Kaenon Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 2012 Salary Numbers: Dwan Edwards: $3.8M........................... (& $3.65M in 2013), age = 31 in May Drayton Florence: $4.0M....................... (& $5.00M in 2013), age = 32 in December Spencer Johnson: $3.0M........................ (FA in 2013), age = 31 in December Chris Kelsay: $3.5M.............................. ($3.725M in 2013), age = 33 in October George Wilson: $1.75M......................... ($2.00M in 2013), age = turned 31 two days ago This is $16.05M in 2012 salary for guys for which none of them are guaranteed starters, and they are all in their 30s. Just curious as to what your thoughts were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 2012 Salary Numbers: Dwan Edwards: $3.8M........................... (& $3.65M in 2013), age = 31 in May Drayton Florence: $4.0M....................... (& $5.00M in 2013), age = 32 in December Spencer Johnson: $3.0M........................ (FA in 2013), age = 31 in December Chris Kelsay: $3.5M.............................. ($3.725M in 2013), age = 33 in October George Wilson: $1.75M......................... ($2.00M in 2013), age = turned 31 two days ago This is $16.05M in 2012 salary for guys for which none of them are guaranteed starters, and they are all in their 30s. Just curious as to what your thoughts were. George Wilson, Drayton Florence and Chris Kelsey should not be on this list for "trimming." I was especially taken aback when I saw George Wilson up there. He and Byrd are a fantastic tandem. Were we watching different games? He is for sure a guarenteed starter, and a good one at that imo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 2012 Salary Numbers: Dwan Edwards: $3.8M........................... (& $3.65M in 2013), age = 31 in May Drayton Florence: $4.0M....................... (& $5.00M in 2013), age = 32 in December Spencer Johnson: $3.0M........................ (FA in 2013), age = 31 in December Chris Kelsay: $3.5M.............................. ($3.725M in 2013), age = 33 in October George Wilson: $1.75M......................... ($2.00M in 2013), age = turned 31 two days ago This is $16.05M in 2012 salary for guys for which none of them are guaranteed starters, and they are all in their 30s. Just curious as to what your thoughts were. Florence will start, Kelsay will probably start (given Merriman's injury), and Wilson will start. We could still save the $6.8M on Edwards and Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 George Wilson, Drayton Florence and Chris Kelsey should not be on this list for "trimming." I was especially taken aback when I saw George Wilson up there. He and Byrd are a fantastic tandem. Were we watching different games? He is for sure a guarenteed starter, and a good one at that imo! I thought Searcy played very well as a rookie and could possibly earn himself a starting spot on this defense in 2012. Florence has the best shot to start, and Kelsay could be expendable with Carrington and another draft pick. Oh, and although Merriman has a $4.0M base salary, I think $3.0M of that is guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) If there are better players available to replace them at comparable cost, than yes. Otherwise, no. Every team has average quality players and none of those guys are that expensive. Edited March 16, 2012 by KD in CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Edwards and Johnson are most definitely on the block...I'd honestly release Edwards as soon as possible. Not because he's not a talented guy, and he sure played hard for us and did whatever we asked of him...but its unfair to keep a pure 3-4 DE in a 4-3 system. I say free him up and give him the chance to sign up with another squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Florence will start, Kelsay will probably start (given Merriman's injury), and Wilson will start. We could still save the $6.8M on Edwards and Johnson. Those guys are all worth keeping, and I'd hold Spencer Johnson as well. He could be the team's third DT and helpful to us in that role as depth and in the rotation. We'll get him off the books next year. Edwards I can go either way on. Solid football player and good against the run, but a better fit for a 3-4 than our 4-3, even though he's capable at DT. I just don't know if he's worth it at 3.8M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) Just read over at Rotoworld per Lombardi, Wimbley is one of a handful of veterans, including Cardinals QB Kevin Kolb, Ravens LT Bryant McKinnie, Eagles CB Joselio Hanson, and Bills DE Spencer Johnson, with roster bonuses due. Will the Bills want to pay now that they've signed Williams? Edited March 16, 2012 by Kaenon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Dwan Edwards and Spencer Johnson are the only ones I'd cut, at this point. If we pick up players in the draft that can instantly play better than the others, then I'd look into those as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Did someone just advocate cutting George Wilson, who is making less than $2 million per season? Do you even watch the Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turn Down For Watkins Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I think one of Spencer Johnson/Dwan Edwards goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Did someone just advocate cutting George Wilson, who is making less than $2 million per season? Do you even watch the Bills? Man I thought I was never going to get backed up on that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 If there are better players available to replace them at comparable cost, than yes. Otherwise, no. Every team has average quality players and none of those guys are that expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rev.Mattb74 ESQ. Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I dont see much of a reason to cut anyone at the moment, wait to see how everything is in camp. You only cut people now if they are grossly overpaid or trying to free up money to make another move. Niether is the case. I dont see much of a reason to cut anyone at the moment, wait to see how everything is in camp. You only cut people now if they are grossly overpaid or trying to free up money to make another move. Niether is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Man I looked at this thread title, and thought it said Do the Bills need some trim Ans i was like of course they do..don't we all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafter Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I thought Searcy played very well as a rookie and could possibly earn himself a starting spot on this defense in 2012. Florence has the best shot to start, and Kelsay could be expendable with Carrington and another draft pick. Oh, and although Merriman has a $4.0M base salary, I think $3.0M of that is guaranteed. There were times last year when Wilson was the best player on the field.. He is not expendable and neither is Kelsay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 The OP lost all credibility with me the moment I saw Wilson's name on the list. Edwards should be gone, we won't cut any of the others. Florence will either have to be cut next year or restructure his contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overseas Bills Fan Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 2012 Salary Numbers: Dwan Edwards: $3.8M........................... (& $3.65M in 2013), age = 31 in May Drayton Florence: $4.0M....................... (& $5.00M in 2013), age = 32 in December Spencer Johnson: $3.0M........................ (FA in 2013), age = 31 in December Chris Kelsay: $3.5M.............................. ($3.725M in 2013), age = 33 in October George Wilson: $1.75M......................... ($2.00M in 2013), age = turned 31 two days ago This is $16.05M in 2012 salary for guys for which none of them are guaranteed starters, and they are all in their 30s. Just curious as to what your thoughts were. Wilson stays, Florence, Kelsay stays (yuck). Spencer Johnson's on the bubble, Edwards should be gone like yesterday's diapers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 GW was being mentioned as a DPOY candidate last year before his injury and the teams skid. He has been playing like a top 5 safety for the last few seasons. Florence, whatever you want to say about him, is our best CB. D Edwards is still productive and is likely our 3rd DT. Kelsay is a starter, had his best two season his last two season, and he has nudie pics of Ralph. Johnson is the only one I see getting cut. PS How did McKelvin not make this list? Troup too, although I have no idea how much he makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Get rid of Pigpen better to have Brad Smith as the main backup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 2012 Salary Numbers: Dwan Edwards: $3.8M........................... (& $3.65M in 2013), age = 31 in May Drayton Florence: $4.0M....................... (& $5.00M in 2013), age = 32 in December Spencer Johnson: $3.0M........................ (FA in 2013), age = 31 in December Chris Kelsay: $3.5M.............................. ($3.725M in 2013), age = 33 in October George Wilson: $1.75M......................... ($2.00M in 2013), age = turned 31 two days ago This is $16.05M in 2012 salary for guys for which none of them are guaranteed starters, and they are all in their 30s. Just curious as to what your thoughts were. Everything must GO!!! We need Kamerion Wimbley!!!! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 This thread or this thread: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/143368-im-sure-ill-get-call-stupid-for-this-but-id-sign-evans-and-maybin-back/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Man I thought I was never going to get backed up on that! I got you. Still stunned he was even mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Did someone just advocate cutting George Wilson, who is making less than $2 million per season? Do you even watch the Bills? You did indeed read that very thing, and it's fair to ask that very question. Wilson stays in any rational world. Edwards is a pure 3-4 end and has struggled with injuries. He's played hard for us, and deserves a chance to look for a 3-4 team. His $5M could go to resign Jackson or sign draftees, so I think he may be on the block. Johnson was totally asked to play out-of-position last year -- any defense featuring Johnson and Kelsey as LB is a bad defense -- he played gamely and I don't really have a good handle on his quality as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I definitely read this as: Do the Bills need any trim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMario Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Get rid of Florence, Johnson, and Edwards. All three make way to much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Agreed with those that said Edwards should be released, or should have been released already. Wilson, Kelsay, and Florence should all stay, and will see a lot of playing time. Spencer Johnson should be kept as well. I think he is much better than people give him credit for. Remember, he played DT until he got to Buffalo, and then moved to DE, and then to OLB. Only George Edwards would try to make a DT into an OLB. I think moving him back to DT and letting him play DT/DE backup is good depth at good value. Something we've been trying to build all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Get rid of Pigpen better to have Brad Smith as the main backup ^^^^^^^^^^^ This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybe Someday Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 2012 Salary Numbers: Dwan Edwards: $3.8M........................... (& $3.65M in 2013), age = 31 in May Drayton Florence: $4.0M....................... (& $5.00M in 2013), age = 32 in December Spencer Johnson: $3.0M........................ (FA in 2013), age = 31 in December Chris Kelsay: $3.5M.............................. ($3.725M in 2013), age = 33 in October George Wilson: $1.75M......................... ($2.00M in 2013), age = turned 31 two days ago This is $16.05M in 2012 salary for guys for which none of them are guaranteed starters, and they are all in their 30s. Just curious as to what your thoughts were. Spencer Johnson had a great preseason last year when he was playing on the d-line. Once we moved him to LB, he was terrible…I still don’t understand how any coach thought that was a good idea. Keep him and he’s probably our 3rd DT. Florence should be better with an actual pass rush, as should the rest of our DBs. I agree he’s not great but is decent enough until someone else steps up to replace him. I would try and trade Dwan Edwards, there’s got to be some 3-4 team that would give up a mid to late round pick for him. He played hard a fairly well. Based on the roster as it is now, we need to hang onto Kelsay for at least 1 more year. I don’t want to cut him, have Merriman and another lineman go down and then have no one to replace them. We need quality depth on the d-line so we can keep a solid rotation going and make sure Mario, Marcel & Kyle are fresh near the end of the game. I really hope this is the year Carrington & Troup break out. Cut George Wilson?!?!?!? Puff-puff-give my friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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