Virgil Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I knew how close we were to the new cap, but the worst? While I know why, I can't understand how the Pegula's are going to be okay with this for long. Yes, we just extended Whaley, but 9-7, 8-8, no signs of improvement and spending more than everyone else? I mean, logic would dictate there's a huge problem here, right? Sure, refer to all the other threads where we cut Mario, but that's just to re-sign other impending FA's. Either way, we are gonna be up there and I have to imagine that the leash is going to be short, contracts for Rex and Whaley or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybe Someday Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 We went all in...to make the playoffs. Oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I knew how close we were to the new cap, but the worst? While I know why, I can't understand how the Pegula's are going to be okay with this for long. Yes, we just extended Whaley, but 9-7, 8-8, no signs of improvement and spending more than everyone else? I mean, logic would dictate there's a huge problem here, right? Sure, refer to all the other threads where we cut Mario, but that's just to re-sign other impending FA's. Either way, we are gonna be up there and I have to imagine that the leash is going to be short, contracts for Rex and Whaley or not. What's so egregious about this is the Bills do not even have a franchise QB under contract and they are still in this situation. I think it was Taylor's escalators that bumped him up a few mill that dragged them down into the worst cap shape in the NFL for the 2016 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 We have the least space but we have the most players under contract too. I'd rather be in our position than about 5 or 6 others in the league. We need to make some tough decisions this off-season but they are all within the realm of normal cap management. The Clay contract is a bit of a sickener though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 We went all in...to make the playoffs. Oops. Shouldn't we be trying to win the Super Bowl? This team is so backwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Shouldn't we be trying to win the Super Bowl? This team is so backwards Yup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 You make a good point on signed contracts. For example, the Broncos have $8 mil left in space, but they have to pay a few guys, and most importantly, the $100 mil contract for Von Miller. They'll save some on letting Manning go, but Osweiler will cost at least $10 mil a year. So we are in a tough cap spot, but we can dump quite a bit of money with jettising a few people. Bottom line is every time you see a thread stating why not get this free agent, remember we have no money. We will use our space to resign the needed guys, and the rest comes in the draft. We'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 We are not that bad. Cut Mario and re-sign Glenn and Incognito, pay cuts for Leo and Lawson and sign Sanu or Barron. Whaley has done a really good job IMO. The talent on this roster isn't a issue. The Bills are one of the most talented teams in the league. The coaching last year was a HUGE problem. If that defense played anywhere near where we thought that they would, the Bills were Super Bowl contenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) You make a good point on signed contracts. For example, the Broncos have $8 mil left in space, but they have to pay a few guys, and most importantly, the $100 mil contract for Von Miller. They'll save some on letting Manning go, but Osweiler will cost at least $10 mil a year. So we are in a tough cap spot, but we can dump quite a bit of money with jettising a few people. Bottom line is every time you see a thread stating why not get this free agent, remember we have no money. We will use our space to resign the needed guys, and the rest comes in the draft. We'll be fine. Cutting Manning leaves $27 million and change under the cap. They are in WAY better shape than the Bills this year even when you factor the Osweiler contract. We have the least space but we have the most players under contract too. I'd rather be in our position than about 5 or 6 others in the league. We need to make some tough decisions this off-season but they are all within the realm of normal cap management. The Clay contract is a bit of a sickener though. ...and when you start cutting players to get under the cap and also to create cap space to sign guys like Glenn and Incognito that will not be the case anymore. Edited February 20, 2016 by BuffaloBillsForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I knew how close we were to the new cap, but the worst? Is there someone saying we have the worst? We do have the least cap space on paper, but the "devil" is in the details of how we handle it. $10M of that is Clay's roster bonus this season, which we may or may not ask him to restructure. (We may not, because keeping it there gives us a big chunk of free money next season to sign Gilmore and Taylor) I would personally tab the NO Saints for "worst cap situation". They are carrying $22M in dead money and they don't have a D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Not really: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/183724-spotrac-manage-roster-tool-2016-bills-salary-cap/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 People's ignorance on the salary cap continues to baffle me. You would think after having threads about this every week people would finally start to understand. Guess not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 People's ignorance on the salary cap continues to baffle me. You would think after having threads about this every week people would finally start to understand. Guess not. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Me having the least cash in my wallet doesn't mean I have the worst financial situation, as an example of how superficial this post is with regards to analyzing a cap situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 We're doomed. Dooooomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Me having the least cash in my wallet doesn't mean I have the worst financial situation, as an example of how superficial this post is with regards to analyzing a cap situation Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 People's ignorance on the salary cap continues to baffle me. You would think after having threads about this every week people would finally start to understand. Guess not. Hey now...not everyone here was smart enough to attend Cornell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) Finally! A good, healthy discussion about the Bills cap. I can't believe it hasn't been brought up once or a thousand times yet in every thread. Edited February 20, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex players coach Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Here are my six moves freeing up 20,650,000 Putting cap space at 12,684,214 Release Mario Williams. Saving 12,900,000 Restructure Kyle Williams. Saving 2,507,500 Restructure Aaron Williams. Saving 1,210,000 Restructure Corey Graham. Saving 1,210,000 Release Dan Carpender. Saving 1,762,000 Release Boobie I could see them letting go Corey Graham Rex put him on blast for missing a tackle during the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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