TheFunPolice Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I was listening to Jason Taylor on Sirius NFL Radio today and a Bills fan called in and asked about Rex and his D. Taylor said that of all the coaches he ever had, it took him the longest period of time, most work, and most study to figure out what he was supposed to do in Rex's D. It was an enormous adjustment and it is extremely complicated. Eventually he got it but it took some time. This meshes with things other guys have said about Rex's defense: it's complicated, relies on a ton of new terms and communication, as well as a bunch of unique concepts. At first it's very difficult to grasp. But eventually once the players get it things start clicking. I think this is what we are seeing with this D. Rex did not forget how to coach defense. The DL did not forget how to pass rush. It's just going to take some time for this thing to start humming. BTW, that vaunted Schwartz defense got shredded by Brady and couldn't stop the Raiders when it mattered too. Let's not pretend that last year's defense was some sort of iron curtain. I still believe in Rex and I EXPECT to see the defense improve tremendously over the 2nd half of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomcat Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I also believe the offense will be "getting it" as well in Romans system. I might be drinking the Kool Aid though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS 56 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Interesting take. I hope you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 It makes sense.... Rex didn't suddenly forget how to coach defense. Also, I distinctly remember a MNF "showdown" with the Jets vs the Patriots* a few years back The Patriots* creamed them and won like 45-10 or something like that. Rex was a joke then too. A few weeks later the teams met in the playoffs and the Jets won in Foxborough, pretty much shutting down the Pats* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Thanks for this…some promising insight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 well they better have gotten it this week cause they need to go on a run we haven't seen in many years...like 5 straight wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInDaDay Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) maybe Rex should have added to his remark about making the playoffs, with "if the defense can execute my new system before we find ourselves eliminated" edit - look.. Ryan's never been a 'complete' football coach.. the delegation of offensive responsibilities to his staff leaves him with little to put his stamp on. so there's no way he wasn't going to change our D this season.. but like a lot of people, i'm surprised it's been such a steep learning curve. something tells me that if he emerged from a hot tub time machine and found himself replacing Ditka in '86 - he would have his father tweek that D to his liking. Edited November 4, 2015 by BackInDaDay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 We can only hope.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Just win baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 We can only hope.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 That's fine. But it is widely believed that Rex is a brilliant defensive coach and that the Bills have tremendous talent on defense. So, why can't Rex simplify the scheme to take advantage of our great players on a weekly basis and build upon that simplified scheme over time? Puking everything at the players and blaming them for not grasping the concepts seems ill advised and misguided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I was listening to Jason Taylor on Sirius NFL Radio today and a Bills fan called in and asked about Rex and his D. Taylor said that of all the coaches he ever had, it took him the longest period of time, most work, and most study to figure out what he was supposed to do in Rex's D. It was an enormous adjustment and it is extremely complicated. Eventually he got it but it took some time. This meshes with things other guys have said about Rex's defense: it's complicated, relies on a ton of new terms and communication, as well as a bunch of unique concepts. At first it's very difficult to grasp. But eventually once the players get it things start clicking. I think this is what we are seeing with this D. Rex did not forget how to coach defense. The DL did not forget how to pass rush. It's just going to take some time for this thing to start humming. BTW, that vaunted Schwartz defense got shredded by Brady and couldn't stop the Raiders when it mattered too. Let's not pretend that last year's defense was some sort of iron curtain. I still believe in Rex and I EXPECT to see the defense improve tremendously over the 2nd half of the season. No, everything should work from day 1 damn it...new HC, OC, and DC (which is really the HC), new QB, New RB, new systems, etc...no reason this shouldn't be plug and play.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lv-Bills Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I'm usually pessimistic about the Bills. As a season ticket holder from Virginia that has to drive home 9 hours after 15 years of losing, you think pretty clearly about how ****ty the Bills really are, especially in the last 10-14 years under Ralph Wilson. That being said, I'm still good with where we are now. I still think we found a QB that can play. Rex did not just forget how to coach defense. And when healthy, we have a darn good offensive roster around Tyrod. I think if we are truly getting healthy, that we can still turn it around, and that we have a good team. Whether or not we've dug ourselves a hole too big, I don't know. But I think we are legit if we can get most of our guys back and healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I'm usually pessimistic about the Bills. As a season ticket holder from Virginia that has to drive home 9 hours after 15 years of losing, you think pretty clearly about how ****ty the Bills really are, especially in the last 10-14 years under Ralph Wilson. That being said, I'm still good with where we are now. I still think we found a QB that can play. Rex did not just forget how to coach defense. And when healthy, we have a darn good offensive roster around Tyrod. I think if we are truly getting healthy, that we can still turn it around, and that we have a good team. Whether or not we've dug ourselves a hole too big, I don't know. But I think we are legit if we can get most of our guys back and healthy. give me a PM when you need someone to ride up with you and split some driving! No plans for the Texans game yet, but i have two tickets that have not sold as of yet.sooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blzrul Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 the playoff tickets are expensive anyway, maybe next year is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 No, everything should work from day 1 damn it...new HC, OC, and DC (which is really the HC), new QB, New RB, new systems, etc...no reason this shouldn't be plug and play.... I guess count me in as one of the ones that thought it would click on defense right away. I thought it was a match made in heaven and that making our defense at least as good as last year wouldn't be a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInDaDay Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Rex's philosophy being applied to heavy metal - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 There's absolutely no question that some of the defenders are still adjusting to the scheme. They're a step slow reacting to what's going on out there. I think that they'll pick it up; I'm just not sure it'll happen soon enough to save this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I'd like to know how different Mike Pettine's defense was than this one. My gut reaction reaction is that he may have brought pressure more often but I doubt that it was that much different in scheme, depth or terminology from what he ran under Rex for the NYJs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I had posted Taylor's comments in a couple threads, but glad they got their own thread... Let's just hope that he's right - it's not a giant shocker, I remember in the old NFL when it used to take time for new coaches systems to work and players to learn the game. I too was hoping for plug and play, but sometimes things aren't that easy. Regarding "just make it more simple", maybe there is no way to make it truly simple? In fact maybe Rex already has dumbed it down a couple notches, but it's STILL tough to get? Who knows, but obviously Rex didn't just forget how to coach and the players didn't forget how to play - each group just needs to get those things working together! ASAP!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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