Sniper Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Link and Pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Roscoe better find a realtor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Upshaw would be a tremendous pick. played the hybrid lb/de role for the tide probably a top 10ish pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan in n.h Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 look at the size of upshaws arms!!! holy crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Upshaw would be a tremendous pick. played the hybrid lb/de role for the tide probably a top 10ish pick No thanks, can't rush the passer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 watched the practice today. upshaw and couples looked pretty good. both ahead of ingram. but upshaw blew up a handfull of plays today that i saw and had multiple wins on 1-1 drills with different moves bullrush/rips/speed rushes. coples looked good too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 watched the practice today. upshaw and couples looked pretty good. both ahead of ingram. but upshaw blew up a handfull of plays today that i saw and had multiple wins on 1-1 drills with different moves bullrush/rips/speed rushes. coples looked good too guess we saw different practices then. Ingram got back to the passer every time in pass rush drills and upshaw only outside passed rushed and only got back there once, coples was 50/50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 Upshaw has been having GREAT practices and is stronger than most DE/OLBs. He is a Lamarr Woodley clone, and I've been matching up footage of both of them. Â Look out for Buddy Nixon's podcasts/profiles for draft knowledge and how it matter to the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Upshaw has been having GREAT practices and is stronger than most DE/OLBs. He is a Lamarr Woodley clone, and I've been matching up footage of both of them. Â Look out for Buddy Nixon's podcasts/profiles for draft knowledge and how it matter to the Bills. Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I would not be disappointed with Upshaw. He is like Dareus, pretty much a sure fire starter and really good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welborn9 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 guess we saw different practices then. Ingram got back to the passer every time in pass rush drills and upshaw only outside passed rushed and only got back there once, coples was 50/50. Â Thats more like the practice I saw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Link and Pictures  I've kind of lost my appetite for extremely undersized WR's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 No thanks, can't rush the passer  He had 9.5 sacks and the second most takles for loss in the country. How can you say that he can't rush the passer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBD Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 He had 9.5 sacks and the second most takles for loss in the country. How can you say that he can't rush the passer? It's not as though he's completely incapable and he's a good all around type player, but his main strength isn't as a pass rusher & there are better pass rushers available in this draft class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 It's not as though he's completely incapable and he's a good all around type player, but his main strength isn't as a pass rusher & there are better pass rushers available in this draft class. Â Agree. I do think he will be a great LB, and could rush the passer just fine out of the 3-4, but the Bills may not use that scheme. It's unknown how he would fare as a DE. Â Personally I don't think this is a very impressive class of pass rushers overall, unfortunately for the Bills. Hopefully the Bills FO will do their homework and pick the guy that can help us the most. Whether that is Upshaw or someone else. Â Maze is a less proven version of Roscoe Parrish...Pass.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I've kind of lost my appetite for extremely undersized WR's... Â have to agree with you on that one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair GM Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 have to agree with you on that one.... Ditto...and for being as small as he is, you'd expect mid to high 4.3's in the 40...not 4.5...PASS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheddar's Dad Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I've kind of lost my appetite for extremely undersized WR's... Â I guess you don't appreciate Welker and have you seen Rainey, the receiver from Florida? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jangalang Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Upshaw Picture  Here's a better picture of the 273 lb Upshaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 1327499810[/url]' post='2370593']I guess you don't appreciate Welker and have you seen Rainey, the receiver from Florida? Â There's so many great midget WRs..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 There's so many great midget WRs..... If and I mean big IF we go for a smallish receiver I would much prefer Ryan Broyles. He's projected as a mid round pick and was extremely productive for Oklahoma. That said Buddy has a history of drafting big receivers. Look at SD's wr draft picks and you will see they are mostly mid rounders with height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) I guess you don't appreciate Welker and have you seen Rainey, the receiver from Florida? Â Welker plays with Brady. I am by no means saying he is not a talented receiver, but if he plays for the Bills he would be lucky to put up half the numbers he did with NE. Â I never said that small receivers can't be good, but let's be honest, they rarely make anywhere near the impact that the big guys do... The bigger receivers can compensate for bad QB'ing to some extent, and make plays even when covered. Â Yes, I know, Maze would likely be a late round pick so there is not much risk. I wouldn't be pissed if we took him in the 6th. My point was simply that I want to see the Bills get quality, big receivers. Edited January 25, 2012 by Turbosrrgood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 guess we saw different practices then. Ingram got back to the passer every time in pass rush drills and upshaw only outside passed rushed and only got back there once, coples was 50/50. Â I will admit to only seeing the recap on the NFL channel and then of course you only see highlights. Ingram did look good, I did not think he looked better than Upshaw. Body type wise they are pretty close. When we evaluate player it is important to see strengths and weaknesses then as the follow up question ask, "Will this player be able to use his strength to overcome his weakness at the next level? Upshaw may not have super speed but he uses his core strength and balance to defeat his opposition. Couples is not exceptionally fast but he uses his length to gain leverage. The bills could wind up with Ingram because I have seen drafts where Couples and Upshaw are gone by 10. I have not seen any drafts where Ingram is gone at 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I guess you don't appreciate Welker and have you seen Rainey, the receiver from Florida? Welker is 5'11 and is built....Maze and Parrish are maybe 5'5 and scrawny...not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I've kind of lost my appetite for extremely undersized WR's... Yea, but maybe he's a "runner"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UticaBill Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Welker is 5'9" and 185lbs. Parrish is 5'9" and 175lbs. Â I think they compare very favorably to each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syrcuse315 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 one thing not a lot of people know about coples is that UNC for some odd reason played him as a DT most of his career and he still ended up with good sack numbers. Being 6'6" 285 is a horrible build for an interior linemen and UNC made a horrible decision to play him as such. Whenever he lined up as a DE he destroyed OT's in no time. he has the perfect size and long arms to be a huge threat as a true DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 GOOD!  Upshaw in the 1st Hightower in the 2nd Maize in the 3rd  Git'r'dun!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 What I really want to know is how Upshaw would fare as a DE in a 4-3 scheme...... Â I am wondering if this would help him or hurt him. Â Either way....you are getting a solid player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 look at the size of upshaws arms!!! holy crap  I wouldn't pick a fight with that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 What I really want to know is how Upshaw would fare as a DE in a 4-3 scheme......  I am wondering if this would help him or hurt him.  Either way....you are getting a solid player  I know I sound like a broken record, but I think that Upshaw can turn into a John Abraham-type 43DE. They are about the same size, Upshaw an inch or two shorter, but just as heavy and strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 He had 9.5 sacks and the second most takles for loss in the country. How can you say that he can't rush the passer? Â Because Buffalo Barbarian has a HUGE, almost creepy man crush on Tannehill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 All I know is Upshaw looks like a immovable object who has the right size, strength, and has consistantly been doing it at a high level..... Â This sounds like a good fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 McShay has Upshaw rated as the best pass rusher at the Senior Bowl for all those that say he can't rush the passer. He did gush a bit about Ingram as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Adding these guys would be cool. Pass rusher to help out, and a KR and slot receiver to replace Roscoe. Bigger, hopefully more durable, for less money. Shrewd. Â Would be great if it worked out that way and they both produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Thats more like the practice I saw Seen the same also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Upshaw would be a tremendous pick. played the hybrid lb/de role for the tide probably a top 10ish pick  Yeah, that's what I want to see the Bills draft. Another hybrid LB/DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Yeah, that's what I want to see the Bills draft. Another hybrid LB/DE. Why not? I mean if he can play both positions at a high level. It seems to me more teams are going to be running various fronts. The rules of the game now dictate that Defenses have got to out scheme Offenses, You have got to have flexible players that can play different positions. Heck who would have thought you would have DL covering a TE or RB. It happens a lot in zone blitzes. This type of D was not around 20 years ago. Players are now so much faster for their size...it takes findinig a guy who can handle learning and reacting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 Where? Â They will be released starting on Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I guess you don't appreciate Welker and have you seen Rainey, the receiver from Florida? Rainey is getting raves from the NFLN people today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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