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Mental illness is such a cop out in this one. If he's mentally ill then we might as well say the same exact thing for every single murder out there. This isn't someone shooting up a random movie theater or a school. This is a guy going after a very specific target that he had a history with.

 

It's not a "cop out." You're confusing "explaining" with "excusing."

 

It's almost certain he was mentally ill (the correlation of suicide to mental illness is almost 1.0 - never lower than .95 in any study I've seen. Even including situations were someone kills themselves rather than face the authorities). That observation in no way absolves him of guilt. Mentally ill people are just as responsible for their actions as anyone else.

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It's not a "cop out." You're confusing "explaining" with "excusing."

 

It's almost certain he was mentally ill (the correlation of suicide to mental illness is almost 1.0 - never lower than .95 in any study I've seen. Even including situations were someone kills themselves rather than face the authorities). That observation in no way absolves him of guilt. Mentally ill people are just as responsible for their actions as anyone else.

 

This guy knew exactly what he was doing. He had a F*(*& go pro attached to his head. He pointed the gun at the reporter and the camerman for a good minute before opening fire. It was almost as if he wanted the reporter to look at him as he shot her. He then uploaded this to an online social media site for billions to see.

 

and someone is trying to tell me, he may not have known what he was doing?

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I have no desire to help his mental illness.

 

Why is he automatically deemed mentally ill? Cant he just be a really sh**** person who deserves to die.

 

Because it's never the right thing to do, to not try to save a dying human's life.

 

I disagree with this, completely.

Whoa, the GoPro video...

absolutely sickening, I am kind of mad at myself for watching it. You can tell from the video she was the primary target.

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Why is he automatically deemed mentally ill? Cant he just be a really sh**** person who deserves to die.

 

 

I didn't say he was. I have no idea I don't know him from Adam. It was my response to Fadingpain saying him rotting his prison will not help his mental illness.

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I didn't say he was. I have no idea I don't know him from Adam. It was my response to Fadingpain saying him rotting his prison will not help his mental illness.

Could have worded it better, wasn't directed at you. More of a general question. Everytime there is a shooting, bam shooter is mentally ill.

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Why is he automatically deemed mentally ill? Cant he just be a really sh**** person who deserves to die.

 

I disagree with this, completely.

absolutely sickening, I am kind of mad at myself for watching it. You can tell from the video she was the primary target.

 

 

I agree. Same here I feel so sick now

 

 

 

CBF

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Showed the GoPro video to my wife. She asked to see it. Here was her response:

 

Several things:

I'm surprised he got so close, gun in plain sight, and no one noticed;
It's a glock;
She did a lot of moving around before she (evidently) went down;
We need hollow points

 

We take our home invasion course this weekend.

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It's not a "cop out." You're confusing "explaining" with "excusing."

 

It's almost certain he was mentally ill (the correlation of suicide to mental illness is almost 1.0 - never lower than .95 in any study I've seen. Even including situations were someone kills themselves rather than face the authorities). That observation in no way absolves him of guilt. Mentally ill people are just as responsible for their actions as anyone else.

 

The bold is exactly what I think this one was. Who knows though. Just once I'd like to actually hear the real story behind one of these scenarios.

 

And as for the study data you're mentioning, what exactly is the definition of "mental illness" there? It's starting to feel like a very broad term that catches just about everything. The numbers your stating aren't really possible as I'm sure there are plenty of mentally ill who do not commit suicide, but I realize that you're trying to say there.

 

 

edit: And someone at work was just watching the news footage multiple times on their computer without headphones. Some people aren't too bright.

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/shooting-alleged-gunman-details-grievances-suicide-notes/story?id=33336339

 

 

In the 23-page document faxed to ABC News, the writer says “MY NAME IS BRYCE WILLIAMS” and his legal name is Vester Lee Flanagan II” He writes what triggered today’s carnage was his reaction to the racism of the Charleston church shooting:

“Why did I do it? I put down a deposit for a gun on 6/19/15. The Church shooting in Charleston happened on 6/17/15…”

“What sent me over the top was the church shooting. And my hollow point bullets have the victims’ initials on them."

 

#alllivesmatter

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Who in the heck names their child: Vester Lee.

 

I am not defending the creep, but there had to be 41 years of torment.

 

Like Pooj said about names. Throw a middle name Harvey in there and you also got trouble.

 

So freaking sad.

 

Guns yeah! No, guns boo! Not that guns are the real issue. But, what's the final solution? Everybody packing like the Old West?

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holy crap

 

in this sort of underground belly of the world, it is popular online, there is a lot of praise of Cho. Talk from people about "beating Cho's score" and such are very popular. Of course, they want to praise Breivik and beat his 77 kills.

 

It is almost like these socially awkward, dejected and socially rejected people approach their moment as a video game. They see society as the fault for their inadequacies.

 

http://www.youtube.com/verify_controversy?next_url=/watch%3Fv%3DMQUW3Km01BM

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Holy sh*t!!

 

I'm guessing we aren't going to see any protests that "white lives matter" after this.

This guy knew what he was doing and who he was targeting. This was racially motivated among other things but I'm sure the media won't be discussing race on this one!

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