HailMary Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 If Kiko was a bargaining chip then why didn't they package him up as part of a deal for another for another position? They could have backed up the Brinks truck to Demarco Murray or explored a value option with Mark Ingram in free agency and use Kiko as part of another deal. Don't get me wrong, I really like the potential of McCoy in the offence but in a year super deep in RBs and some great FA options, why take on the contract and a player that sounds like he doesn't want to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 ingram isnt half the back -- murray could have been an option but murray would have 31 other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Maybe he was only a bargaining chip for CHIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Maybe he was only a bargaining chip for CHIP Chip likes his Quackers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Exactly....doubtful other teams think that highly of Alonzo as Kelly does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I'd say it would be pretty hard to bring back anywhere near the value of Shady by trading Kiko somewhere else. I know we love the Bills and Rex is great and all, but Mario is the only significant FA we've signed in a long time. Can we stop playing the Browns fans game of thinking we'd be players for every marquee FA? Ingram is bad and Murray is going elsewhere if the money is close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 if we were willing to trade Kiko then we should have gone after a QUARTERBACK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 i really dont get the complaining by people regarding this deal...McCoy is a top 5 prob top 2-3 RB in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 if we were willing to trade Kiko then we should have gone after a QUARTERBACK! NO TEAM was trading a legit starting QB for Kiko Alonso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 NO TEAM was trading a legit starting QB for Kiko Alonso. but #legend and stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 NO TEAM was trading a legit starting QB for Kiko Alonso. Ask the Eagles for Foles and a draft pick. The Bears would have traded Cutler for a ham sandwich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) Ask the Eagles for Foles and a draft pick. The Bears would have traded Cutler for a ham sandwichqb value... Is what it is. It doesn't equate to a LB. Draft pick too? No.... Part of why Cutlers trade value is lower is his huge contract. Foles makes peanuts. Edited March 4, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Ask the Eagles for Foles and a draft pick. The Bears would have traded Cutler for a ham sandwich So you'd rather have Jay Cutler than LeSean McCoy? Maybe it's time to sit a couple of plays out there Champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Ask the Eagles for Foles and a draft pick. The Bears would have traded Cutler for a ham sandwich Nick Foles. Was talked about being benched for Sanchez before the injury If thats the case we can still get cutler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Because not all backs are interchangeable. It's why a guy can excel in a zone blocking scheme and cannot in a power run game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 My guess is that the Bills called Philly about Foles. They offered Kiko for Foles and Philly came back with "we are going to hang on to Foles but we like Kiko, would you take Shady?" And the deal got done quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 So you'd rather have Jay Cutler than LeSean McCoy? Maybe it's time to sit a couple of plays out there Champ. In case you didn't hear, McCoy doesn't want to play for us. And we don't have a QB. You know, the most important position on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonechiller Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 The way this is going, they WILL add a QB, Probably nobody on anyones radar, just like Shady was a surprise. They will not go into camp with EJ pegged as the starter, they are too far "IN" for that, They will have at least one QB better than or equal to EJ to compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 In case you didn't hear, McCoy doesn't want to play for us. And we don't have a QB. You know, the most important position on the team. Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 if we were willing to trade Kiko then we should have gone after a QUARTERBACK! Come on guys common sense here, I know everyone has some. In case you didn't hear, McCoy doesn't want to play for us. And we don't have a QB. You know, the most important position on the team. Can I see the link where McCoy says himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJallDAY Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 only bills fans can be upset when they just aquired one of the best offensive players in the league... for a line backer. a line backer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 In case you didn't hear, McCoy doesn't want to play for us. And we don't have a QB. You know, the most important position on the team. I wasn't aware trading for LeSean McCoy was preventing us from signing Aaron Rodgers. I'm well aware of the QB situation. Because we don't have a top QB, should we just trade Mario, Dareaus, Kyle, Watkins and Cordy Glenn and pout? Or should we try to build a team that can win given our limitations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 if we were willing to trade Kiko then we should have gone after a QUARTERBACK! why does it have to be Kiko for a QB? you act like by trading Kiko they cant make another trade for a QB...dont get the logic there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) So you'd rather have Jay Cutler than LeSean McCoy? Maybe it's time to sit a couple of plays out there Champ. I guess I need to sit a couple plays out too. There's no RB i'd rather have than McCoy. Not even DeMarco or AP (and that's a very close call there). I think McCoy is more versatile. But I need to take a shot at QB. I guess by the old proverb, I'd rather have 2 in the bush. Since I havent been in the playoffs in this century. Edited March 4, 2015 by maddenboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 In case you didn't hear, McCoy doesn't want to play for us. And we don't have a QB. You know, the most important position on the team. Yea, yea, yea and Mario Williams is never going to want to come to Buffalo. He will change his tune as soon as they work out a restructured contract and he is guaranteed more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 So let's trade kiko for a back up qb and watch everyone flip out. Smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 if we were willing to trade Kiko then we should have gone after a QUARTERBACK! Did you have one in mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I guess I need to sit a couple plays out too. There's no RB i'd rather have than McCoy. Not even DeMarco or AP (and that's a very close call there). I think McCoy is more versatile. But I need to take a shot at QB. I guess by the old proverb, I'd rather have 2 in the bush. Since I havent been in the playoffs in this century. I don't think this deal has any impact on the QB situation. It doesn't change the QBs who are available as FAs. The only QBs who might be available for trade are guys like Bradford or Cutler and we'd really flip out had the team traded Kiko for one of those. It's not like Kiko would have netted us Cam Newton or Russell Wilson. Simply put, elite QBs are not available for trade, regardless of who is offered. The only way we are getting one is through the draft or finding a gem on the FA scrap heap. This deal doesn't impact our ability to do either of those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanMike Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Good bye #Legendofkiko you will be missed. Now lets run the damn ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 only bills fans can be upset when they just aquired one of the best offensive players in the league... for a line backer. a line backer Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Link? http://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2015/03/lesean_mccoy_reportedly_not_happy_about_trade_to_buffalo_bills.html Come on guys common sense here, I know everyone has some. Can I see the link where McCoy says himself. http://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2015/03/lesean_mccoy_reportedly_not_happy_about_trade_to_buffalo_bills.html Also check the front page of the Philly newspaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 http://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2015/03/lesean_mccoy_reportedly_not_happy_about_trade_to_buffalo_bills.html http://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2015/03/lesean_mccoy_reportedly_not_happy_about_trade_to_buffalo_bills.html Also check the front page of the Philly newspaper So no word actually from McCoy himself. Alonso reported wanted out of Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 http://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2015/03/lesean_mccoy_reportedly_not_happy_about_trade_to_buffalo_bills.html http://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2015/03/lesean_mccoy_reportedly_not_happy_about_trade_to_buffalo_bills.htmlAlso check the front page of the Philly newspaper I don't see a McCoy quote... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 http://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2015/03/lesean_mccoy_reportedly_not_happy_about_trade_to_buffalo_bills.html http://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2015/03/lesean_mccoy_reportedly_not_happy_about_trade_to_buffalo_bills.html Also check the front page of the Philly newspaper So no word actually from McCoy himself. Alonso reported wanted out of Buffalo. I don't see a McCoy quote... he spoke directly to Josina Anderson and said "why me?" and he has no plans on reporting any time soon as per his agent. probably going to be a training camp holdout and then is he just all of a sudden supposed to start game 1 when he doesn't know the plays? this sounds bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 If Kiko was a bargaining chip then why didn't they package him up as part of a deal for another for another position? They could have backed up the Brinks truck to Demarco Murray or explored a value option with Mark Ingram in free agency and use Kiko as part of another deal. Don't get me wrong, I really like the potential of McCoy in the offence but in a year super deep in RBs and some great FA options, why take on the contract and a player that sounds like he doesn't want to be here. I have the same feelings. Love McCoy, but it seems like Murray or Ingram could have been cheaper (and they could have kept Alonso if there was not a suitor for another position). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 he spoke directly to Josina Anderson and said "why me?" and he has no plans on reporting any time soon as per his agent. probably going to be a training camp holdout and then is he just all of a sudden supposed to start game 1 when he doesn't know the plays? this sounds bad You love making up drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I don't think this deal has any impact on the QB situation. It doesn't change the QBs who are available as FAs. The only QBs who might be available for trade are guys like Bradford or Cutler and we'd really flip out had the team traded Kiko for one of those. It's not like Kiko would have netted us Cam Newton or Russell Wilson. Simply put, elite QBs are not available for trade, regardless of who is offered. The only way we are getting one is through the draft or finding a gem on the FA scrap heap. This deal doesn't impact our ability to do either of those things. you are exactly correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Ask the Eagles for Foles and a draft pick. The Bears would have traded Cutler for a ham sandwich weren't you one of the ones bitching about mccoy's contract? but CUTLER'S would be okay? if we were willing to trade Kiko then we should have gone after a QUARTERBACK! getting McCoy for a linebacker was beyond improbable. this assumption that a quarterback could/should have been had is downright preposterous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyHorseAteTheKid Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 What if Shady refuses to report to the Bills? In case you didn't hear, McCoy doesn't want to play for us. And we don't have a QB. You know, the most important position on the team. http://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2015/03/lesean_mccoy_reportedly_not_happy_about_trade_to_buffalo_bills.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) If Kiko was a bargaining chip then why didn't they package him up as part of a deal for another for another position? They could have backed up the Brinks truck to Demarco Murray or explored a value option with Mark Ingram in free agency and use Kiko as part of another deal. Don't get me wrong, I really like the potential of McCoy in the offence but in a year super deep in RBs and some great FA options, why take on the contract and a player that sounds like he doesn't want to be here. Because Chip Kelly was the only one over-valuing Alonso so badly. What if Shady refuses to report to the Bills? http://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2015/03/lesean_mccoy_reportedly_not_happy_about_trade_to_buffalo_bills.html People, in general, hate change. No player likes surprise trades. Its unsettling and brings in all sorts of levels on uncertainty. The initial reaction is always sour. All these articles talking about McCoy not liking the trade are all about his initial reaction, and contain NO direct quotes from him. He'll settle down once he has a chance to talk to his long-time friend Doug Whaley. And especially once we talk extending that contract with more guaranteed money. Edited March 4, 2015 by DrDareustein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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