BarleyNY Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I think the OP's point was that Sullivan chose not to include the fact that Woods was playing with an injury, not that what he said was incorrect. And are you saying because he was playing with an injury, that it is a predictor of the future? Then I agree, he would probably play thru another injury if he could.. You're a good example on why some athletes choose not to play with injury. Why play when you're only criticized for being sub par? Then again those ones will only criticize you for not playing thru injury. You can't win with some people. That's all fair, 1st&10. My normal caveat in cases like this is that all players play injured by midseason, but I think some extra weight can be given in this case due to him needing surgery to correct it. It was obviously bad. But here's the weird thing - his yards per game average the first 7 games is the same as his last 6. So I don't know what to think without looking more closely at which games he started, number of targets he got, etc. I do know this, however: His best year was 2014 when he had 699 yards and we are going to need him to stay healthy and get at least that this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Sully sucks As someone who has torn his groin before, it is excruciatingly painful. I tried to play through it as it happened my senior year. Some days i could barely walk. Try cut quickly or open up your hips to cover someone. Damn near impossible Excellent post my friend; excellent description! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Woods had 65 catches and almost 700 yards and 5 TDs in 2014 with EJ throwing him the ball for a quarter of the season. He was injured last year and the Bills ran the ball more. Sully's an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Who is this Sullivan you speak of? I don't know who this person is. Seriously, life is more pleasant when I don't read his crap. I don't click on a link that I know is is, and I sure as hell don't support any advertisers who are on his page if I happen to land on one of his "articles." The only way to ignore him is by not giving the Buffalo News the page views and let the advertisers know I will avoid them if I see an ad on one of his pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 wow. you pick the most interesting places to dig in Weo ! This is too easy 3/12--read Barley's theory! Come on! He's the embodiment of the Argument Clinic by Monty Python. Pointing out BS isn't an "argument". It often amazes me what people toss out there. This guy is just assuming that this up and coming writer was somehow forced out at the itty bitty BN---and landed at a nationally read sport website!--and that's evidence of a "problem" at BN. How can one NOT comment on the goofiness of that position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 I skipped ahead. Anything new? I'm guessing more of the same.... I don't even look in that direction anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 This is too easy 3/12--read Barley's theory! Come on! Pointing out BS isn't an "argument". It often amazes me what people toss out there. This guy is just assuming that this up and coming writer was somehow forced out at the itty bitty BN---and landed at a nationally read sport website!--and that's evidence of a "problem" at BN. How can one NOT comment on the goofiness of that position? I didn't realize that Bleacher Report was that big of an upgrade to TBN. Do you think you can ever forgive me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 This is too easy 3/12--read Barley's theory! Come on! Pointing out BS isn't an "argument". It often amazes me what people toss out there. This guy is just assuming that this up and coming writer was somehow forced out at the itty bitty BN---and landed at a nationally read sport website!--and that's evidence of a "problem" at BN. How can one NOT comment on the goofiness of that position? I think you have made my point Dear Weo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurmal34 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Hey WEO - is Cordy Glenn a guard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Print media is dying a slow death. And dinosaurs like Sully are lifers and not going anywhere. It was smart for Dunne to take the BR job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Sully sucks As someone who has torn his groin before, it is excruciatingly painful. I tried to play through it as it happened my senior year. Some days i could barely walk. Try cut quickly or open up your hips to cover someone. Damn near impossible Man Deranged went postal when I mentioned my history with groin injuries.......good thing he's not in this thread. First muscle injury I ever had was a groin strain playing hockey at age 8..........and basically had one after another thereafter.....including a couple tears. I missed one game a couple days after the worst tear tear but otherwise played thru all of the groin injuries because if I didn't I would have missed practically every season. It's extremely painful and exactly as you described.......it's like waking up with rigor mortis........ but it's not like a torn hamstring.......with the help of lot's of warm up and pain relief it's not surprising to me that a pro athlete could play and play fast thru it. Woods had a number of situations post injury where he fell on his face after trying to get RAC yards and the infamous flop in the end zone and that is that shooting pain from change of direction.......but as Barley pointed out.....he wasn't on pace for a great year prior to the injury either. THIS is his money year so we can probably expect the best we will ever see from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Ive never seen such a disparity in opinions on one player as I have with Woods. A solid 2nd round pick, special teamer, blocker, gets open, tough. Tons of skeptics who are really hard on the guy. Look, nobody hands him a starting job here, he earns it every year in camp and then proves it by doing everything we ask of the guy in our run-first, sammy 2nd and everyone else 3rd offense. Some fans want a pair of 1000 yard receivers and a few 1000 yard rushers or they're not happy. Ridiculous. Worry about our defense and leave the freakin offensive guys alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Woods had a number of situations post injury where he fell on his face after trying to get RAC yards and the infamous flop in the end zone and that is that shooting pain from change of direction.......but as Barley pointed out.....he wasn't on pace for a great year prior to the injury either. Facts are important: He injured the groin in camp and played through it. He wasn't healthy at all in the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Bills Fan Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Sully and Bucky are desperate to sell papers. They love being negative, there is a reason why they never take calls on the radio or their pitiful TV show. Only cowards act like that. Keep in mind that Bucky said the President Cup Sabres were not good and Sully thinks Marv and company were in a bad conference for those AFC titles. I dont give the Buffalo News my business and have said so when offered the paper because of those two hacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Nothing he said was incorrect. The Bills were an average team last year and Woods played below average. The past is a great predictor of the future. Sully hatred burns deeply in these parts.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Facts are important: He injured the groin in camp and played through it. He wasn't healthy at all in the regular season. Just more BADOL nonsense. He's the king of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 I skipped ahead. Anything new? I'm guessing more of the same.... I don't even look in that direction anymore. I only clicked into this thread hoping for some humorous posts. TBD posters >>>> Sully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Almost all WRs will look like busts in our offense if you only look at reception numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 (edited) I suspect there is no media outlet breaking down the door trying to hire Sully or Bucky. I suspect you're right. Dunne got a bigger opportunity because he's the better writer. Personally, I read virtually everything Dunne writes and virtually none of the things Sully writes. Edited August 2, 2016 by hondo in seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Yeesh - thats what qualifies for a buffalo news article? What was that like 75 words? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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