in the passing game. 3200yds and 14td's with zero dual threat ability? I dont see development there from year 1. Edited January 13, 2017 by bobobonators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 my method of yelling "throw the !@#$ing ball!" as TT held it for 4 seconds and "went through his professions" seems like it would be helpful OMG (sorry couldn't resist) that's my method! Maybe we could be co-oc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I wonder if they would think of naming Scott Turner(QB coach of Vikings the last 3 years/Norv's son) as the OC, with Norv Turner serving in a senior offensive assistant role. Scott's promotion wouldn't completely unfounded either as many people credit him with the selection and development of Teddy Bridgewater. Â He also coached with McDermott with Carolina 2011-12. This may be something I could get on board with. Although I admittedly don't know a whole lot about Scott Turner. If ST has a solid reputation from people who know these things and have worked with him, and he's a young, sharp minded offensive up and comer, having Norv around could help. I just don't want Norv to run the show. Â Chris Palmer may be the guy to run the offense, only if TT is brought back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 @TheBillsWire 4 best options for Buffalo Bills HC Sean McDermott to hire as OC #GoBills READ MORE: http://usat.ly/2iQ6u2N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 What i would do is call up Olsen (OC in Oak the year they drafted Carr) Â 1st question how much input did you have into The drafting of Carr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I wonder if they would think of naming Scott Turner(QB coach of Vikings the last 3 years/Norv's son) as the OC, with Norv Turner serving in a senior offensive assistant role. Scott's promotion wouldn't completely unfounded either as many people credit him with the selection and development of Teddy Bridgewater. Â He also coached with McDermott with Carolina 2011-12. Scott got fired, http://sports.yahoo.com/news/vikings-fire-quarterback-coach-scott-101256213.html, so he's available. Matt Nagy of KC/formerly Philly sounds interesting as he could be an up and coming guys and he has a relationship with Nick Foles who might be a good bridge QB for the Bills while we develop Cardale or a QB we draft this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I'd say it is not the best policy to have a rep for blocking people. Keep in mind that sometimes these guys want to be blocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 What i would do is call up Olsen (OC in Oak the year they drafted Carr) Â 1st question how much input did you have into The drafting of Carr I would be in favor of Olson. I mentioned it elsewhere too. Hes worked with Brees in college. Made something of Kitna and made something of Freeman. Also look what he did with Bortles last year. Â My biggest concern with him is he better suited as a QB coach than an OC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Andy Reid usually lets his guys move up. and Andy has a strong relationship with our running game coordinator/O-line coach and McDermott so think he'd be more willing to let Nagy come here than elsewhere. I would be in favor of Olson. I mentioned it elsewhere too. Hes worked with Brees in college. Made something of Kitna and made something of Freeman. Also look what he did with Bortles last year. Â My biggest concern with him is he better suited as a QB coach than an OC? Just as long as we hire a separate OC and QB coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Art Briles! Make it happen. 1 read for Tyrod (or rookie) or run it. Doesn't get any easier than that Thats 2 votes for Art Briles! Ivan Schnitzel Is he related to veener? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Kromer would be an awful choice imo. Poor man's Greg Roman. It would be fine if we had an offensive coach but we don't. We need someone who can work with young quarterbacks and set up a passing game that gets the most out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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