Tipster19 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 High risk is not having a viable #2 QB when our starting QB takes an absolute beating every week. Also keep in mind that a player like Tebow could help offset the lack of a offensive line to some degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 (edited) Expands on ESPN: Teams that have discussed a trade for quarterback Tim Tebow, either internally or with the Denver Broncos, include the Jacksonville Jaguars, Green Bay Packers, Miami Dolphins and New York Jets, a league source said. Can we end this? Another thing is there is an ENORMOUS difference between discussing a trade internally and calling the Broncos to discuss a possible trade. Schefter said the Jets talked about trading for him between themselves, not with Denver. I'd imagine that virtually every single team in the NFL had internal discussions about trading for Tebow. I hope the Bills had internal discussions about trading for Tebow even though I wouldn't trade Tim Connolly for Tim Tebow. It's the smart, prudent, only thing to do. Edited March 20, 2012 by Kelly the Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglukes Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 High risk is not having a viable #2 QB when our starting QB takes an absolute beating every week. What beating is that? We did give up the fewest sacks in the league. His rib injury occurred on a single hit. It wasn't like it was an accumulated thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Ok but how is he better. Your making statements but you don't have anything to back it up. Is it his completion percentage? His career rating? His one career game with a completion percentage over 52% last year? In our pass first offense how is he better than Tyler? So stats make a complete argument? No intangibles, like winning. took a 4 win team and doubled the total, won a playoff game. If it has to be stats: I would think he and thigpen have about the same amount of games played career...and are similar in numbers. the stats aren't good for either .....but neither are Fitz's and people seem to think hes a top 10 qb around here. I would say in terms of potential upside, for the BACKUP, it's no match. I would like to see him in a Gailey-run system. I think that would be his best shot as a pro....and we have that opportunity....on the cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 So stats make a complete argument? No intangibles, like winning. took a 4 win team and doubled the total, won a playoff game. If it has to be stats: I would think he and thigpen have about the same amount of games played career...and are similar in numbers. the stats aren't good for either .....but neither are Fitz's and people seem to think hes a top 10 qb around here. I would say in terms of potential upside, for the BACKUP, it's no match. I would like to see him in a Gailey-run system. I think that would be his best shot as a pro....and we have that opportunity....on the cheap. Agree to disagree. I think Buffalo bringing him in would be the worst thing to do right now. JMO based on everything ive seen with Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglukes Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 So stats make a complete argument? No intangibles, like winning. took a 4 win team and doubled the total, won a playoff game. If it has to be stats: I would think he and thigpen have about the same amount of games played career...and are similar in numbers. the stats aren't good for either .....but neither are Fitz's and people seem to think hes a top 10 qb around here. I would say in terms of potential upside, for the BACKUP, it's no match. I would like to see him in a Gailey-run system. I think that would be his best shot as a pro....and we have that opportunity....on the cheap. A Gailey run system means reading the field and making quick decisions with the ball. Tebow has shown he can't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 What beating is that? We did give up the fewest sacks in the league. His rib injury occurred on a single hit. It wasn't like it was an accumulated thing. So sacks are the only hits a QB takes? If he didn't have a quick release, he may have been dead based on some of the non-sack hits he took last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 So stats make a complete argument? No intangibles, like winning. took a 4 win team and doubled the total, won a playoff game. If it has to be stats: I would think he and thigpen have about the same amount of games played career...and are similar in numbers. the stats aren't good for either .....but neither are Fitz's and people seem to think hes a top 10 qb around here. I would say in terms of potential upside, for the BACKUP, it's no match. I would like to see him in a Gailey-run system. I think that would be his best shot as a pro....and we have that opportunity....on the cheap. So you want to see Tebow in a system that relies upon the QB's ability to READ DEFENSES quickly and then make ACCURATE throws in a timely manner? Brilliant. Sounds like freaking peas and carrots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglukes Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 (edited) So sacks are the only hits a QB takes? If he didn't have a quick release, he may have been dead based on some of the non-sack hits he took last year. You're making my case. Quick release is not something Tebow has. You want to see him in a system that relies on quick reads and releases, a system that he is not at all suited for. So by this logic Tebow playing in our system will be an unmitigated disaster and he will get killed. Because our system is not options and 7 pass attempts a game. Edited March 20, 2012 by biglukes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I understand your concern but in light of Terrell Owens I think that we would be alright, especially that that was even a different administration/players and I think that are even better in those areas. I think that it's actually one of our strengths (lockerroom/chemistry). The Denver team had decent success last year, yes? Have you heard any Denver players that sound upset? Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Schefter tweets that the Jets have considered trading for Tebow I think Tannenbaum has started to lose it anyway, and not sure we should still consider him a reliable talent evaluator, considering... "He could catch a 100 balls ... or he could be a special teamer," said Tannenbaum (of Chaz Schillens) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Please God someone trade for him so thus thread will go away. Miami, hook us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 yeah..let's end this....we have to teach Mario the QB position... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I think Tannenbaum has started to lose it anyway, and not sure we should still consider him a reliable talent evaluator, considering... His ESPN update also said it's a long shot for Jets to trade for Tebow. Must be going after the evangelical market in the NYC area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Please God someone trade for him so thus thread will go away. Miami, hook us up. I am willing to participate in a prayer vigil for Tebow to go anywhere but here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 His ESPN update also said it's a long shot for Jets to trade for Tebow. Must be going after the evangelical market in the NYC area. Tebow would fit in perfectly in NYC, just another crazy person walking up and down the streets singing to himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglukes Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I am willing to participate in a prayer vigil for Tebow to go anywhere but here. Where do I sign up for said "keep Tebow away" vigil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Where do I sign up for said "keep Tebow away" vigil? Look for the Occupy TIMTEBOW banners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Update: Packers only willing to part with a late round pick Dolphins likely out of the 'race' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Update: Packers only willing to part with a late round pick Dolphins likely out of the 'race' But... but..... but.... he just wins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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