Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Oh and black people that i know would call Kolin very light skinned. Actually that's one of the ironies, Kaep has certainly been dissed as "too white" by some black folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Kaepernick was downright dreadful in Friday night's preseason game, looking entirely uncomfortable in new coach Chip Kelly's offense. If the 49ers aren't going to start Kaepernick, they have three options -- trade him, pay him $12 million not to play, or grant Kaepernick his release. If the 49ers opt to keep Kap around, that $12 million figure will be an awfully large bullet to bite. 2/6 for 14 yards http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/339760/chip-we-havent-talked-releasing-kaepernick?ls=roto:SF:topheadlines I think he just wants out of SF and the Chipper Aaaaaaaannnnnnndddddd now he can claim racism. I didn't get what this was all about when I first heard, but now I understand. He is in his 4th/5th/6th year or whatever and now is the time? I respect his right to do whatever, but you'll have a hard time convincing me something he does is about anyone other than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 nothing says freedom more than being forced to worship the same god, speak the same language.... basically told to live a certain way in all aspects of our lives.th that is not even remotely my point. Now youre just being contrarian. Because freedom allows us to be this different, we need a shared sense of patriotism to keep us from tearing ourselves apart. As long as we can all stand together to celebrate our shared sense of unity from time to time, we'll be OK. When that ends ... buy gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 True Story from the Life of Hopeful. When our baby was just shy of 9 months old and baby/mom more or less recovered from various complications, the Hopeful family made a decision to finally have a date night, sans baby, to celebrate my birthday. We went all out: reservations to a trendy restaurant for dinner; excellent tickets to see STOMP!, the familiar caregiver from her excellent daycare as a very well-paid babysitter. That was September 11, 2000. After discussion and some phone calls to the restaurant and the venue, we decided to proceed with the planned evening. We figured what the terrorists are after is getting in everyone's head and disrupting normal life, so if we stay home, they win that small victory. So off we went. The restaurant was out of flown-in stuff, like fresh fish, but otherwise good. I don't know if STOMP always starts that way, but just before the starting time, the venue went pitch black, even the small aisle lights. Into the darkness came the sound of a lone bugle, playing our National Anthem. At the crescendo, three spotlights lit up our flag. I guarantee there wasn't a dry eye in the house that night. That's how I "get" our flag and our national anthem - as an enduring symbol that our nation, flaws and warts and stumbles and tragedies, is fundamentally strong and good and will continue and evolve. Good story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 @RapSheet "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people and people of color." https://t.co/CNnJJqG77R Real simple, pack your bags and leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 Real simple, pack your bags and leave. How very un-American of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 that is not even remotely my point. Now youre just being contrarian. Because freedom allows us to be this different, we need a shared sense of patriotism to keep us from tearing ourselves apart. As long as we can all stand together to celebrate our shared sense of unity from time to time, we'll be OK. When that ends ... buy gold. I get your point, the problem is that we can't even agree on patriotism or on what freedom really means. Just look at this thread. Someone speaks his mind on an unpopular , controversial topic, some tell him it's ok to speak, others say shut up, others say leave the country. And nobody ever really changes their minds anymore. Hard to get in agreement on anything. Real simple, pack your bags and leave. If you don't like him exercising his first amendment rights, maybe you should leave the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 This thread has too many triggers, so I'm gonna go hang in my safe space, the EJ bashing thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 "I'd say that if Kaepernick hates America so much, he should just go to Canada. But he'd probably suck in the CFL too" @TimBenzPGH's Tweet: https://twitter.com/TimBenzPGH/status/769550066717720577?s=01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 This thread has too many triggers, so I'm gonna go hang in my safe space, the EJ bashing thread. Wise choice. Go with your strengths! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 that is not even remotely my point. Now youre just being contrarian. Because freedom allows us to be this different, we need a shared sense of patriotism to keep us from tearing ourselves apart. As long as we can all stand together to celebrate our shared sense of unity from time to time, we'll be OK. When that ends ... buy gold. Great, great, great way of putting it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 The whole national anthem/flag/military honor guard/military jet flyover thing that is now associated with sports in this country is flat out bizarre and really has nothing to do with watching sports. Some of it is flat out paid for by the military as a marketing ploy. Get rid of all of it. Ya think maybe it has something to do with honoring the men and women that have served in the military, sacrificed so much to protect our freedoms and those that lost their lives? It's apparent you never served a day in the military and would have done everything to avoid going into the military if called upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 I get your point, the problem is that we can't even agree on patriotism or on what freedom really means. Just look at this thread. Someone speaks his mind on an unpopular , controversial topic, some tell him it's ok to speak, others say shut up, others say leave the country. And nobody ever really changes their minds anymore. Hard to get in agreement on anything. Too true, and very troubling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Ya think maybe it has something to do with honoring the men and women that have served in the military, sacrificed so much to protect our freedoms and those that lost their lives? It's apparent you never served a day in the military and would have done everything to avoid going into the military if called upon. That's quite a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 That's quite a stretch. Not necessarily. We don't know one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 That's quite a stretch. That's your opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 I get your point, the problem is that we can't even agree on patriotism or on what freedom really means. Just look at this thread. Someone speaks his mind on an unpopular , controversial topic, some tell him it's ok to speak, others say shut up, others say leave the country. And nobody ever really changes their minds anymore. Hard to get in agreement on anything. If you don't like him exercising his first amendment rights, maybe you should leave the country. People are changing their minds in this country like never before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 I helped defend this country by serving eight years in the Marines. I find not standing for the national anthem to be very disrespectful. What have you done for our country besides run your mouth? Did you defend peoples first amendment rights or just the right to say and do what you want them to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 I'd only add that no symbol is worth more than the very thing it represents. I've seen some unsavory groups wrap themselves in that symbol over the years and it made me cringe every time. Until I remembered what that symbol represented. And then I thought, "Lucky bastards." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 all those Irish and polish slaves that were brought over from Africa are missing out on a history month. So, no one from Ireland and Poland were ever slaves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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