RyanC883 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Well... Philly can certainly afford to pay him more...But will anyone? TBH I did not think he was worth more than about $3.5-$4 mil per year... I can't see Philly paying him this much. I bet they go after AP or Murray or Ingram . The Jets will overpay him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Well... Philly can certainly afford to pay him more...But will anyone? TBH I did not think he was worth more than about $3.5-$4 mil per year... I can't see Spiller in Philly. Everything I have heard today was Chip was frustrated that Shady danced to much east and west and did not hit the designed holes. Sounds familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Wow. Not surprised by the offer but a little surprised by the fact he turned it down. Will he get 5m a year on another team? Maybe. Probably not though. 4-5m i guess is his range. I suspect what could have happened was, his agent advised "Let's hold out a little longer and see if we can get 5 or 5.5" and then the Bills got the call from Philly and pulled the trigger on Shady. Spiller was always going to test free agency and has said as much. The Bills made a fair offer, perhaps even more than fair given his lack of production the last couple of years in particular. When they heard his counter they moved on. I am very pleased to see the Bills acting decisively and agreesively in filling their holes. Spiller seemed shocked on NFL network last night but I am not sure why. Were they supposed to wait for him to go shopping and then come back? I suspect he will end up with little or nothing more than the Bills offered to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Spiller was always going to test free agency and has said as much. The Bills made a fair offer, perhaps even more than fair given his lack of production the last couple of years in particular. When they heard his counter they moved on. I am very pleased to see the Bills acting decisively and agreesively in filling their holes. Spiller seemed shocked on NFL network last night but I am not sure why. Were they supposed to wait for him to go shopping and then come back? I suspect he will end up with little or nothing more than the Bills offered to begin with. The Bills were not planning on going after McCoy, he fell into their laps. Spiller wanted to sign with the Bills but he and his agent thought he could get more. The Eagles called the Bills about McCoy, one of the top backs in the league, and they said "Hell, yeah!" It came out of nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 The Bills were not planning on going after McCoy, he fell into their laps. Spiller wanted to sign with the Bills but he and his agent thought he could get more. The Eagles called the Bills about McCoy, one of the top backs in the league, and they said "Hell, yeah!" It came out of nowhere. This is what seems to have happened, I agree. I was watching NFLN last night when it was announced and CJ did look surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Wow, talk about overplaying your card. He must have listened to Doug "Quitter" Marrone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 He must have listened to Doug "Quitter" Marrone He said on NFLN that he consulted Jar-i-us Byrd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I like Spiller. I love Kiko. That is a good question and a hard one to answer. But McCoy is a star player, and I'm a firm believer in you cannot win anything in any sport without star players. Without Bradham and Brown, I would say Spiller and Kiko. But Bradham is almost as good as Kiko. He could be a pro bowler in a couple years in this defense. I'm not sure where Kiko plays (although Kiko is excellent in pass coverage). Bradham is better in some ways, not as good in others. That's a really good take. I think another factor is Shady is the type of player who doesn't look twice at Buffalo if he were to hit the open market. I have a lot more faith in defensive guys buying into Rex and signing here than I do offensive guys. Realistically, short of us giving him an insane deal, I don't think DeMarco Murray would give us the time of day, and he's the only offensive FA I think could have a Shady type impact on our offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Big surprise there- I had him pegged around 4m. We will see! There are a couple of teams (Oakland, Jax and perhaps Cleveland) with HUGE amounts of cap room. And, I heard this is the year of the cap "floor" where teams must spend a minimum amount. This changes things imo. The Giants used the franchise tag (14.4 mil.) on JPP. I thought that was crazy but maybe someone would have offered him that much. I consider Spiller to be a 2 million dollar or so gadget player, but maybe a team such as Jax will offer him his 5 mil. I doubt it but it is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Is his agent Dougie Marrone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 There are a couple of teams (Oakland, Jax and perhaps Cleveland) with HUGE amounts of cap room. And, I heard this is the year of the cap "floor" where teams must spend a minimum amount. This changes things imo. The Giants used the franchise tag (14.4 mil.) on JPP. I thought that was crazy but maybe someone would have offered him that much. I consider Spiller to be a 2 million dollar or so gadget player, but maybe a team such as Jax will offer him his 5 mil. I doubt it but it is possible. This is true. I expect we're about to see some real head scratching contract offers in the next week. Part of the reason I want to go after Revis, get in quick and give him his ~$17 mil before guys like Byron Maxwell start getting $12 mil or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 No mention of how much was guaranteed means this is a pretty worthless report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 This is what seems to have happened, I agree. I was watching NFLN last night when it was announced and CJ did look surprised. Wait, CJ was on TV when the NFLN announced it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) CJ isnt an every down back. To expect more than that is crazy. But good luck to him. He can be successful in the right system as a change of pace guy. But he's not an every down back . . . to expect even that is crazy. NFL teams dont pay for potential anymore, unless you're a draft pick. "talented" or "underused" or "misused" dont cut it IF you have a WIN NOW mentality. I'm glad he didnt sign it. Edited March 4, 2015 by maddenboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Wait, CJ was on TV when the NFLN announced it?? Yup. It's painful to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Yup. It's painful to watch. Please tell me there's a link... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Wait, CJ was on TV when the NFLN announced it?? he was scheduled for interview and in the green room room when it broke and on screen moments later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) And, I heard this is the year of the cap "floor" where teams must spend a minimum amount. This changes things imo. i think we read the same article. But you're not quite right. The CAP FLOOR is for a 4 year period. And the article said that a few teams are not at "average" at this year, which is the half-way mark. So those teams have to spend more in the next 2 years in order to be sure they are at the floor by the end of the 4-year period. Also, if a team is not at the floor after 4 years, the team pays the difference to the NFLPA. Edited March 4, 2015 by maddenboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 Wait, CJ was on TV when the NFLN announced it?? He got a call from Whaley while in the the green room letting him know they were going in another direction. McCoy trade announced on air. It was truly awkward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negativo Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 So happy he's so stupid. Buh-bye EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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