angryfan62 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Sore Loser?, Crybaby? Or Justified? What do you guys think? Looked a little bit intentional to me, but on the other hand it's not like the Pats have a reputation for dirty play themselves or anything like that But hey, that's just my opinion... Link Edited January 21, 2014 by angryfan62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 H's absolutely right. It was a dirty play by Welker. The issue is that the Pats have committed dirty plays in the past too (although not as many as people think - Rodney Harrsison committed virtually no dirty plays as a Pat). Brandon Spikes comes to mind, although he was in fact booted off of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Hitting a football player 4 inches taller and 20 pounds heavier than you is "dirty?" Just cancel the league now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 H's absolutely right. It was a dirty play by Welker. The issue is that the Pats have committed dirty plays in the past too (although not as many as people think - Rodney Harrsison committed virtually no dirty plays as a Pat). Brandon Spikes comes to mind, although he was in fact booted off of the team. Â Â Spikes has been a dirtbag the last couple of years in terms of dirty hits and Wilfork was fined 4 times in a season, IIRC, and was not suspended. That included the blatant shot on Losman's knee--truly one of the dirtiest plays I've ever seen--falling on a defenseless Jason Witten well away from the play and trying to poke Brandon Jacobs' eye out. Bill's certainly seen a lot of cheap shots--he's just not used to his guys being on the receiving end of them! Cry me a river.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfan62 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) H's absolutely right. It was a dirty play by Welker. The issue is that the Pats have committed dirty plays in the past too (although not as many as people think - Rodney Harrsison committed virtually no dirty plays as a Pat). Brandon Spikes comes to mind, although he was in fact booted off of the team. Â Let me clarify...When I said that it looked "intentional", I meant that it looked like a designed play to block the defender. That being said I didn't see Welker go low or high, just blocked the crap out of Talib. It was while the ball was still in the air though so I guess the makes it illegal by rule (pick). Edited January 21, 2014 by angryfan62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Â Â Let me clarify...When I said that it looked "intentional", I meant that it looked like a designed play to block the defender. That being said I didn't see Welker go low or high, just blocked the crap out of Talib. It was while the ball was still in the air though so I guess the makes it illegal by rule (pick). Â He didn't contact Talib until the ball was touched or close enough to it. Those are pick plays and the Pats run them all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Jax Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Saw Bellicheat live this morning when he made this idiotic claim. Â So Welker, who has missed some games this year, and who was wearing a "Kelso-like" helmet, would risk hurting himself.....risk putting himself out of the game.....for a short over the middle pass in the 1st Qtr?! Uh huh, rrrriiiiiiiiiggggggghhhhttttt! Â Bellicheat may be showing early signs of Alzheimer's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Sore loser and clearly lingering bad blood with Welker leaving the team. Not Bellichick's best moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Saw Bellicheat live this morning when he made this idiotic claim. Â So Welker, who has missed some games this year, and who was wearing a "Kelso-like" helmet, would risk hurting himself.....risk putting himself out of the game.....for a short over the middle pass in the 1st Qtr?! Uh huh, rrrriiiiiiiiiggggggghhhhttttt! Â Bellicheat may be showing early signs of Alzheimer's. Â EXACTLY!!!. Welker has had too many concussion problems to go out and intentionally try to injure someone, including himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLocke Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Broncos receivers could be called for offensive pass interference just about every pass play I've seen these playoffs. Seems like the officials can only see it if the Broncos opponents do it as both SD and NE got called for offensive pass interference. Manning has gotten his share of gifts from the officials over the years. I still remember that Monday Night game against Tampa when Indy made the comeback and Vanderjagt missed the FG only to have leapfrogging called on the play something officials hadn't called in god knows how long. Having said that it's nice to see the Pats get a taste of their own medicine. Edited January 21, 2014 by MrLocke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffMuff Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 A "dirty" play? I guess every penalty can be considered a "dirty" play, like holding. Gisele never liked Welker. But I bet every team runs a pick play. Thats all I saw. I highly doubt Fox sends Welker out as the hit man. Sounds like a sore loser grabbing for straws. I guess Brady gets it from Bill. Cry me river little Bill..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLocke Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Tampa_Bay_Buccaneers_season#Week_5:_Indianapolis_Colts_.28lost_35.E2.80.9338.2C_OT.29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 http://en.wikipedia....0.9338.2C_OT.29 Â That was 11 years ago in a meaningless regular season game. What's your point? That Welker should be ejected? Kicked out of the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I would expect Bellicheat to know a receiver intentionally taking out a DB on a screen play when he sees one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Let me get this straight. John Fox had Wes Welker, a small WR who missed 5 weeks this season with concussions, "take out" Talib with a "crushing" block. Welker said it was a rub pattern. His job is to run between the DB and his teammate. Both he and Talib zigged when they should have zagged. It is a common play and Belichick is just bellyaching and whining. Poor sportsmanship abounds in NE. Edited January 21, 2014 by Nitro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLocke Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 That was 11 years ago in a meaningless regular season game. What's your point? That Welker should be ejected? Kicked out of the league? Â My point is that people don`t remember the calls that Manning gets as well as the ones Brady has gotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 A "dirty" play? I guess every penalty can be considered a "dirty" play, like holding. Gisele never liked Welker. But I bet every team runs a pick play. Thats all I saw. I highly doubt Fox sends Welker out as the hit man. Sounds like a sore loser grabbing for straws. I guess Brady gets it from Bill. Cry me river little Bill..... Let me get this straight. John Fox had Wes Welker, a small WR who missed 5 weeks this season with concussions, "take out" Talib with a "crushing" block. Welker said it was a rub pattern. His job is to run between the DB and his teammate. Both he and Talib zigged when they should have zagged. It is a common play and Belichick is just bellyaching and whining. Poor sportsmanship abounds in NE. Â Why is it necessary that Fox has anything to do with whatever Welker may or may not have chosen to do to Talib on that play? Â Why not Welker just decided to tee off on a guy he doesn't like on he team he hates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Illegal pick, illegal hit , but wasnt trying to hurt him. Its football **** happens wa wa wa belichek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 It was a designed rub/pick play. All NFL teams run them, all the time. The Pats had just ran one during the series or two prior, and got flagged on it. Belichick is probably more pissed off that his Pats have seemed to have lost the Golden standing with the refs. He was waiting for them to make up a new Brady Rule around the 3 minute mark. This one would be worth 28 points, and permanent possession for the remainder of the game. He texted Roger and everything! But this year, Roger didnt text back. Poor Billy. Â Did Welker want to hurt Talib? Sure, you want to "lay a crack" on a guy when you are the one initiating contact. But did he want to injure him? Didn't look like it to me. Welker didnt dive into his knees or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 :cry:  Bill Belichick calls out Wes Welker  New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick delivered strong comments about Wes Welker's hit that knocked cornerback Aqib Talib out of the AFC Championship Game. Belichick opened his season-ending news conference Monday morning by talking about Welker, unprompted by any questions from reporters.  "I was asked about the hit on Talib, and I feel badly for Aqib," Belichick said. "The way that play turned out -- I went back and watched it, which I didn't have a chance to yesterday. "It was a deliberate play by the receiver to take out Aqib. No attempt to get open. I'll let the league handle the discipline on that play, whatever they decide. It's one of the worst plays I've seen. That's all I'll say about that."  @PriscoCBS Is that Edelman with an intent to injure? No but you get the point. Left his feet to take the shot  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Sore Loser?, Crybaby? Or Justified? What do you guys think? Looked a little bit intentional to me, but on the other hand it's not like the Pats have a reputation for dirty play themselves or anything like that But hey, that's just my opinion... Link  In my opinion: call the Waaamulance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Hey, Belichick, remember when you coached him to do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) I would expect Bellicheat to know a receiver intentionally taking out a DB on a screen play when he sees one. Â I would expect Bellycheat to belly ache. His team lost. Â No way was little Wes trying to deliberately "take out" (in the sense of injure) Talib. Pick him, yes. Wonder what coach "learned" him to pick. Edited January 21, 2014 by Hopeful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Karma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Why is it necessary that Fox has anything to do with whatever Welker may or may not have chosen to do to Talib on that play? Â Why not Welker just decided to tee off on a guy he doesn't like on he team he hates? Â Teeoff by legally blocking him? Motivations aside, the play was legal and happens all the time in the NFL. Talib should be embarrassed that Welker blew him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 In my opinion: call the Waaamulance  .__________>/^\< | ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '|__\ | WAMBULANCE - | i<< I_______________|I ..""(@)"""""""""(@)"............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Dave Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Didn't Edelman do the exact same thing to Rodgers-Cromartie earlier in the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I would expect Bellycheat to belly ache. His team lost. Â No way was little Wes trying to deliberately "take out" (in the sense of injure) Talib. Pick him, yes. Wonder what coach "learned" him to pick. Â Precisely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 H's absolutely right. It was a dirty play by Welker. The issue is that the Pats have committed dirty plays in the past too (although not as many as people think - Rodney Harrsison committed virtually no dirty plays as a Pat). Brandon Spikes comes to mind, although he was in fact booted off of the team. Â I saw Rodney Harrison commit multiple dirty plays as a Pat with my own eyes. Don't start with that crap. Â Why is everyone saying it is a dirty play by Welker? They ran into each other? Did he lower his helmet or shoulder? Â How was it different than the picture of Edelman in this thread? Â If Spikes was booted off the team and not actually injured then your beloved Bellichick has just been caught cheating again. Â Teeoff by legally blocking him? Motivations aside, the play was legal and happens all the time in the NFL. Talib should be embarrassed that Welker blew him up. Â Talib should "Ice up son". Mr. WEO probably should wait a week before posting stuff like that but I get it. It is an emotional game even for fans and his favorite team just lost. Bills fans do similar crying, even on this board so we should cut him some slack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 So Welker is a bad guy for running a pick and hurting a DB. NE runs plays like this all the time including yesterday. Hell Welker probably learned most of his route running from the Pats. Bellyache is a sore loser. With his girl Tommy boy getting up ther in age and the team not as good as it has been. I feel Bellyache sees the end is real real near. When Brady hangs em up so will Bellyache. What a hypocrite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 So the pats* run more wrong pics thsn anyone else but when it happens against them and someone gets hurt its not fun anymore. What a whiny botch. Stfu hoodie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 He's just pissed it was Welker that hit him and caused the injury. I'm pretty sure a WR with major concussion issues, who had an excellent chance to play in the super bowl, was intentionally trying to hurt someone. Come on Bill....take the loss like a man and quit ur bitchin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I only wish Welker had flexed his arm after the hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Sore Loser?, Crybaby? Or Justified? What do you guys think? Looked a little bit intentional to me, but on the other hand it's not like the Pats have a reputation for dirty play themselves or anything like that But hey, that's just my opinion... Link  There is a song that says "What goes around comes back around..." which I think is very apropo in this case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Ask Fred Jackson about cheap shots from Patriot players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I thought yesterday's Pats loss couldn't get sweeter, but seeing BB whining about the kind of play that he perfected, executed by one of his former players, is just too much to bear. Tears of joy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Ask Fred Jackson about cheap shots from Patriot players. Â Which actually reminds me of a point we're all missing: Â Vince Wilfork demonstrates a history of cheap-shotting QBs, including a flying elbow to JP Losman's knee. Slap on the wrist, he promises he won't do it again. Â Bernard Pollard gets thrown by an offensive lineman into Tom Brady's knee...they actually change the rules of the game to make sure it never happens again. Â Belichick's point is completely valid, in the context of the fact that the Pats have a completely different set of expectations of the officials than the rest of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Â Â Which actually reminds me of a point we're all missing: Â Vince Wilfork demonstrates a history of cheap-shotting QBs, including a flying elbow to JP Losman's knee. Slap on the wrist, he promises he won't do it again. Â Bernard Pollard gets thrown by an offensive lineman into Tom Brady's knee...they actually change the rules of the game to make sure it never happens again. Â Belichick's point is completely valid, in the context of the fact that the Pats have a completely different set of expectations of the officials than the rest of the league. Â Expect a rule change on picks this offseason. Â It was a well executed pick play. It was unfortunate Talib got hurt, but anyone who thinks Welker's intent was to injure is crazy or a whiny B word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis in NC Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Let's not forget the Pats RT Marcus Cannon, the master of the leg whip. I recall two of his leg whips this season which were not called by the refs, but were noted by the announcers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 This is just Belichick getting back at Welker after Welker bad mouthed him when he left New England. Nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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