Dragonborn10 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Chandler has an ACL. He was average at best before the injury. I was hoping they would upgrade anyways and now they will have to. Take a run at Antonio Gates if San Diego cleans house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 ACL? No big deal. My bet is Scott Chandler with an ACL can run circles around an 80 year old Antonio Gates. And yes I am familiar with Tony Gonzalez. Any draft prospects named Tony or Antonio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I have two ACL's. However, I have never torn one like Chandler just did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Antonio Gates is done. Nor does he make sense for a team that can't "win now." We will probably draft a receiving tight end; the question is when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Bills have had no use for a TE, other than for blocking, forever. Why look now? They wouldn't know what to do with a Tony G. or Jimmy G. The Bills would be better off doing what they did back in the early 70's... drafting an OT and converting him to TE like Paul Seymour. If they want blocking, get a guy that wants to put his head down and do that? They aint gonna throw to em anyway. It aint like his gonna be a significant part of their passing offense. I mean, really, how many NFL teams would Chandler start on? Certainly not on any playoff teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 There will be a new coach very soon. What makes you think TE won't be an important position for the new regime? If they retain Fitz TE will be important. For the record I would draft a TE and not go after Gates. They will probably need to bring in two new players if Chandler can't be ready by opening day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 There will be a new coach very soon. What makes you think TE won't be an important position for the new regime? If they retain Fitz TE will be important. For the record I would draft a TE and not go after Gates. They will probably need to bring in two new players if Chandler can't be ready by opening day. Exactly. Gailey and this offense will be gone. Hopefully fitz too. Times are changing (hopefully our record will too), a good TE can really help a rookie QB out. Maybe we'll have both, although it'll be tough considering we need 6 new LBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Chandler had 40+ catches, on pace for about 50.... How many targets did Dickerson get yesterday? Chan uses a tightend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Chandler has an ACL. He was average at best before the injury. I was hoping they would upgrade anyways and now they will have to. Take a run at Antonio Gates if San Diego cleans house? hope they clean out Rivers too, I'm really he is just as bad as Fitz so they couldn't possible want him anymore Antonio Gates is done. Nor does he make sense for a team that can't "win now." We will probably draft a receiving tight end; the question is when? Chan doesn't believe in TEs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 There will be a new coach very soon. What makes you think TE won't be an important position for the new regime? If they retain Fitz Tight end has not been a Bills priority since the mid 90's. What makes you think a new regime (if that happens) would change that. Ralph views TE's like a scrub right guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Every good offense in the NFL uses a te. That's the NFL it would be nice if the Bills one day join that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 (edited) Bills have had no use for a TE, other than for blocking, forever. Why look now? They wouldn't know what to do with a Tony G. or Jimmy G. The Bills would be better off doing what they did back in the early 70's... drafting an OT and converting him to TE like Paul Seymour. If they want blocking, get a guy that wants to put his head down and do that? They aint gonna throw to em anyway. It aint like his gonna be a significant part of their passing offense. I mean, really, how many NFL teams would Chandler start on? Certainly not on any playoff teams. hope they clean out Rivers too, I'm really he is just as bad as Fitz so they couldn't possible want him anymore As of just before I started typing this, Chandler was listed as our second-leading receiver. Chan doesn't believe in TEs Tight end has not been a Bills priority since the mid 90's. What makes you think a new regime (if that happens) would change that. Ralph views TE's like a scrub right guard. Every good offense in the NFL uses a te. That's the NFL it would be nice if the Bills one day join that As of just before I typed this, Chandler was our second-leading receiver. Edited December 25, 2012 by jjmac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Every good offense in the NFL uses a te. That's the NFL it would be nice if the Bills one day join that Tampa and Denver aren't much better, if at all, than Buffalo at tight end. That being said, we absolutely should grab an athletic receiving T.E. when possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Tampa and Denver aren't much better, if at all, than Buffalo at tight end. That being said, we absolutely should grab an athletic receiving T.E. when possible. Now there will be a new thread as to how we missed out on Gronkowski!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 (edited) Should have drafted our HOME-Town boy GRONK! Boom, the TE position is filled for 10 years Edited December 25, 2012 by snamsnoops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Jared Cook and Martellus Bennett are both Free Agents two guys who have a decent ability to both catch and block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 (edited) Antonio Gates is done. Nor does he make sense for a team that can't "win now." We will probably draft a receiving tight end; the question is when? We will probably between 26th and 27th... Edited December 25, 2012 by jboyst62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 (edited) As of just before I typed this, Chandler was our second-leading receiver. Unfortunately, I think this is more of a function of us not having a #2 WR (or a #1 for that matter)...and Fitz not being able to throw it far enough for a WR to catch it. Edited December 25, 2012 by kas23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I think Chandler is a good TE that could be great. I think he's limited by the scheme and QB in the present. That being said, two good TEs are better than one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 ACL tears are nothing these days. He'll be back for reg season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Bills have had no use for a TE, other than for blocking, forever. Why look now? They wouldn't know what to do with a Tony G. or Jimmy G. The Bills would be better off doing what they did back in the early 70's... drafting an OT and converting him to TE like Paul Seymour. If they want blocking, get a guy that wants to put his head down and do that? They aint gonna throw to em anyway. It aint like his gonna be a significant part of their passing offense. I mean, really, how many NFL teams would Chandler start on? Certainly not on any playoff teams. What? TEs are a significant part of this offense. As Top 3 receiver and Chandler broke the record for TD reception by a TE for Buffalo. Why wouldn't a 6-7 monster with decent speed, good hands , and good route running ability not start on a playoff Team? Your post Makes zero sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 As of just before I typed this, Chandler was our second-leading receiver. could you not let facts get in the way of a good crusade? Geez, some people just don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 could you not let facts get in the way of a good crusade? Geez, some people just don't get it. As you can undoubtedly see by reading this thread, I'm not the only one who disputes the notion that Chan doesn't use tight ends. What I don't get is a so-called "crusade" based on something other than facts. If you are going to make a claim, base it on facts or don't make it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 As you can undoubtedly see by reading this thread, I'm not the only one who disputes the notion that Chan doesn't use tight ends. What I don't get is a so-called "crusade" based on something other than facts. If you are going to make a claim, base it on facts or don't make it at all. You're just proving my point! You're not putting the crusade first and trying to use all these facts to show the reality of situation instead of just wildly flailing around with the rest of us. Stop your over reliance on reality and facts man and just start lynching everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 You're just proving my point! You're not putting the crusade first and trying to use all these facts to show the reality of situation instead of just wildly flailing around with the rest of us. Stop your over reliance on reality and facts man and just start lynching everyone! In addition to my job, I I'm in a doctoral degree program. Facts are my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 how can we really determine the quality of any player in our receiving corps with the worst starting QB in the league throwing the passes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 ACL tears are nothing these days. He'll be back for reg season. It should be right on the fringe. Likely misses all of camp, most of the preseason.... If there's ANY hiccup, he will miss time in the regular season. Hiccups aren't rare, so he will be right on the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Chandler has an ACL. He was average at best before the injury. I was hoping they would upgrade anyways and now they will have to. Take a run at Antonio Gates if San Diego cleans house? Antonio has been done for awhile. Zach Eartz in the second if they go that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 This iffense scheme doesnt benefit the TE.....Bills arent an attractive spot for any UFAs of note. You can draft a decent TE later in the draft. for receiving optiond Dickerson can serve the role at TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBeane Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 So in the year that Scott Chandler broke the franchise record for TD's by a TE we have people in here claiming that Chan doesn't even know what a TE is?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 3 or 4 catches a game is nice, but.....it's not really keying on the TE. Chandler is solid, but he's slow. Not the modern athletic Gronk/Hernandez/Graham type. We need one of those too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 3 or 4 catches a game is nice, but.....it's not really keying on the TE. Chandler is solid, but he's slow. Not the modern athletic Gronk/Hernandez/Graham type. We need one of those too. He may be slow but he is averaging more YPC than Stevie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Like it or not, Belichick is on the fore of this. True dual-threat TEs that, more than just being an outlet / dump-off option, have all the skills of a WR only in a bigger body. LBs can't keep pace with them, CBs are too small to cover. It's not just this defense that Hernandez and Gronk have destroyed. It's a tactical advantage that many teams just can't handle. David Nelson is a de facto second TE. I'd say it can't hurt to pick up a guy like the ND TE, if he can be gotten in place or if he slips a bit into whatever round (I'm guessing early 2nd). Biggest part of it, tho, is going to be a QB who can throw them the ball. But that's in another thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 (edited) ACL tears are nothing these days. He'll be back for reg season. As someone who just had ACL reconstruction, I can tell you that they are not "nothing these days." They drill into the two largest bones of your body and attach either a part of you that they cut from somewhere else (patella tendon or hamstring) or they got from a dead guy (probably less likely to work but less pain). They cannot just fix the ACL. They have to make a new one. Yes, methods are better now, but it would be very aggressive for him to be back for the start of the regular season, although not impossible. Even athletes are not jogging often until months into the rehab. If he is able to make it next year then he will not be near 100% until well into the season if ever. Edited December 26, 2012 by Arkady Renko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 3 or 4 catches a game is nice, but.....it's not really keying on the TE. Chandler is solid, but he's slow. Not the modern athletic Gronk/Hernandez/Graham type. We need one of those too. Chandler is solid, but he has been a no-show for most of the 2nd half of the season (Just like last year). And Fitz stops finding him when he needs him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOldBill12 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Jared Cook anyone? I bet he'd be a top Top 5 TE in the league if he went to a team that would actually use him properly and a doesn't have a sorry excuse for a QB (Jake Locker is garbage). Of course we would probably do the same.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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