NOVABillsFan

wasn't it 10 games in 2013 (4-6 record) and 4 in 2014 (2-2 record) totaling 14 games?

look If you want to discuss things fine. If you want to argue for the sake of argument then I ask you most kindly Stop. For the record YES, EJ had a horrible 2 INT's and 1 fumble against the Jags. I don't argue that. FACT the Bills led by EJ overcame those early mistakes to take a 31 to 27 lead scoring 18 points in the 4th QTR and then the defense failed to stop the JAGS from retaking the lead. Also Shady fumbled the ball 4 yards short of a TD taking 3 to 7 points off of the board. http://espn.go.com/nfl/game?gameId=400761515 Tyrod had 2 INTs that allowed the Pats to take a 37 to 13 lead before scoring 19 points in the 4th QTR that fell way short with an INT 40-32 with 1:15 left on the clock. http://espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=400791664

facts don't matter. no matter what every loss is on the backup. I am aware of that. But that wasn't my point. WINS AND LOSSES. Does it matter what the stats are if the team wins more than loses? Since you insist - How many passes were thrown by the rookie and now 4 year Vet? Why are you not discussing that horrible NE game by Tyrod? Because he rallied 19 points in the 4th? Guess what look who else rallied the team late in the JAX game. You are more than willing to criticize the backup but not the starter. Why is that when the backup isn't challenging the starter? Actually don't answer. Merry Christmas. My wish is that people end the silliness.

Why do you guys insist on trashing the backup? If you insist on pointing to the Jags game why not revisit the multiple INT game by TT in the first NE game where he also couldn't pull the team out of the large hole he dug. Same result was it not? Please put it behind you. You will feel better for it

I debated if I should respond to the continuing discussion because Taylor fans are getting upset because of some criticism. We all agree the Defense was much worse than last season. For the Season - 5 games of 14 the opponents scored more than 25 points. 7 games the Bills scored under the average of 24, 3 of which were 10, 13, and 14. Much like last season there were too way many 3 and outs on offense. When you can eliminate those, sustain drives and force good field position the defense stays off of the field. I may be wrong but IIRC, the offense in 2013 was ranked about 6 points higher (scored more PPG on avg?) than it did in 2014.

other than it can't get worse Why? wait actually it can.

LOL Funny that. The QB gets credit for wins yet the team gets credit for losses. [edit unless his name is EJ] You do know that the QB touches the ball 98% of every offensive snap right. Therefore the onus is on him to succeed, to make the right reads and get the play going before he gets a delay of game penalty. Curious.. How many delay of game penalties have the Bills accumulated this season? (w/o communication equipment problems)

Have I ever said that the backup should be the starter over TT?? The answer to that is no, I have not. > Please don't use the single post where I had said EJ could finish out the last 2 games so the Bills can showcase him for trade value as proof I said otherwise. IMHO Taylor needs to improve. Period. Thanks for exchanging thoughts.

For clarity sake and not to argue this point. Passing Attempts of 30 or more (Tyrod Taylor stats page) http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TaylTy00.htm NE #1 - 30 Giants - 42 NE #2 - 36 KC - 38 Phi - 36 Let me try to spell it out for you. WINS and LOSSES Stats don't mean **** when the L's are equal to or greater than W's.

I must be missing some sarcasm here. > TT only looked bad in the Giants game and good in the other 11 games he started? <

these are some of the things I have noted. Beyond whatever play Roman dials up, you can't blame the OC for the Offense standing there mulling around for 15-20 seconds. It is as if they don't have a 2 minute package in the playbook.

Whatever happens I hope they don't go rogue and fire everyone without giving it a lot of thought.

which one of the dozen Last post wins threads is that again?

I thought I asked "How much of the $4.75 million wasted on Cassel"? I was curious what the cost was in the end. My apologizes if I cited a poor example.

It's funny how one guy with potential is great after 14 games yet the other guy plainly sucks when the two are very close together in the big picture. There is a huge difference here as I see it. I am critical of TT but I have yet to call him a failure, I also would be critical of EJ if he were playing (which he is not). On the other hand many say EJ is a failure. Now I ask you. Who really is the "hater"?