BarleyNY Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 On 7/29/2015 at 12:06 AM, mitchmurraydowntown said: This is great news. Yes, it is.
3rdand12 Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 On 7/29/2015 at 12:29 AM, BarleyNY said: Yes, it is. agreed
Jamie Nails Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 So Williams and Hunter gone before camp starts. Figure an OL signing has to be forthcoming.
BuffaloMatt Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Never let it be said that I do not acknowledge when I am wrong. Not sure which thread I proclaimed Williams would be back with a vengeance after a years rest and surgery. Well I really nailed that one! Can't hit a home run every time. F Brady!
hondo in seattle Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 On 7/28/2015 at 9:33 PM, John from Hemet said: By the way.....I adore Doug Whaley...... BUT You are 0 for 2 on free agent offensive linemen.......you draft like a genious.....but someone else needs to handle the free agent offensive linemen I'm too lazy to look it up but wasn't a Whaley a pro personnel guy at Pittsburgh? But I'm not throwing Whaley under the bus. Everyone swings and misses sometimes. All player moves are calculated risks with a chance of failure. I'm hoping with Incognito, Whaley will improve to 1 for 3.
Lurker Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 On 7/29/2015 at 1:34 AM, hondo in seattle said: I'm hoping with Incognito, Whaley will improve to 1 for 3. The only certainty is that 80% of the people who liked the Incognito signing will slag Whaley's evaluation skills if Richie doesn't come through. Not many mirrors around when players don't live up to expectations...
Rob's House Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 On 7/28/2015 at 9:53 PM, BuffaloBillsForever said: Even the casual Bills fan pegged chris williams correctly that he sucked prior to signing. Whaley went full derp on this one. There was never going to be a boom though. The casual fan saw his PFF rating from the prior year and knew nothing more. Plus, he was derailed by injury, which wasn't part of the casual fan's assessment. The casual fan didn't know ****.
YoloinOhio Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) I think we are all missing the most important significance of this. We are now down to 6 total Williams, and 1 is a udfa DE. Could be 5 soon, and the number of "Browns" is starting to close in with 3. Edited July 29, 2015 by YoloinOhio
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 On 7/28/2015 at 10:41 PM, 3rdand12 said: Gotta give Chris credit right there! Not sure i agree JR, i think this was a Whaley thing. 1st round pick needs a new environment and Marrone was a genius O line Coordinator coach obviously. What could go wrong? You probably are right. I can't recall our efforts to get a FA guard and what the market was like.
fansince88 Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 On 7/28/2015 at 11:46 PM, klos63 said: Many fans B word about any signing, sometimes they will be correct. Did these fans have a better option? Obviously the players behind him on the depth chart were pretty awful.
GG Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 On 7/29/2015 at 1:52 AM, Rob's House said: The casual fan saw his PFF rating from the prior year and knew nothing more. Plus, he was derailed by injury, which wasn't part of the casual fan's assessment. The casual fan didn't know ****. Yeah, but more than a casual fan saw the PFF grade and also knew he was a washout 1st round pick and his second team wasn't in the bidding for him to come back as a premium FA. They were willing to bring him back at the vet minimum or slightly above, which is where his true value was.
John from Riverside Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 I will say it again I did not see OG that was aweful when he was healthy......I actually thought he played like a low tier starter.......and you really saw it when he went down but His injury history has to be brought into consideration here......and Chris had a loooooong injury history He wasnt even going to start on this team.....they love John Miller too much
Formerly Allan in MD Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 On 7/28/2015 at 9:33 PM, John from Hemet said: By the way.....I adore Doug Whaley...... BUT You are 0 for 2 on free agent offensive linemen.......you draft like a genious.....but someone else needs to handle the free agent offensive linemen Incognito?
John from Riverside Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 On 7/29/2015 at 2:41 AM, Formerly Allan in MD said: Incognito? Jury's still out....
NickelCity Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 On 7/28/2015 at 9:49 PM, KollegeStudnet said: Boom or Bust pick up, ended up being a bust. However, it was a great pickup at the time. It was? I thought it was an abysmal signing at the time as did many on here and virtually all media coverage.
BarleyNY Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 On 7/29/2015 at 3:00 AM, John from Hemet said: Jury's still out.... And a different situation. Incognito is on a vet minimum, one-year deal. Still a problem if he doesn't play well, but not nearly the same cap risk.
3rdand12 Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) On 7/29/2015 at 2:02 AM, JR in Pittsburgh said: You probably are right. I can't recall our efforts to get a FA guard and what the market was like. I honestly dont recall either. but i was not thrilled with the Williams pick up. Or how the line was handled pre season. then it just got worse. This year is probably the most hopeful one since Levitre and Chas Rhiengold left On 7/29/2015 at 11:02 AM, BarleyNY said: And a different situation. Incognito is on a vet minimum, one-year deal. Still a problem if he doesn't play well, but not nearly the same cap risk. Right! Williams was treated( paid) as a dependable starter Edited July 29, 2015 by 3rdand12
The Poojer Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 On 7/28/2015 at 9:33 PM, John from Hemet said: By the way.....I adore Doug Whaley...... BUT You are 0 for 2 on free agent offensive linemen.......you draft like a genious.....but someone else needs to handle the free agent offensive linemen
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