Beerball Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 This doesn't affect the 'outoftowners' like me, but what do you locals think? How does Brandon's statement strike you? It's not something that we're interested in participating in, because it devalues our product. Isn't this the real reason? Also, some owners just don't like the idea of artificial sellouts, which give fans the impression that non-sold-out games still will be televised. link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Brandon is performing a public service based on the comments I'm reading. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 66% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 This doesn't affect the 'outoftowners' like me, but what do you locals think? How does Brandon's statement strike you? Isn't this the real reason? link Russell is a marketing genuis. Lucky Baby, Lucky Baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 66% I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills14 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I think its even more pathetic that western ny as a whole with a population of roughly 2.5 million complains that the bills wont buy the remaining tickets...i want to watch the bills, so ill be at the game. I just find it hard to believe that our "fan base" had such a pessimistic view even at 5-2 that no one bought tickets to these games earlier in the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 anyone see the Cincinnati game at all? It was about 70% full. COntending team vs an inner-state rival. NFL isnt quite as plush as they make everyone believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBD Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 anyone see the Cincinnati game at all? It was about 70% full. COntending team vs an inner-state rival. NFL isnt quite as plush as they make everyone believe. With high def tvs, red zone channel and the comfort of your own home there are too many reasons to not go to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) This one falls on the chin of Buffalonians and Buffaloians alone. For the rest of the civilized world, a road trip weekend immediately following Thanksgiving is a tall order for a team that's now below .500, on a four game losing skid and on the outside looking in. And that's not even accounting for the weather and, as someone already mentioned, the viewing experience you get at home or even in a bar. Edited November 29, 2011 by The Big Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect! What's that Fredo? Actually I think he's more like Mr. Smithers from the Simpsons. This one falls on the chin of Buffalonians and Buffaloians alone. For the rest of the civilized world, a road trip weekend immediately following Thanksgiving is a tall order for a team that's now below .500, on a four game losing skid and on the outside looking in. And that's not even accounting for the weather and, as someone already mentioned, the viewing experience you get at home or even in a bar. So it's Buffalo fans' fault that they don't go, but then you list the reasons why they're probably not going? What's that supposed to mean? But I'll be there regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I think its even more pathetic that western ny as a whole with a population of roughly 2.5 million complains that the bills wont buy the remaining tickets...i want to watch the bills, so ill be at the game. I just find it hard to believe that our "fan base" had such a pessimistic view even at 5-2 that no one bought tickets to these games earlier in the year Oh but if this game was to be played in Toronto the hue and cry would be deafening. How can rhey take away games from such loyal fans? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I don't understand the "So, the Bills won't buy..." title. The Bills aren't obligated to buy unsold tickets just so locals can sit home and watch the game for free on TV. As most know, the blackout rule is there just so that people don't avoid going to the game because they could otherwise watch it for free on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 I don't understand the "So, the Bills won't buy..." title. The Bills aren't obligated to buy unsold tickets just so locals can sit home and watch the game for free on TV. As most know, the blackout rule is there just so that people don't avoid going to the game because they could otherwise watch it for free on TV. What part of it confuses you? What part makes you think that the team is obligated in any fashion to purchase tickets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 John Murphy and Mark Kelso time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 How exactly does a team "buy" tickets from themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 What's that Fredo? Actually I think he's more like Mr. Smithers from the Simpsons. So it's Buffalo fans' fault that they don't go, but then you list the reasons why they're probably not going? What's that supposed to mean? But I'll be there regardless. Don't get me wrong, it's a tough sell for the locals, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 There are always a hundred things to do around the holidays. At this point in the season(lost 4 in a row, still can't play defense, offense is up and down), I will watch them if they are on TV, and if not, I will find something to keep me busy, other than sitting in the living room glued to my radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 How exactly does a team "buy" tickets from themselves? Revenue from tickets gets split with the visiting team. So, the Bills can "buy" meaning pay the 34% of ticket revenue that goes to the visitor, and then distrbute the tickets how they see fit. Also, a local business, tv station etc can buy the tickets at that same 66% discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since 1972 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I think its even more pathetic that western ny as a whole with a population of roughly 2.5 million complains that the bills wont buy the remaining tickets...i want to watch the bills, so ill be at the game. I just find it hard to believe that our "fan base" had such a pessimistic view even at 5-2 that no one bought tickets to these games earlier in the year What does history teach us...umm, that the Bills tendency to self-destruct makes it prudent to not look to far ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 What does history teach us...umm, that the Bills tendency to self-destruct makes it prudent to not look to far ahead. And those that had a pessimistic view were dead on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Ralph is cheap, why does this constantly surprise people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 This doesn't affect the 'outoftowners' like me, but what do you locals think? How does Brandon's statement strike you? Isn't this the real reason? link Lol it devalues the product... you know what else devalues the product: not bringing in talent, not keeping your best players, failing in the draft each and every year, not spending to the cap, bringing in mediocre coaches/gms... Not making the playoffs in over a decade.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 What part of it confuses you? What part makes you think that the team is obligated in any fashion to purchase tickets? I don't, as my reply indicated. And if you don't as well, I guess I misread the intentions behind your title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Ralph is cheap, why does this constantly surprise people? I need new tires. Will you buy them for me? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Oh but if this game was to be played in Toronto the hue and cry would be deafening. How can rhey take away games from such loyal fans? PTR Sell a product/service that is worth buying and at a price that is affordable to your target market. That's how I have to operate my business to get sales. I can't just cry that the public is not being faithful to my poor company or issue veiled threat that I may relocate if they don't shape up. As we've heard many times... it's a business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Sell a product/service that is worth buying and at a price that is affordable to your target market. That's how I have to operate my business to get sales. I can't just cry that the public is not being faithful to my poor company or issue veiled threat that I may relocate if they don't shape up. As we've heard many times... it's a business. You can't compare your business to the NFL. No way, no how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Sell a product/service that is worth buying and at a price that is affordable to your target market. That's how I have to operate my business to get sales. I can't just cry that the public is not being faithful to my poor company or issue veiled threat that I may relocate if they don't shape up. As we've heard many times... it's a business. So I should abort plans to toodle around in my xenon-powered sub-marine helicopter, hurling free diamond-studded caviar unto the Chippewa bar-goers below? I was told that was the best way to promote my buy-a-mega-yacht-send-your-kid-to-a-Swiss-equestrian-summer-camp-for-half-off business... Oh well. Newspaper industry it is. That's where the money is, and always will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drhockey Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Lol it devalues the product... you know what else devalues the product: not bringing in talent, not keeping your best players, failing in the draft each and every year, not spending to the cap, bringing in mediocre coaches/gms... Not making the playoffs in over a decade.. This x1,000 So true. Say what you want about us as fans at times like this, but honestly, how much more of this can we go through? You'd figure at some point in the past 10+ years that we'd even get lucky and fall into something that would gives us some much needed hope and excitement. The first half of this season was fun, no doubt, but weren't we all waiting for the bottom to drop out at some point? Life of a Buffalo fan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Sell a product/service that is worth buying and at a price that is affordable to your target market. That's how I have to operate my business to get sales. I can't just cry that the public is not being faithful to my poor company or issue veiled threat that I may relocate if they don't shape up. As we've heard many times... it's a business. So why do you care what they do if it's such a business? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 So why do you care what they do if it's such a business? PTR Because I enjoy football, it entertains me (at times) and it's something to talk about with friends from different parts of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I dont mind the fact that they arent preventing the blackout. That statement by Brandon is pretty crummy and irks me. I dont like the guy as it is though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 You can't compare your business to the NFL. No way, no how. Yes you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Yes you can. I wanna play along! Is your business a non-profit comprised of 32 entities who engage in friendly competition designed to enhance your market share against other 30some-entity conglomerates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 This doesn't affect the 'outoftowners' like me, but what do you locals think? How does Brandon's statement strike you? Isn't this the real reason? link It's not something that we're interested in participating in, because it devalues our product after 12 years of meaningless games come every December, how much more devalued can you get, really? In no way, shape or form are the Bill obligated morally or contractually to purchase out tickets..... But you have to think come next season, NFC WEST and AFC SOUTH, how many games will Buffalo residents be willing to purchase? The Divisional games for sure, but next year could be ugly. I can't help but think of gurgling sounds around a drain next year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) Oh but if this game was to be played in Toronto the hue and cry would be deafening. How can rhey take away games from such loyal fans? PTR If this game was played in Toronto there would be a lot more empty Canadian seats. Just to remind you the Toronto group gave away a lot of very discounted and also free tickets so the stadium wouldn't look too embarrassingly vacant for those up north games. What you don't realize is that a lack of demand is mostly due the poor product. A generation of organizational ineptitude has a dampening affect. Edited November 29, 2011 by JohnC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 after 12 years of meaningless games come every December, how much more devalued can you get, really? In no way, shape or form are the Bill obligated morally or contractually to purchase out tickets..... But you have to think come next season, NFC WEST and AFC SOUTH, how many games will Buffalo residents be willing to purchase? The Divisional games for sure, but next year could be ugly. I can't help but think of gurgling sounds around a drain next year... This logic doesn't follow. On what planet? Of those 8 games, only two teams present a clear and present threat as of this moment in time: Houston and San Fran. And even both of those teams are very, very beatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 What part of it confuses you? What part makes you think that the team is obligated in any fashion to purchase tickets? The tenor of the article (not to mention the phrasing of the thread title ) makes it sound like the Bills should just cough up a few hundred grand to help out the locals who won't purchase tickets the game. Can't say I'd write that check either if I owned the team. Brandon's statement is just marketing fluff that really shouldn't be analyzed for meaning. What he really means is "!@#$ off and go buy a ticket if you want to see the game so badly". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBD Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 This logic doesn't follow. On what planet? Of those 8 games, only two teams present a clear and present threat as of this moment in time: Houston and San Fran. And even both of those teams are very, very beatable. I think he means from a standpoint of ticket sales, not many people want to pay to see the teams from that division nor do their fanbases travel well. But if those teams present a weak schedule a winning season could change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I think he means from a standpoint of ticket sales, not many people want to pay to see the teams from that division nor do their fanbases travel well. But if those teams present a weak schedule a winning season could change that. Precisely why the logic doesn't follow. Conditions next year are most favorable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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