YoloinOhio Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I like Mario but think we probably let him walk. Bradham gone too I imagine. Bring in a slew of LBs that better fit the scheme. Mario isn't a FA. By letting him walk... Do you mean cutting him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) Mario Williams was very effective when he has a decent DC and defensive scheme. Â you cant expect your most influential pass rusher to do his job when the scheme is forcing him to drop into coverage. Â how is this on Mario? last season vs this season. ONE important element has changed, and it isn't Mario. Â Rex's approach and scheme are bad, not Mario. Edited December 4, 2015 by 87168 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) Drop Mario. Sign Stafford. You know, a QB who can get it to one of the best WR's in the game. Draft a DE. Mario's production is equal to that of a rookie DE at this point. Mario Williams was very effective when he has a decent DC and defensive scheme. Â you cant expect your most influential pass rusher to do his job when the scheme is forcing him to drop into coverage. Â how is this on Mario? last season vs this season. ONE important element has changed, and it isn't Mario. Â Rex's approach and scheme are bad, not Mario. Â this is also a good point. But the question is: if we keep Rex, what do we do. In that case, cut Mario. Â Personally I think the best move is to can Rex, and get Hue Jackson in here with Schwartz. Because retooling all the players to fit Rex's "scheme," whatever that is, will take longer and cost more than canning Rex. Edited December 4, 2015 by RyanC883 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) I suspect that Mario will be a cap casualty. Maybe this offseason, maybe next. Restructuring his contact in the usual way makes very little sense. Restructuring is generally something a team does to free up cap space in the near-term at the expense of future year cap hits. Converting salary into a signing bonus and extending the contract, for example. That usually makes it more difficult to cut such a player for a few years however. It makes very little sense to do that on the contract of a player whose play is falling off and who isn't living up to his current cap hit. Restructuring can also mean a pay cut, but I don't see Mario accepting that. I'm sure he'd rather be cut and possibly overpaid somewhere else. Â Gilmore is a prime candidate for a new contract. Next season is his option year so the Bills can lower his hit for next season by giving him a new, long-term deal. That also prevents any free agency or tag issues next season. Edited December 4, 2015 by BarleyNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmd07 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I'm waiting for Rex to say "I think she will play Sunday" Thought was him once talking about an injured Jet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I know we all long for the days of watching IK try to stop the run and set the edge.  Maybe Kelsay can come out of retirment and try to cover TE's   Be careful what you wish for.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I will say this....if Rex truly did drop what we were doing last year and go to a 3-4....  Marcel is not a nose.....he is a DE in a 3-4 scheme (and frankly could be a very good one  We need a NOSE TACKLE....one was actually picked up this week...I am interested in seeing how much he plays  I still think Mario can play DE in a 3-4  It takes time to transition.....and we truly dont have the LB's for it  Which is part of the problem.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I know we all long for the days of watching IK try to stop the run and set the edge.  Maybe Kelsay can come out of retirment and try to cover TE's  Be careful what you wish for.... No wishing here. Just trying to be realistic about the situation. Obviously losing Mario would leave a very big hole to fill. I don't think doubling down on him at this point in his career is the answer though. He may very well be on the team next season, but I think a new contract would be a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 If no one else wants him, they should make him the highest paid D player in the league... Â Worked once, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Drop Mario. Sign Stafford. You know, a QB who can get it to one of the best WR's in the game. Draft a DE. Mario's production is equal to that of a rookie DE at this point. Â Â this is also a good point. But the question is: if we keep Rex, what do we do. In that case, cut Mario. Â Personally I think the best move is to can Rex, and get Hue Jackson in here with Schwartz. Because retooling all the players to fit Rex's "scheme," whatever that is, will take longer and cost more than canning Rex. Yep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I'm waiting for Rex to say "I think she will play Sunday" Thought was him once talking about an injured Jet. Parcells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Hope we can restructure him. If he becomes a FA, a lot of teams may not be willing to pay him the big bucks because of age, injury, and decreased production concerns. So perhaps he'll agree to stay put and free up some money under the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 EVidently he was grumbling with reporters again today about scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Dear Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 It sounds like he doesn't like playing for Rex or maybe it's Thurman. Why would he restructure and stay unless maybe Pettine is fired and decides to reunite with Rex. Rex hasn't has a good D since Pettine left his staff so maybe it would make sense. I doubt it happens but one can hope. This is the least hopefull I've been in the future of this franchise since the Dick Jauron days. We are literally going to blow up our D because the coaches only know how to do it their way. So stupid. The good coaches fit the scheme to the players. Hope we can restructure him. If he becomes a FA, a lot of teams may not be willing to pay him the big bucks because of age, injury, and decreased production concerns. So perhaps he'll agree to stay put and free up some money under the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Hope not....bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 @TyDunne Mario on wanting to be set loose: "That's already been said a long time ago. That whole big deal... It's been pretty much the same thing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Hope not....bust. Â Â Yeah, total bust that has averaged 13 sacks/year for us up until this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 IIRC when Mario signed here it was part of the agreement that he would play 4-3 DE on the left side. He did not want anything to do with a 3-4 when he came here. Â I can't say I fault him for being upset now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midland Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I think he becomes a victim of the salary cap, and either due to the new defensive or his play not earning that big of a contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I think he is gone. I would rather the two sides figure something out that works for the Bills and Mario. IF however Rex doesn't think he needs Mario due to what he wants from his front 7, then the Bills have to cut him. Money can be spent on LB's and Oline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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