KDIGGZ Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) Lynch is my new fav QB. Because of the possible trade value it will give our pick knowing the Jets would take him at 20. Our phone will be ringing off the hook with QB needy teams looking to trade for our pick Edited April 27, 2016 by kdiggz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 If we don't take Lynch, better pray the Jets don't. Just like we better pray the Jets don't take Bryce Petty last year, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Mrags, I wonder why you shudder when you hear "re-up". It was used in the military as the term to "re-enlist" (sign up for 6 more years in the Army or whatever branch). The re-up concept was quite distasteful to some soldiers because they were not there voluntarily. This was the Vietnam era when the draft was still in effect. I can't imagine why the term "re-up" in a football sense would bug you, but everybody has their buttons. Personally, I find the expression "I just threw up in my mouth a little" to be pretty foul, but some people like to express themselves that way. Off topic a bit, but hey, that's life. well, you got me. I looked it up and its actually in the Marriam Webster dictionary. All this time I just thought it was a lazy way of saying re-sign. While this doesn't change a thing for me. I will still think it's just people lazily stating re-up. I actually shudder even more thinking this is an actual term. Now I hate you for it. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 If we don't take Lynch, better pray the Jets don't. why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 why? Crossing my fingers the Jets take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 BR reports that both the Bills and Jets are "extremely interested" in Lynch and would likely have to trade up to get him most likely because there are other teams that are interested in him as well. SF (select well before the Bills in R1) and Denver (select well after the Bills in R1) could be two of those teams. My opinion regarding this issue is that a franchise QB is a very, very difficult commodity to acquire, which Bills fans know all too well not having had one since Jim Kelly's playing days in the 1990's. If the Bills believe Lynch is a franchise QB they should do what they can to get him....within reason. Isn't there a reason one can't link BR articles directly here? I'm remembering a draft where everyone was certain we would take Ryan Nassib. We all knew how that went. Then there was Kiper (I think) was expounding on how Jimmy Claussen was the best QB in his draft. Whoever we're really interested in, I don't think we'll be reading about it in BR or any other media pundit but maybe that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) Beerball, I think you had one tonight. I'm sure you were just being sarcastic on EJ, but just had a chill thinking of that one. We should have a contest next year for who could pull the Trump ad tell EJ "You're Fired!" Nice kid, but that Jags game really sealed his fate. You know, I'm not enamored of EJ. I think he might have had a chance to be a decent NFL QB if he'd had good QB mentoring from Day 1 and a year or 2 on the bench, but that ship has sailed (I'm not at all convinced Lee is a good QB coach, BTW. I think he made Fitzy worse). OTOH, I'm also genuinely puzzled why people insist "the Jags game sealed his fate". He didn't even have a passer rating of zero, and he played decently in the 2nd half of the game which speaks well of his mental strength. If you look at the list of QB who actually have posted a passer rating of zero, there are some pretty distinguished names on that list - Johnny Unitas, Joe Namath (2x), Terry Bradshaw (3x), all 3 Mannings (!). Moreover, people here claim Hoyer > EJ in despite of the awful Texans-KC game he had - way worse than the EJ Jags game. My point is, if EJ's "fate" is sealed, it's not because of the Jags game, because many a decent or good or great QB has a bad game. It's because his overall level of play isn't high enough, and because the current coaching staff has moved on from him as a starter and he wants a chance to start - so next year when his contract is up, he will likely move on, and be given a chance elsewhere in this QB hungry league. Edited April 27, 2016 by Hopeful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 So what happens if Tyrod plays great the first 4 games of the season and then has a season ending injury. EJ comes in and plays well. Leads team to the playoffs and even a win in playoff game 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 You know, I'm not enamored of EJ. I think he might have had a chance to be a decent NFL QB if he'd had good QB mentoring from Day 1 and a year or 2 on the bench, but that ship has sailed (I'm not at all convinced Lee is a good QB coach, BTW. I think he made Fitzy worse). OTOH, I'm also genuinely puzzled why people insist "the Jags game sealed his fate". He didn't even have a passer rating of zero, and he played decently in the 2nd half of the game which speaks well of his mental strength. If you look at the list of QB who actually have posted a passer rating of zero, there are some pretty distinguished names on that list - Johnny Unitas, Joe Namath (2x), Terry Bradshaw (3x), all 3 Mannings (!). Moreover, people here claim Hoyer > EJ in despite of the awful Texans-KC game he had - way worse than the EJ Jags game. My point is, if EJ's "fate" is sealed, it's not because of the Jags game, because many a decent or good or great QB has a bad game. It's because his overall level of play isn't high enough, and because the current coaching staff has moved on from him as a starter and he wants a chance to start - so next year when his contract is up, he will likely move on, and be given a chance elsewhere in this QB hungry league. From my perspective, at some point the year before last I knew he wasn't starting NFL material. But, I have to agree that the Jags game did indeed seal his fate. It was horrific Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 So what happens if Tyrod plays great the first 4 games of the season and then has a season ending injury. EJ comes in and plays well. Leads team to the playoffs and even a win in playoff game 1?Pigs fly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 So what happens if Tyrod plays great the first 4 games of the season and then has a season ending injury. EJ comes in and plays well. Leads team to the playoffs and even a win in playoff game 1?it is a bit early to start drinking as the draft doesn't start for over 24 hours but you do you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Pigs fly? I lol'd, thanks for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 So what happens if Tyrod plays great the first 4 games of the season and then has a season ending injury. EJ comes in and plays well. Leads team to the playoffs and even a win in playoff game 1? You should start a thread about that because I don't see how it's related to this topic in the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) Lynch might be the best shot Bills have to trade down. But if he goes earlier than 19 Cook might be next up or Hackenberg even. My point is if teams start chasing QBs after the second pick in the draft , it is good for the Bills Edited April 27, 2016 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 I was thinking the Jets might try to trade Wilkerson for Kaepernick and a pick . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) I just can't buy the smoke with Lynch and the Bills in the 1st. It doesn't add up to me. There are at least 3 other teams without established starting QBs going into the draft - Browns, jets, Broncos. Add in the Niners as well, I'd think. Then you consider the Saints who have met with him multiple times and may need a new starter as soon as next year. Any of these 5 are more likely to either take him before the Bills (Niners, Browns, Saints) or offer more in a trade up (jets, Broncos) if he is indeed that good. If he's not gone by 19 then how good is he really, with all these QB-less teams passing on him and feeling ok going with the next tier of QBs? Further, the Bills did not bring him in for a visit, which based on recent history in the Whaley regime, is meaningful for a 1st rd pick. They took him out to dinner, which based on recent history in he Whaley regime is meaningless. Also, a 1st round QB adds negative distraction to the TT situation if they have any interest in signing him long-term. The media will be all over it. 1st round QB says " we think this guy is our future starter." 2nd round or later just has a different connotation. As in, we think this guy has potential in the league, and it's a priority that we draft a QB because we have 2 QBs on the roster and both have expiring contracts. Which is what Whaley has been saying all along. I think they are simply trying to add to his trade up value by delivering all the leaks to the media. They will take a QB possibly as early as the 2nd, but I will be shocked if it's Paxton lynch in the 1st, even if he does fall to 19. I hope I'm not wrong! Edited April 28, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananathumb Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 I just can't buy the smoke with Lynch and the Bills in the 1st. It doesn't add up to me. There are at least 3 other teams without established starting QBs going into the draft - Browns, jets, Broncos. Add in the Niners as well, I'd think. Then you consider the Saints who have met with him multiple times and may need a new starter as soon as next year. Any of these 5 are more likely to either take him before the Bills (Niners, Browns, Saints) or offer more in a trade up (jets, Broncos) if he is indeed that good. If he's not gone by 19 then how good is he really, with all these QB-less teams passing on him and feeling ok going with the next tier of QBs? Further, the Bills did not bring him in for a visit, which based on recent history in the Whaley regime, is meaningful for a 1st rd pick. They took him out to dinner, which based on recent history in he Whaley regime is meaningless. Also, a 1st round QB adds negative distraction to the TT situation if they have any interest in signing him long-term. The media will be all over it. 1st round QB says " we think this guy is our future starter." 2nd round or later just has a different connotation. As in, we think this guy has potential in the league, and it's a priority that we draft a QB because we have 2 QBs on the roster and both have expiring contracts. Which is what Whaley has been saying all along. I think they are simply trying to add to his trade up value by delivering all the leaks to the media. They will take a QB possibly as early as the 2nd, but I will be shocked if it's Paxton lynch in the 1st, even if he does fall to 19. I hope I'm not wrong! If you were GM, would you gamble that Tyrod Taylor is going to suddenly "develop" into a franchise, playoff QB or snag a 6'7" round one caliber kid who might be "the answer" in Buffalo? If they are not 100% convinced of TT's upside, they HAVE to address the position. Lynch is a perfect pick at 19 and if we don't take him, the Jets will at 20. So suddenly THEY have the franchise QB and we're sitting with another FItz for five years at $12 million a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) If you were GM, would you gamble that Tyrod Taylor is going to suddenly "develop" into a franchise, playoff QB or snag a 6'7" round one caliber kid who might be "the answer" in Buffalo? If they are not 100% convinced of TT's upside, they HAVE to address the position. Lynch is a perfect pick at 19 and if we don't take him, the Jets will at 20. So suddenly THEY have the franchise QB and we're sitting with another FItz for five years at $12 million a year."if they have any interest in signing TT long term." Your GM doesn't seem to? Our GM does seem to. Addressing the position and taking this guy in the 1st are not one and the same. There are 4 teams ahead of us and two behind us without either an established starter or a playoff QB on the roster. If lynch is a franchise QB, why is he still there and no one took him earlier or traded up for him? That's the scenario I discussed. Unless you think the Bills are just smarter than everyone else? If the Jets and Broncos think he is what you seem to think he is, why didn't they trade up for him? Edited April 28, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 If you were GM, would you gamble that Tyrod Taylor is going to suddenly "develop" into a franchise, playoff QB or snag a 6'7" round one caliber kid who might be "the answer" in Buffalo? If they are not 100% convinced of TT's upside, they HAVE to address the position. Lynch is a perfect pick at 19 and if we don't take him, the Jets will at 20. So suddenly THEY have the franchise QB and we're sitting with another FItz for five years at $12 million a year. What if you don't think Lynch is a franchise caliber QB, as several of us believe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Bills trade down from #19 with the Cleveland Browns, who jump ahead of the Jets. Bills get Rd 2, pick1 (32) and Rd 3, pick 2 (65) and Rd 4 pick1 (99). forgot to say, to pick Paxton Lynch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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