VADC Bills Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) Wrecks has officially turn this team into the 2014 Jets. He basically tried to fix something that wasn't broken...our #4 rated defense. I was at today's game today knowing all we had to do was to play the same game plan as we did Brady in the 2nd Pats game. Not only would we win but we would force Cousins into 2 or 3 turnovers like everyone else does. We make mediocre QB's look great. Not sure what it takes to remove Wrecks from the job but today was a total embarrassment. He has lost the defense. If he stays for another year we are assured a 4-12 team if we are lucky. Edited December 21, 2015 by VADC Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 The defense is so destroyed I can't even talk about it. As for the offense - Roman was trying to stick it to someone today. Just a hunch, but I feel strongly about it. There is something going on behind the scenes. Do you mean trying to run the ball up the middle with Shady at the goal line. My perception has always been that Roman must have been onboard with the Shady acquisition but I just don't see how Shady fit's what Roman wants to do......which is pound a defense with the running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I enjoy your assessments and agree with most of them, but I am not yet sure about Taylor. Taylor can't feel pressure either. All that speed is useless. Our D puts us in a 21-0 hole early and TT gets the criticism? I think he deserves kudos for bringing us back to make it closer at least score wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Do you mean trying to run the ball up the middle with Shady at the goal line. My perception has always been that Roman must have been onboard with the Shady acquisition but I just don't see how Shady fit's what Roman wants to do......which is pound a defense with the running game. Yup, that too. The playcalls today seemed to have a subtext, in the form of a giant middle finger pointing at OBD. Every year, the fans pay the price for the internal dysfunction and infighting. It's tiresome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Wrecks has officially turn this team into the 2014 Jets. Wrecks..............LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Regarding McCoy, he's been consistently good since coming back from the hamstring injury. Karlos, meanwhile, has gotten the majority of his yards against one team. I love me some Karlos, but let's not promote him over a proven and consistent all pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 To be fair, Rex wanted Schwartz to stay, but Schwartz declined. You have to believe that even if that is the case, Schwartz knew that Rex would be shoving his defense down his throat. No way the two of them could have co-existed, and I think both knew that. Schwartz really wanted a HC gig, the last thing he would have wanted was to be a DC and have a defensive HC telling him how to run the defense. All the people on here pleading for Schwartz to come back as DC with Rex HC aren't dealing in reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 The attraction is obvious. The guy is pretty persuading and completely full of ****. Pegulas fell for it hook line and sinker. An interesting question is what was Whaley's input on the hire? Was he for it, have qualms, express doubts or simply acquiesce to the desires of the new owners who he didn't want to ruffle? Whaley certainly is familiar with the community of coaches in the league. Rex was a known quantity and had his own style of doing business. Considering that Rex had an extended stay in NY Whaley had to have a very good idea of what he was in for. I would love to know what he was really thinking at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 You have to believe that even if that is the case, Schwartz knew that Rex would be shoving his defense down his throat. No way the two of them could have co-existed, and I think both knew that. Schwartz really wanted a HC gig, the last thing he would have wanted was to be a DC and have a defensive HC telling him how to run the defense. All the people on here pleading for Schwartz to come back as DC with Rex HC aren't dealing in reality. I agree. Was the smart move for Schwartz to decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I'm not a reactive person, but it may be that Rex has to go. We have some problems to address on the offensive side of the ball - potentially the entire line save for center and WR2 down the depth chart. We can't fix both sides of the ball in the same offseason, and keeping Rex means finding lots of new starters and a bunch of new depth on D. It's a lot easier to change the coach than it is to dump our competent 4-3 personnel to find players to fit this mess of a scheme. So maybe biting the bullet and moving on from Rex is the better play. If he's here next year we better plan on seeing him the year afterthat, too, because I just don't see how we successfully go can go from 4-3 (2014) to incomprehensible mess (2015) to 3-4 (2016) back to 4-3 (assuming a new coach and a 4-3 in 2017). Defensive system changes take awhile, and with the talent we have we might be better off dumping the system as opposed to dumping the players. As an aside, can anyone identify our base d? Hybrid doesn't count as a description. To these eyes it's a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 15) In case I don't get around to it later this week, allow me to wish every one of you and your loved ones a Merry Christmas filled with joy. This forum is great and has been for years. 16) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Merry Christmas everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Merry Christmas everyone.More like Merda Christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 C'mon, tell us your theories, both of you. This is a forum to discuss the Bills, no? My theory may be a bit far-fetched and it will ultimately depend on whether or not Rex Ryan survives this offseason. Meaning either Ryan had a lobotomy and has almost completely forgotten how to blitz this season or has balls the size of twin moons of Titan and took it upon himself to purposely submarine his own defense by not blitzing to achieve another goal. That goal being to see a different GM in Buffalo next year. A winning season would certainly complicate things. "The fact Ryan is the head coach, with four years left on his contract after this season, is not viewed as an impediment in the Bills' ability to attract other people to run the football operation, the source said." http://bills.buffalonews.com/2015/12/20/pegula-listening-to-outside-advice-on-bills-personnel-matters/ Now imagine what a hero Rex Ryan will look like next season when he asks his DT's to actually rush the passer and starts blitzing more than 10% like he has almost all this year. Perhaps up to the 50% in what made those 2009-2010 Jets teams so good on defense. If this year's defensive scheme and other issues aren't contrived to lose games. Those other issues being the lack of team discipline (penalties), the sloppy play with miscommunication, the missed tackles, the poor special teams. Then this HC might just be the worst since Hank Bullough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 More like Merda Christmas 'If I become president, we're all going to be saying "Merry Christmas" again' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Merry Christmas Bill, to you and yours. Yes, Merry Christmas to all. I can't bring myself to talk about this football mess led by Windbag Rex. Ho Ho Ho! Happy Holidays folks! (Sincerely) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) If Rex and staff are canned, what coaches are going to want to come year knowing they got one year leash? He has to get 2-3 years if only to put in his plan for the team. Not to be confused that I'm happy with what I've seen this year. BTW this past week had a 4 day vacation in NYC. NYC rocks for sure. Loved it there. More than Vegas for comparison Edited December 21, 2015 by MarkyMannn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) Regarding the HC being fired...again... I can't believe that I am at this point. With almost anyone else, I'd say that we need continuity into 2016, that we can't keep firing coaches but Rex sucks and it's not about the players. These things are on the coach: (1) Defense goes from 4 to 20s and our guy is a defensive "genius" (2) Penalties (3) No consequences for all the absurd player behavior on and off the field (lunatics run the asylum) (4) Massive underachieving season I assume he'll be back but it hurts. I hated Rex as the Jets coach. I actually now think he's a terrific guy but not a capable head coach. At all. I don't yearn for Marrone. Nor do I want Rex. All I want for Christmas is at least 2 good linebackers. Do the Bills have the worst linebackers in the NFL? Quick: name the Bills LB you like the most. Yeah, not so easy. Edited December 21, 2015 by Observer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevWarRifleman Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Good post. Its been so long since we've been above average. Now that it is officially over it is back to the drawing board. Decisions need to be made about next year about a bunch of different positions as well as on the coaching staff. Agree. This franchise is broken! Here we are with a couple of games left, and for the 16th time in a row, eliminated from playoff contention. I only watched a few minutes of the game and had to leave for other obligations. But what I saw was 3rd rate football. Different coaches makes no difference, high draft choices, free agents, nothing. During every summer, the organization rolls out yet another cliché battle cry, "lead the charge," " we're going to be the bullies", "we're not going to be out-worked" and on, and on, and on. Yet the end result is always the same. How can that be for 16 solid years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) Do you mean trying to run the ball up the middle with Shady at the goal line. My perception has always been that Roman must have been onboard with the Shady acquisition but I just don't see how Shady fit's what Roman wants to do......which is pound a defense with the running game. Roman wants to run the ball often and well. McCoy fits in very well with a team that wants to run. I don't see the problem with him fitting into Romans offense, he runs very well. Edited December 21, 2015 by klos63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 McKelvin continues to be a poor excuse for a football player. You'll know the Bills have improved when he's no longer around. Ditto Ryan as coach. I like Hogan but as others have mentioned previously, why does he leap when he doesn't have to? It cost us a major chunk of yardage today. Less than a yard to go for a TD and you continually attempt to run up the middle behind our immovable objects on the OL. Why? Darby really had a bad game. When Hughes, who never quits, has to be in pass coverage, something is desperately wrong. We need a stud middle linebacker and two offensive linemen who can run and pass block. Not going to Sammy regularly until mid-season was such a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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