Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) No question NRC blew it. Kelso said he used the wrong technique and should have shaded inside instead of outside. I'm just saying that the Bills formation presnap gave Marcia an easy read. And NRC knew exactly where the ball was going pre snap. If I knew the play I could have told you where the ball was going. He cant play his coverage like that knowing he had nothing behind him. He jumped the route because he knew the ball was coming and thought he could make a play, only problem is he jumped the wrong route. Its just a poor play in a 14-10 game. Edited October 31, 2016 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Meeks left to double Edleman on a shallow route.thats what the replay showed, Meeks biting in Edelman which left no support deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 disgusting to watch Mrs Coleman hanging off Gronk's thigh as he rode her into the end zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) How in the heck did Robey end up in single coverage with Gronk in the middle of the field on that touchdown I mean....I know Brady might be the best ever.....but how does that even happen Well they had a single high safety, so if you're in coverage you would think that the last place you could get beat is deep down the middle. Probably just bad recognition by the safety to get sucked up onto one of the underneath routes. Edited November 1, 2016 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Well they had a single high safety, so if you're in coverage you would think that the last place you could get beat is deep down the middle. Probably just bad recognition by the safety to get sucked up onto one of the underneath routes. The check was to man coverage. NRC got beat, plain and simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Meeks left to double Edleman on a shallow route. Correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Well they had a single high safety, so if you're in coverage you would think that the last place you could get beat is deep down the middle. Probably just bad recognition by the safety to get sucked up onto one of the underneath routes. A single high safety only 10 yds off the LOS? That's the part I don't get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 See the clip below--when NE went empty, Buffalo checked to RAT, which is man-up I'm willing to bet on it. So you're saying Belichick found this on the internet too and therefore knew how to get Robey on gronk, which is like the Nepal basketball team playing team USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Gronk is a mimatch either way but running a seam route against a DB minimizes the mismatch. Gronk really isn't using his size advantage unlike the speed advantage he used to beat Spikes on the TE wheel route. Robey-Coleman just blew the coverage. He let Gronk run right past him. It is just poor coverage whether it was against Gronk or a WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 So you're saying Belichick found this on the internet too and therefore knew how to get Robey on gronk, which is like the Nepal basketball team playing team USA. Nope I'm saying that Brady saw the back 7 make a RAT check earlier in the game and knew it when he saw it a second time. I mean, I saw it from the stands, and I'm hardly a genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) A nickelback should be able to cover a tight end one on one. I'm beginning to think this Gronkowski is some kind of freakish athlete. Lol...Gilmore couldn't cover him one on one either.. Let's see...best Tight End in the history of the NFL against a pair of good CB's... I like the best TE to ever play the game's chances... Edited November 1, 2016 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 A nickelback should be able to cover a tight end one on one. I'm beginning to think this Gronkowski is some kind of freakish athlete. It is a little late in Gronk's career for our team to be figuring this out! He's already on his way to rewriting the TE recordbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 It looked like a little kid trying to cover his big brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Meeks left to double Edleman on a shallow route. Meeks is ahead of Duke Williams now it seems...pretty scary. Williams supposedly had a great camp but hasn't been playing much lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Meeks is ahead of Duke Williams now it seems...pretty scary. Williams supposedly had a great camp but hasn't been playing much lately. They're both horrendous football players and Blanton is even worse. What bugs me about Williams is that he spends his time goofing around in reality TV shows instead of working on his craft. Of all of the issues with Rex, the fact that he's a soft "players coach" irks me the most. He lets a lot of buffoonery go on in that locker room. These players are just not focused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Nope I'm saying that Brady saw the back 7 make a RAT check earlier in the game and knew it when he saw it a second time. I mean, I saw it from the stands, and I'm hardly a genius On a relative TBD scale you are closer than you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I think the idea there is that with Nicoles quickness and anticipation hes supposed to knock the ball down. With Bradys ability to throw into to perfect window, it did not work. Nobody wants Robey trying to tackle Gronk Have to agree on Brady's throw - couldn't have been better. Hate to admit it, but he was sharp Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) Here's the play showing the pre-snap check... https://twitter.com/Cover1Bills/status/793476867605032960 As I said, Preston Brown sees James White clear out wide leaving the backfield empty, and checks RAT. It gets communicated to every layer of the defense, and from there it's straight man coverage in the secondary with the LBs zoning the interior to cover the middle hook patterns. Edited November 1, 2016 by thebandit27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 And then they make the same !@#$ing check later in the game?!?!?!?!? https://twitter.com/Cover1Bills/status/793488896034217985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Here's the play showing the pre-snap check... https://twitter.com/Cover1Bills/status/793476867605032960 As I said, Preston Brown sees James White clear out wide leaving the backfield empty, and checks RAT. It gets communicated to every layer of the defense, and from there it's straight man coverage in the secondary with the LBs zoning the interior to cover the middle hook patterns. Thanks for that. Bad play. Higher awareness from the safety could have made a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Thanks for that. Bad play. Higher awareness from the safety could have made a difference. Perhaps, but only if he abandoned his responsibility on the play. The safety that I think you're referring to is Blanton, but as soon as the check happens, his responsibility is man coverage on Edelman. It looks like Preston has man coverage on Edelman, but that's only because his zone drop requires him to cover the middle hook route--Blanton actually has Edelman, which is why he drove to the outside shoulder when Edelman broke his route outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 That was bad, but even worse, they had just a single LB on him later in the game. I think it was the one were Gronk actually made a great catch but was OB, the LB might have been Spikes who was a good 5 yards behind him! I was at the game and yes, it was Spikes! I couldn't believe it. Spikes covering Gronk?!?! I mean, I like the guy, but coverage is not his forte! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Did we lose the guy leading the league in sacks on a punt coverage injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 I was at the game and yes, it was Spikes! I couldn't believe it. Spikes covering Gronk?!?! I mean, I like the guy, but coverage is not his forte! That drove me insane too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) thats what the replay showed, Meeks biting in Edelman which left no support deep. Yes that is what happened... Whether man was called or not, there were 2 men covering Edelman because of Meeks biting underneath on him. He would have been available to help deep middle with Gronk, which explains NRC playing leverage from the wrong side. NRC just didn't throw his hands up in the air like Gilmore had earlier when Meeks (or whoever that safety was there ) blew help coverage. Edited November 2, 2016 by 34-78-83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Yes that is what happened... Whether man was called or not, there were 2 men covering Edelman because of Meeks biting underneath on him. He would have been available to help deep middle with Gronk, which explains NRC playing leverage from the wrong side. NRC just didn't throw his hands up in the air like Gilmore had earlier when Meeks (or whoever that safety was there ) blew help coverage. I know it looks that way, but looks--in this case--are deceiving. I posted the coverage, which started as a Cloud call. When White clears the backfield, they checked RAT (which is man coverage in the secondary with the LBs dropping into the medium zones). It was actually Blanton, not Meeks, and he didn't bite on anything. He was in man coverage on Edelman; it looks like he's doubling him because Zach's zone drop takes him into the path of Edelman's inside shoulder, but there's a reason that Zach stays square to the QB and doesn't chase Edelman outside. Blanton had his responsibilities correct--actually, everyone did. Bad protocol to check to man there--blame goes to the coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) The check was to man coverage. NRC got beat, plain and simple Your right. Just re-watched the clip. It's man. Not sure why they would do that. It's a mismatch for Gronk no matter who's on him basically. Edited November 2, 2016 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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