Is now the time to panic?

[mannc]

It is becoming clearer every day that Whaley/Marrone once again made a huge (and IMO unfathomable) miscalculation by allowing this franchise to enter yet another NFL season without a viable no. 2 QB when there are very serious question marks about the anointed starter. (I maintain that the best solution would have been to use a 4th round or later pick on a QB in last April's draft, but it's too late for that now, if course.).

 

So the question is, do the Bills try to add another QB to the roster now? If so, who would you have them acquire and how much would it cost? How much would you be willing to pay?

[17 Josh Allen]

Kyle Orton, Christian Ponder when he gets cut,

Raiders Matt Mcgloin if he gets cut, trade for

Redskins Kirt Cousins. That's are only choices

As I see it.

[mannc]

Kyle Orton, Christian Ponder when he gets cut,

Raiders Matt Mcgloin if he gets cut, trade for

Redskins Kirt Cousins. That's are only choices

As I see it.

Is Ponder going to be cut? How much would Cousins cost? A 3d rounder?

[Nervous Guy]

Panic? Why not?? It appears to be all the rage! http://q.usatoday.com/2014/08/17/san-francisco-49ers-jim-harbaugh-colin-kaepernick/

[nucci]

Kyle Orton, Christian Ponder when he gets cut,

Raiders Matt Mcgloin if he gets cut, trade for

Redskins Kirt Cousins. That's are only choices

As I see it.

at least you're setting the bar high and going after top QBs

[Johnny Hammersticks]

 

at least you're setting the bar high and going after top QBs

 

Not too much left but scrap in August, brah. Agreed with the OP in that the backup QB position was mishandled. Not much to do now but hope EJ stays healthy.

[quinnearlysghost88]

Kirk cousins is going nowhere. Especially with how poorly rg3 has been playing. It would be a dream to somehow land him

Edited August 24, 2014 by quinnearlysghost88

[bobshaw81]

I'd be very interested in Dolphins backup Matt Moore. How can you logically go into year 2 of this regime with the same QBs as last year? It's disgusting.

[johnnywo]

NO

[jaybee]

Yes. They should do this if possible, and if a good fit is available. We may have the worse QB situation in the league as it stands now.

[TXBILLSFAN]

There should have been a Plan B put into place t QB and there wasn't.

 

No 1st round pick in 2015

No proven veteran backup (hello Michael Vick?)

No mid-round draft pick from last year's draft

 

All eggs are in the EJ basket.

 

The choice now to create a Plan B are very limited.

 

If I was Whaley, I'd take a serious look at Ponder (who, if not cut, could be had for lower round pick), Josh Freeman (I know he's looked bad, but, he might have something left) or comb the waiver wire. Options are not good in August, the time to do this was back in March-April

[chris heff]

I wish Earl Morrall was available.

[thewildrabbit]

Feel free to panic!

 

 

There is no way this coaching staff ends their bromance with Tuel Or Lewis by placing them on the practice squad. Although, I have no idea what they see in those two. It must be something very secretive tho, so other teams in the AFC East don't snatch them right up.

 

Sok, once new ownership takes over they will hire a competent coaching staff.

Edited August 24, 2014 by FeartheLosing

[BuffaloPride]

Kirk cousins is going nowhere. Especially with how poorly rg3 has been playing. It would be a dream to somehow land him

Agreed. The Bills could have gotten him for a 3rd round pick before this years draft. The Skins aren't trading him now.

[mannc]

Kirk cousins is going nowhere. Especially with how poorly rg3 has been playing. It would be a dream to somehow land him

i tend to agree, but Cousins is doing so well, and RGIII so poorly, that they are headed for a full-blown QB controversy. The problem is that they have too much invested in RGIII to bench him, at least this year. I could see them moving Cousins to avoid that circus. I have also heard rumors that Cousins wants to go somewhere he can start, which would seem to rule out the Bills this year.

[Hazed and Amuzed]

This is the earliest I've ever seen the sky fall here at TSW. 3rd PS game and people are jumping out of windows. And before anyone says "14 years of no playoffs will do that to you!" I'll say get over it, to the person that says that there are 31 other teams to pick from that you can root for. For every argument that the sky is falling there's an argument that it's not.

 

I'm not sold on EJ but I root for him and understand he's young, I'm not sure I like the way our pass D is looking but I hope the gel and get better, I am definitely not sold on Marrone but I'll give him more that 1 season and a few PS games to prove himself.

 

Let's see where this team is headed before we start "panicking". 1 season and a couple of vanilla PS games is just not enough to start blowing things up.

[mannc]

 

Let's see where this team is headed before we start "panicking". 1 season and a couple of vanilla PS games is just not enough to start blowing things up.

Not advocating "blowing things up", just adding a competent backup QB to the roster. Has to be done now, if it is going to happen.

[BigPappy]

This is the earliest I've ever seen the sky fall here at TSW. 3rd PS game and people are jumping out of windows. And before anyone says "14 years of no playoffs will do that to you!" I'll say get over it, to the person that says that there are 31 other teams to pick from that you can root for. For every argument that the sky is falling there's an argument that it's not.

 

I'm not sold on EJ but I root for him and understand he's young, I'm not sure I like the way our pass D is looking but I hope the gel and get better, I am definitely not sold on Marrone but I'll give him more that 1 season and a few PS games to prove himself.

 

Let's see where this team is headed before we start "panicking". 1 season and a couple of vanilla PS games is just not enough to start blowing things up.

Hazed,

Don't go using logic around here. That is frowned upon. Other than that...I agree 100%!

 

BigPappy

[TXBILLSFAN]

This is the earliest I've ever seen the sky fall here at TSW. 3rd PS game and people are jumping out of windows. And before anyone says "14 years of no playoffs will do that to you!" I'll say get over it, to the person that says that there are 31 other teams to pick from that you can root for. For every argument that the sky is falling there's an argument that it's not.

 

I'm not sold on EJ but I root for him and understand he's young, I'm not sure I like the way our pass D is looking but I hope the gel and get better, I am definitely not sold on Marrone but I'll give him more that 1 season and a few PS games to prove himself.

 

Let's see where this team is headed before we start "panicking". 1 season and a couple of vanilla PS games is just not enough to start blowing things up.

Nice perspective, always needed. I do want to say that I root for EVERY player on this team every game. My opinions never impact that. I think most of us feel the same way.

 

The issue we all have is not experiencing any on the field success for so many years makes us even more anxious to see progress, and when we don't see it (like yesterday), it's human nature to unload our opinions.

 

I know it's preseason and there is perspective to be respected, however, all of us saw what happened and from what I saw, there is reason to be very concerned about this team this year.

[Gugny]

Only in Buffalo does the panic button get abused with regard to the backup QB.

[....lybob]

my panic freakout moves

 

QB- Josh Freeman is a free agent pick him up put Tuel on the PS, cut Lewis-

 

OG- pick up Incognito and trade next years 2nd round pick for Alex Boone - starting OL Glenn, Boone,Wood, Incognito, Henderson- backup Urbik, Hairston, Richardson, Kouandijo

 

Base offense - it should be Watkins, Woods Williams, Spiller, Chandler - spread offense is where Spiller excelled with Chan

[machine gun kelly]

This reminds me of the scene from Animal House with Kevin Bacon. "remain calm, all is well!".

 

I wish I knew how to attach you tube files from my I-Pad.

[xsoldier54]

It is becoming clearer every day that Whaley/Marrone once again made a huge (and IMO unfathomable) miscalculation by allowing this franchise to enter yet another NFL season without a viable no. 2 QB when there are very serious question marks about the anointed starter. (I maintain that the best solution would have been to use a 4th round or later pick on a QB in last April's draft, but it's too late for that now, if course.).

 

So the question is, do the Bills try to add another QB to the roster now? If so, who would you have them acquire and how much would it cost? How much would you be willing to pay?

I believe it is not too early to panic about the QB position. It appears that none of the three QB on the roster or even Dixon from the practice squad are any good at all. All have played poorly this pre-season and there is no reason to believe that any of them will be able to suddenly flip a switch once the season starts and all of a sudden play better. They need to add not one, but two QB's somehow and find someone who can at least be adequate at the position. Right now, all are epically bad.

[gumby]

I think the only ones who are panicked are those that thought the Bills would do something this year. The people who saw a 6-10 team aren't worried. It's the same ol' same ol'.

[Rico]

No, now is not the time to panic. Week 1 is still two weeks away, and even after that, this is still a year of transition....plenty of time for all the underachievers (on the field, on the sidelines, & in the front office) to prove that they deserve to stay under the new ownership. If they fail to do so & the new ownership still keeps them? That's when it's time to panic, for nothing will have changed. Until then, I'm just kicking back & watching.

[Saint Doug]

It's interesting how each preseason the Bills have sucked, we are told each and every time "it's just preseason, wait until the regular season". Every year. And how do the cards eventually fall? 6 win seasons. I think people are still under the impression (we saw during the SB years) that the preseason is meaningless.

[hondo in seattle]

Preseason is never the time to panic.

 

We all remember Levy, Kelly and company going 0-4 in preseason in 1990. In fact, I don't believe the Bills ever had a winning preseason record during the SB years. Preseason is a time for vanilla offenses, vanilla defenses and talent evaluation. Not for panic.

 

When Trent Green injured himself in a preseason game in 1999, Rams fans began to worry. Worry turned to panic when they turned the team over to a former stockboy with a 47.2 QB rating in his limited NFL action. And thus began "The Greatest Show on Turf" - which produced a victory in SB XXXIV.

 

So I wait until we start screwing up in real games before I panic.

[3rdand12]

Panic? Why not?? It appears to be all the rage! http://q.usatoday.co...lin-kaepernick/

I feel much better. Thank you N G !

[vincec]

Only in Buffalo does the panic button get abused with regard to the backup QB.

I suspect that the real panic is about the starting QB.

[Kelly the Dog]

It's interesting how each preseason the Bills have sucked, we are told each and every time "it's just preseason, wait until the regular season". Every year. And how do the cards eventually fall? 6 win seasons. I think people are still under the impression (we saw during the SB years) that the preseason is meaningless.

Actually, the reason we sucked all these years is because we had inferior quarterbacking and inferior coaching and a decent roster with only one or maybe no star players on it. Sometimes we looked pretty good in preseason. Sometimes we started the season looking pretty good after a lousy preseason. There is endless evidence of good teams playing poorly in preseason and bad teams playing well in preseason.

 

We have a better team this year. We have a presently very erratic quarterback. We have suspect coaching. But I still don't think that how we play in preseason as a team has much to do how we will look when the regular season starts.

[3rdand12]

I suspect that the real panic is about the starting QB.

I would consider that the heart of the matter

 

Nice perspective, always needed. I do want to say that I root for EVERY player on this team every game. My opinions never impact that. I think most of us feel the same way.

 

The issue we all have is not experiencing any on the field success for so many years makes us even more anxious to see progress, and when we don't see it (like yesterday), it's human nature to unload our opinions.

 

I know it's preseason and there is perspective to be respected, however, all of us saw what happened and from what I saw, there is reason to be very concerned about this team this year.

good post TX . I am concerned but hardly deflated

[mannc]

 

Actually, the reason we sucked all these years is because we had inferior quarterbacking and inferior coaching and a decent roster with only one or maybe no star players on it. Sometimes we looked pretty good in preseason. Sometimes we started the season looking pretty good after a lousy preseason. There is endless evidence of good teams playing poorly in preseason and bad teams playing well in preseason.

 

We have a better team this year. We have a presently very erratic quarterback. We have suspect coaching. But I still don't think that how we play in preseason as a team has much to do how we will look when the regular season starts.

And yet players get cut or benched every year based on how they perform in the preseason, so it must mean something, especially for unproven players like the ones we are discussing here.

 

 

I suspect that the real panic is about the starting QB.

Certainly there would be far less concern about the backup position if we had a proven starter with a history of making it through the season in one piece. Edited August 24, 2014 by mannc

[Kelly the Dog]

And yet players get cut or benched every year based on how they perform in the preseason, so it must mean something, especially for unproven players like the ones we are discussing here.

Not really. Because coaches don't think of these games or what they see like fans do. Coaches want to see if guys can win their battles one on one, if they can execute their assignments (which we don't know what they are), if they use the techniques they were taught in practice in the games against other players, if they can communicate with their teammates in the middle of a game, etc. it's a completely different set of criterion. And they can get the answers, win or lose, play well or play bad as a team, from watching live and more so watching tape after the game.

[CodeMonkey]

It is becoming clearer every day that Whaley/Marrone once again made a huge (and IMO unfathomable) miscalculation by allowing this franchise to enter yet another NFL season without a viable no. 2 QB when there are very serious question marks about the anointed starter. (I maintain that the best solution would have been to use a 4th round or later pick on a QB in last April's draft, but it's too late for that now, if course.).

 

So the question is, do the Bills try to add another QB to the roster now? If so, who would you have them acquire and how much would it cost? How much would you be willing to pay?

Panic over a #2 QB? You are a lightweight. There are people here panicking over the #1 QB!

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

After watching this team fail to earn a post season berth for 14 years we reserve panic for a loss in the third preseason game of year 15?

 

Riiiiiight!

[Ohiostyle]

Somewhere over on Eagles forum.... "Think we could trade Barkley for Tuel, he looked pretty good this pre-season?"

 

Somewhere over on Dolphins forum.... "Think we could pick up Thad Lewis, he looked pretty good beating us twice last year?"

 

Somewhere over on Skins forum.... "We need to trade Cousins or RG3 and get something for the draft, we have too many holes to fill".