negativo Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Bet he's regretting turning down that Bills offer now. He should fire his agent, because that was by far the best offer he'll get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share Posted March 10, 2015 Bet he's regretting turning down that Bills offer now. He should fire his agent, because that was by far the best offer he'll get.i found it insightful that the jets and dolphins said they weren't interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 On the NFLN ,think it was Ian, Dallas might be interested in CJ if they don't sign Murray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 @ProFootballTalk: Patriots inquire about C.J. Spiller http://t.co/qkqLUACQm4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) I always thought that the absolute most Spiller could get on the open market was $5M per season, and I thought that would be overpaying for his services. I think $4-$4.5M per year is fair for a team that has a defined plan for Spiller. And by defined, I mean a team who understands this is not a guy that can just take hand offs up the middle. I actually feel like he'd be a poor fit on the Cowboys. The Patriots make more sense to replace Shane Vereen, who was more of a scat back. I also believe that the Pats won't pay one penny over $3.5M per season for a scat back. If reports are true that Spiller turned down over $4.5M per year from the Bills he may soon realize that was a mistake financially. Edited March 11, 2015 by Estro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 So, you think he can carry the load there? Sorry for the slow response. No, I don't. I actually think he's a little fragile. I recall him getting hurt pretty badly in 2012 in the shoulder but gutting it out and coming back fairly quickly, only missing one game. There was the ankle in 2013 and the shoulder in 2014. That's three years in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 we all knew this was coming Patriots inquire about C.J. Spiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 we all knew this was coming Patriots inquire about C.J. Spiller Good! They deserve some bad luck!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 The Pats weren't turned off by his fumble right before halftime that gift wrapped a FG to them at the Ralph last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 The Pats weren't turned off by his fumble right before halftime that gift wrapped a FG to them at the Ralph last season? Didn't he fumble in our own red zone on the first play of the first game against the Pats in 2013? They must love him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 The Pats weren't turned off by his fumble right before halftime that gift wrapped a FG to them at the Ralph last season? They probably enjoyed his 3 career 100 yard from scrimmage games against them. Belichick probably thinks Marrone/ Hackett were clowns. They designed gameplans not to throw Watkins the ball. They believe he could be a much better weapon for them than he was here. IMO, this would be bad for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaSnow Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 The Pats weren't turned off by his fumble right before halftime that gift wrapped a FG to them at the Ralph last season? Yeah, but in all fairness, that was with a fully inflated football. That's an apples and oranges comparison for them, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Yeah, but in all fairness, that was with a fully inflated football. That's an apples and oranges comparison for them, I think. The Pats can fix any RB's fumbling problems. I always wondered how those no-name WR's for the Pats could make some of those catches too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 They probably enjoyed his 3 career 100 yard from scrimmage games against them. Belichick probably thinks Marrone/ Hackett were clowns. They designed gameplans not to throw Watkins the ball. They believe he could be a much better weapon for them than he was here. IMO, this would be bad for the Bills. The Pats* can't create the one thing CJ lacks...vision. As long as our D-line stays healthy and Bradham/Brown are patrolling I'm not concerned about any RB going off on the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I imagine he's going to be damned successful on that team. I hate to wish injury, but hopefully his fragility continues for our sakes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 They probably enjoyed his 3 career 100 yard from scrimmage games against them. Belichick probably thinks Marrone/ Hackett were clowns. They designed gameplans not to throw Watkins the ball. They believe he could be a much better weapon for them than he was here. IMO, this would be bad for the Bills. i don't know... Bill seems to loathe RBs who can't hang onto the ball. And is he really going to pay him the 5+ mill/yr he wants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Good! They deserve some bad luck!!! Gotham Bill, I guarantee it that if the Pats acquire CJ he will be used in a more effective manner than the way Bills used him. You don't think that catching swing passes from Brady or even short downfield passes will result in a number of big plays? You have had the mistaken notion that just because Spiller is not a workhorse back (was not drafted to be that kind of back) that his talents can't be exploited. CJ Spiller has similar talents to Darren Spoles, a player that wherever he has gone (SD, New Orleans and Philly) has consistently made big plays. Just because the Bills have not been smart about using his unique skill set that doesn't mean that smarter and more successful organizations will be similarly dumb. If CJ ends up with the Pats or Cowboys and has an impactful year you will be the first in a long line lamenting why he couldn't have done the same good things for this western NY francise. You were very wrong in your assessment on Gilmore (I'm aware you changed your stance) and you are wrong on your view of Spiller. Time will tell but I am confident in my long standing position. To be honest with you I am glad that he is no longer a Bill and is on the open market. He has been liberated from the shackles of foolishness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 The Pats can fix any RB's fumbling problems. I always wondered how those no-name WR's for the Pats could make some of those catches too. it is linked to one of the deflated ball theories. lets see if I can recall it properly Since Tom Brady petitioned the NFL for each teams to control their owns balls during the game and succeeded, AND petitioned the NFL to lower football PSI(?) with Manning back circa 2006 The Patriots have had the FEWEST fumbles in the NFL http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/01/27/study-questions-what-behind-patriots-low-fumble-rate/ayCrAx6WYoU9NjWLALiQ0H/story.html Study questions what’s behind Patriots’ low fumble rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 i don't know... Bill seems to loathe RBs who can't hang onto the ball. And is he really going to pay him the 5+ mill/yr he wants? if he replaces 2 guys and he thinks he can be a dynamic playmaker - maybe he sees the 5m number, or close enough to not regret passing our offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 if he replaces 2 guys and he thinks he can be a dynamic playmaker - maybe he sees the 5m number, or close enough to not regret passing our offer. Even if the money is less that doesn't mean that he isn't going to a team that will better utilize his skill set and be a better situation for him. If the Pats acquire him I have no doubt that he will be used in a smarter fashion. It's not about the quantiy of carries as it is about the effectiveness of a player. I'm very confident that if CJ ends up with Dallas (with their great OL) or with the Pats (with one of the smartest coaching staffs) he will exhibit his dynamic playmaking skills to a greater extent than he did with the dullard Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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