#34fan Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Sooooo the NFL is free to damage Manziel's brain with concussive, debilitating, hits, But he's forbidden to do it himself using good coke, and Chlamydia? Not fair. He's a whopping twenty frickin' two years old... I got SOCKS with more years on them. Is he a little bit of a shmuck? -Absolutely... Own worst enemy? -For sure... But let's be clear here, Manziel's biggest error was not living up to the ridiculous hopes of a team, and organization that hasn't won anything in for-fricking'-EVER! I see nothing disqualifying him from another chance, in another town, with another team... Sounds like a spoiled brat that could use a bit of an outreach, -Maybe a mature player, or coach to help straighten him out. I'm in the camp that hopes he pulls out of this downward spiral... A safe landing in a less needy, more supportive, organization would be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 Sooooo the NFL is free to damage Manziel's brain with concussive, debilitating, hits, But he's forbidden to do it himself using good coke, and Chlamydia? Not fair. He's a whopping twenty frickin' two years old... I got SOCKS with more years on them. Is he a little bit of a shmuck? -Absolutely... Own worst enemy? -For sure... But let's be clear here, Manziel's biggest error was not living up to the ridiculous hopes of a team, and organization that hasn't won anything in for-fricking'-EVER! I see nothing disqualifying him from another chance, in another town, with another team... Sounds like a spoiled brat that could use a bit of an outreach, -Maybe a mature player, or coach to help straighten him out. I'm in the camp that hopes he pulls out of this downward spiral... A safe landing in a less needy, more supportive, organization would be ideal. So Buffalo ... Merril Hoge nails his prediction (about as good a QB assessment as you will ever see). Skip Bayless provides some classic comic relief (about as bad a QB assessment as you will ever see). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZJKBoDrGlA Wow Merril the prophet ... and Bayless as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 I'm in the camp that hopes he pulls out of this downward spiral... A safe landing in a less needy, more supportive, organization would be ideal. Sounds like you are saying Seattle Seahawks and Pete Carroll who is known for being a hugging type of coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Is he a little bit of a shmuck? -Absolutely... Own worst enemy? -For sure... But let's be clear here, Manziel's biggest error was not living up to the ridiculous hopes of a team, and organization that hasn't won anything in for-fricking'-EVER! No, Manziel's biggest errors were 1) Being violent with women. Not many "errors" bigger than that. Don't try and minimize the significance of domestic violence. It disgusts me, and shames you. 2) Lying and being a bad person. Let's face it, the guy is NOT a good person, and his teammates can't rely on him. That has nothing to do with living up to the hopes of a team. It isn't like he tried real hard but the team sucked so he couldn't do it. He didn't even try most of the time, and showed up to practice hungover. He's an ass, and I can't stand people making excuses for such a waste of space. Anyone who advocates that he join the Bills should have their head examined. So Buffalo ... Please. Really? Are you serious? Is your crusade that foolish that you STILL feel you have a sliver of an argument for the guy? Should we sign Ryan Leaf as a backup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Sooooo the NFL is free to damage Manziel's brain with concussive, debilitating, hits, But he's forbidden to do it himself using good coke, and Chlamydia? Not fair. He's a whopping twenty frickin' two years old... I got SOCKS with more years on them. Is he a little bit of a shmuck? -Absolutely... Own worst enemy? -For sure... But let's be clear here, Manziel's biggest error was not living up to the ridiculous hopes of a team, and organization that hasn't won anything in for-fricking'-EVER! I see nothing disqualifying him from another chance, in another town, with another team... Sounds like a spoiled brat that could use a bit of an outreach, -Maybe a mature player, or coach to help straighten him out. I'm in the camp that hopes he pulls out of this downward spiral... A safe landing in a less needy, more supportive, organization would be ideal. You should probably get new socks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 manziel is a train wreck BUST on and off the field. and even in the unlikely event he straightens out his personal life......he will NEVER make it in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 You should probably get new socks its true. a fresh pair might really change your outlook on life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Sooooo the NFL is free to damage Manziel's brain with concussive, debilitating, hits, But he's forbidden to do it himself using good coke, and Chlamydia? Not fair. He's a whopping twenty frickin' two years old... I got SOCKS with more years on them. Is he a little bit of a shmuck? -Absolutely... Own worst enemy? -For sure... But let's be clear here, Manziel's biggest error was not living up to the ridiculous hopes of a team, and organization that hasn't won anything in for-fricking'-EVER! I see nothing disqualifying him from another chance, in another town, with another team... Sounds like a spoiled brat that could use a bit of an outreach, -Maybe a mature player, or coach to help straighten him out. I'm in the camp that hopes he pulls out of this downward spiral... A safe landing in a less needy, more supportive, organization would be ideal. I think it is fair. If he gets concussions and other injuries sacrificing himself for the sake of his team, he's a good team-player. If he damages himself with drugs and STDs, he's an idiot. Context and motivation matter, a lot. A soldier who blows his leg off stepping on IED serving his country is a hero. A terrorist who blows his leg off making a bomb intended to kill innocent people is not. Part of Johnny's problem is that he has an unrestrained interest in his own short-term pleasure. He comes across as a selfish, undisciplined kid with real psychological issues. My guess is that the best thing for Johnny is to spend a year away from football getting healthy in mind and body. If was a GM, I wouldn't look at him until that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 its true. a fresh pair might really change your outlook on life. I hear Dallas is nice this time of year, too. New socks are one of best things a Man can do for himself. Refreshes the soul I think it is fair. If he gets concussions and other injuries sacrificing himself for the sake of his team, he's a good team-player. If he damages himself with drugs and STDs, he's an idiot. Context and motivation matter, a lot. A soldier who blows his leg off stepping on IED serving his country is a hero. A terrorist who blows his leg off making a bomb intended to kill innocent people is not. Part of Johnny's problem is that he has an unrestrained interest in his own short-term pleasure. He comes across as a selfish, undisciplined kid with real psychological issues. My guess is that the best thing for Johnny is to spend a year away from football getting healthy in mind and body. If was a GM, I wouldn't look at him until that happened. amazingly unhappy kid with no quality compass to reference. #parentingmatters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) No, Manziel's biggest errors were 1) Being violent with women. Not many "errors" bigger than that. Don't try and minimize the significance of domestic violence. It disgusts me, and shames you. 2) Lying and being a bad person. Let's face it, the guy is NOT a good person, and his teammates can't rely on him. That has nothing to do with living up to the hopes of a team. It isn't like he tried real hard but the team sucked so he couldn't do it. He didn't even try most of the time, and showed up to practice hungover. He's an ass, and I can't stand people making excuses for such a waste of space. Anyone who advocates that he join the Bills should have their head examined. Todd, you're the absolute pope of TBD... A holier, more sanctimonious and righteous poster cannot be found anywhere on this board... Good luck finding an actual player that lives up to your preposterous standards... I don't know the full story behind the Manziel domestic violence incident..... If he did smack the girl then SHAME ON HIM.... I'ts a despicable act committed by a very young human being... I wonder how deep the Browns organization delved into his character before drafting him 22nd overal in '14.... My guess is not very deep at all... And if the organization felt the act was so heinous... Then why not part ways the instant they confirmed it happened? Manziel owns his fair share of issues... But he isn't the first girl-puncher to play in this league, and he won't be the last... Five years out of high school, most of us are FAR from finished products... I'm not dragging him out to the dumpster just yet. You should probably get new socks Got 'em in Toronto when I lived back east... SUPER WARM! and No Holes! Gotta get them outta storage.. Might just give them to my mom. its true. a fresh pair might really change your outlook on life. Nah.. That's underwear... A fresh pair of drawers makes you feel like a new man. I think it is fair. If he gets concussions and other injuries sacrificing himself for the sake of his team, he's a good team-player. If he damages himself with drugs and STDs, he's an idiot. Context and motivation matter, a lot. A soldier who blows his leg off stepping on IED serving his country is a hero. A terrorist who blows his leg off making a bomb intended to kill innocent people is not. Part of Johnny's problem is that he has an unrestrained interest in his own short-term pleasure. He comes across as a selfish, undisciplined kid with real psychological issues. My guess is that the best thing for Johnny is to spend a year away from football getting healthy in mind and body. If was a GM, I wouldn't look at him until that happened. Yah, sacrificing himself so the multi-Billionaire owners can get even richer, and the obnoxious, mouth-breathing, fans can go Oooooooooh! If you're comparing that in any way, shape or form, to combat, and IED's, then we probably shouldn't talk. I hear Dallas is nice this time of year, too. New socks are one of best things a Man can do for himself. Refreshes the soul amazingly unhappy kid with no quality compass to reference. #parentingmatters This is huge... It's been on my mind since his downward spiral started... Where the heck are mom and dad in all this chaos??? I think if he loses football things might get even worse.... Jerry Jones to the rescue? Edited March 22, 2016 by #34fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Todd, you're the absolute pope of TBD... A holier, more sanctimonious and righteous poster cannot be found anywhere on this board... Good luck finding an actual player that lives up to your preposterous standards... I don't know the full story behind the Manziel domestic violence incident..... If he did smack the girl then SHAME ON HIM.... I'ts a despicable act committed by a very young human being... I wonder how deep the Browns organization delved into his character before drafting him 22nd overal in '14.... My guess is not very deep at all... And if the organization felt the act was so heinous... Then why not part ways the instant they confirmed it happened? Manziel owns his fair share of issues... But he isn't the first girl-puncher to play in this league, and he won't be the last... Five years out of high school, most of us are FAR from finished products... I'm not dragging him out to the dumpster just yet. Gee that's a great post. Love how you downplay beating up women. "Other people do it," ... "But he's young!" ... "It's the Browns fault for not looking into it!" ... "If it was such a big deal, the Browns would have cut him sooner!" ... Any more excuses you'd like to throw out there for a scumbag beating on girls? Not many issues are black & white. This one is. I hope you can decide to be on the right side of it. There's no excuse for smacking women around, yet you keep making them. Any more garbage you'd like to share with the board before I hide your ass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 His only chance is to go to rehab, and outpatient care for the next year, work with a QB coach, and get his skills ready for a back up NFL gig. No one is going to take a risk on the sideshow. More likely is he keeps screwing up, and never makes it back to the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Manziel owns his fair share of issues... But he isn't the first girl-puncher to play in this league, and he won't be the last... Five years out of high school, most of us are FAR from finished products... I'm not dragging him out to the dumpster just yet. I don't think you need to be a "finished product" to show up for work and not beat the crap out of your girlfriend in a drunken rage. Most things in life are just what they seem: in Manziel's case that's a total scumbag. Yah, sacrificing himself so the multi-Billionaire owners can get even richer, and the obnoxious, mouth-breathing, fans can go Oooooooooh! It's a shame he didn't have the option to go hunt for an entry level job for $30,000/year like every other college grad does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Gee that's a great post. Love how you downplay beating up women. "Other people do it," ... "But he's young!" ... "It's the Browns fault for not looking into it!" ... "If it was such a big deal, the Browns would have cut him sooner!" ... Any more excuses you'd like to throw out there for a scumbag beating on girls? Not many issues are black & white. This one is. I hope you can decide to be on the right side of it. There's no excuse for smacking women around, yet you keep making them. Any more garbage you'd like to share with the board before I hide your ass? slow clap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Sooooo the NFL is free to damage Manziel's brain with concussive, debilitating, hits, But he's forbidden to do it himself using good coke, and Chlamydia? Not fair. He's a whopping twenty frickin' two years old... I got SOCKS with more years on them. Is he a little bit of a shmuck? -Absolutely... Own worst enemy? -For sure... But let's be clear here, Manziel's biggest error was not living up to the ridiculous hopes of a team, and organization that hasn't won anything in for-fricking'-EVER! I see nothing disqualifying him from another chance, in another town, with another team... Sounds like a spoiled brat that could use a bit of an outreach, -Maybe a mature player, or coach to help straighten him out. I'm in the camp that hopes he pulls out of this downward spiral... A safe landing in a less needy, more supportive, organization would be ideal. Its not like Godell is hitting him with a hammer... Manziel needs to take his JOB seriously if he wants to be successful. Plain and simple Gee that's a great post. Love how you downplay beating up women. "Other people do it," ... "But he's young!" ... "It's the Browns fault for not looking into it!" ... "If it was such a big deal, the Browns would have cut him sooner!" ... Any more excuses you'd like to throw out there for a scumbag beating on girls? Not many issues are black & white. This one is. I hope you can decide to be on the right side of it. There's no excuse for smacking women around, yet you keep making them. Any more garbage you'd like to share with the board before I hide your ass? Gee that's a great post. Love how you downplay beating up women. "Other people do it," ... "But he's young!" ... "It's the Browns fault for not looking into it!" ... "If it was such a big deal, the Browns would have cut him sooner!" ... Any more excuses you'd like to throw out there for a scumbag beating on girls? Not many issues are black & white. This one is. I hope you can decide to be on the right side of it. There's no excuse for smacking women around, yet you keep making them. Any more garbage you'd like to share with the board before I hide your ass? slow clap. I'm going to second that ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) slow clap. Mocking is cool today, I guess. Edited March 22, 2016 by todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Talk about moving on..... @NateUlrichABJ #Browns spokesman said team won't do Johnny Manziel jersey buyback program after some consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Talk about moving on..... @NateUlrichABJ #Browns spokesman said team won't do Johnny Manziel jersey buyback program after some consideration. There should not be any reward for people dumb enough to buy a Manziel jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Why would they do this? For Aaron Hernandez I can sort of see it, but was an exchange, not a buyback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 @RapSheet Johnny Manziel does have interest from teams, but they seem to be waiting for @NFL disciplinary process to be concluded. That's an issue. .@NFL review of Johnny Manziel's conduct is in a holding pattern while his case is sent to the grand jury. Forces everything to hit pause. Colleen Crowley, Manziel's former GF, hasn't spoken to the NFL yet and likely won't until the grand jury reached a decision. Could be months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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