buffaloboyinATL Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Clay was a big loss early in the game. after Rex's pre game talk about how he was going to get O'Leary involved in the game, it was strange not to see him at all after the injury. Was he even active? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 after Rex's pre game talk about how he was going to get O'Leary involved in the game, it was strange not to see him at all after the injury. Was he even active? He was out there, but I don't remember him being targeted even one time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Put Gilmore, Karlos, Aaron and Clay on IR now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Bummer. We need him for the playoff push. Someone had to say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) Boohoo. All teams have injuries. We don't need to sit here inventing reasons why the Bills have more injuries than other teams. We are not good enough. That's why there are no playoffs this year, and that's why we can't overcome our injuries. It has nothing to do with a poor training program. What poster's have such inside access that they know for a fact our conditioning program is to blame? That's just plain ridiculous. Edited December 15, 2015 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 If Pegula does anything this year, it's to hire real conditioning trainers, and not some retread weight lifting coaches. NFL needs to join the 21st century. Injuries are an unfortunate part of the game. I am frustrated like everyone else, we just need a season where we have some good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Christ, this is the most injury-plagued season I can ever remember. That includes 2007, when there were so many injuries they had to sign a WR they cut in camp to play strong safety. If you are talking about George Wilson, he actually worked out pretty well, all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 How many man hours have the Bills lost compared to the rest of the league? How many of these injuries are of the soft tissue variety vs bone breaks? Ligament & tendon damage can be prevented with different conditioning techniques. Just watch Clay's pilates episode. It was shocking to me how stiff he was and I'm guessing most of these players are like him or worse. Football isa high strength highly explosive sport. To be both of those things, you need to be tight to be that explosive at a high level in this sport. That said I think football/the NFL does a poor job. I've seen these guys lift in person. Technically it's poor, with really heavy weights. I know guys who work in high level physiology (international competition) who all pretty much agree the NFL is full of the B team guys in regard to sport, and are considered meatheads. Think rubber band. You want to flick one across the room, or use it for a "slingshot". What produces the greatest distance/speed/power. Brand new rubber band, out of the box, not the one that has been keeping together your mail or pencils. Conversely, being looser related to better endurance and aerobic capacity, but significantly lesser max power output and explosiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 @caplannfl: On #Bills TE Charles Clay (back), injury is not considered serious, source said, but he's still being evaluated. Even not serious can be season ending given our current situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 If Pegula does anything this year, it's to hire real conditioning trainers, and not some retread weight lifting coaches. NFL needs to join the 21st century. Ah hah, another conspiracy theory on the Bills training staff; do you happen to have any shred of linkage between the Bills' injuries and the quality of their trainers/conditioning staff. You (and many others on TBD) conveniently ignore the increase of injuries every year. Football is a game played by men who are bigger,stronger, and faster with each passing year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Football isa high strength highly explosive sport. To be both of those things, you need to be tight to be that explosive at a high level in this sport. That said I think football/the NFL does a poor job. I've seen these guys lift in person. Technically it's poor, with really heavy weights. I know guys who work in high level physiology (international competition) who all pretty much agree the NFL is full of the B team guys in regard to sport, and are considered meatheads. Think rubber band. You want to flick one across the room, or use it for a "slingshot". What produces the greatest distance/speed/power. Brand new rubber band, out of the box, not the one that has been keeping together your mail or pencils. Conversely, being looser related to better endurance and aerobic capacity, but significantly lesser max power output and explosiveness. You cannot be serious right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Weight training increases bone strength. Bills definitely seem to have a slightly higher injury rate than most teams. Actually weight training increases bone density. Since you are claiming weight training increases bone "strength", are you suggesting the Bills have a lower rate of fractures? There have been zero Bills out with fractures this year. They "definitely seem" to have a slightly higher injury rate? Where is your data? Actually, what are you trying to say ?? You cannot be serious right now? LOTS of wannabe MDs and athletic trainers on this Board; don't quit your day jobs guys If Pegula does anything this year, it's to hire real conditioning trainers, and not some retread weight lifting coaches. NFL needs to join the 21st century. how can you say this without even knowing the type of injury Clay has? Ignorance is bliss ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Football isa high strength highly explosive sport. To be both of those things, you need to be tight to be that explosive at a high level in this sport. That said I think football/the NFL does a poor job. I've seen these guys lift in person. Technically it's poor, with really heavy weights. I know guys who work in high level physiology (international competition) who all pretty much agree the NFL is full of the B team guys in regard to sport, and are considered meatheads. Think rubber band. You want to flick one across the room, or use it for a "slingshot". What produces the greatest distance/speed/power. Brand new rubber band, out of the box, not the one that has been keeping together your mail or pencils. Conversely, being looser related to better endurance and aerobic capacity, but significantly lesser max power output and explosiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Ah hah, another conspiracy theory on the Bills training staff; do you happen to have any shred of linkage between the Bills' injuries and the quality of their trainers/conditioning staff. You (and many others on TBD) conveniently ignore the increase of injuries every year. Football is a game played by men who are bigger,stronger, and faster with each passing year. And yet some teams manage to stay healthier than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Long term, 6-10 is much better than 9-7 Neither one gets you the playoffs anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I do recall last year Marrone complaining how out of touch our training staff was. As they say, where's the smoke there's fire. Having said that, didn't Carpenter get some award last year, outstanding training staff or something?? Right, because we are the only team in the NFL that suffered injuries this year so that will help. Do you know the Bills training staff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 And yet some teams manage to stay healthier than others. please provide data, otherwise it's pure speculation. I do recall last year Marrone complaining how out of touch our training staff was. As they say, where's the smoke there's fire. Having said that, didn't Carpenter get some award last year, outstanding training staff or something?? another very conclusive suggestion - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 No question. After which I'll be excited to see the perennial pro bowlers who are picked right before the Bills selection in April. Worse are the Pro Bowlers picked right AFTER the Bills picks! Either way it hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 please provide data, otherwise it's pure speculation. another very conclusive suggestion - Google is your friend, and this isn't even an all inclusive list. Pretty high correlation between teams with many names on this list and losing records. Of course the Pats* are the exception that proves the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Which means get ready for a 3 game winning streak. Pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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