buffalo1983 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) rest of season (Achilles tendon) Update: Has been placed on IR Edited November 8, 2011 by buffalo1983 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 It ain't a matter of "if", it's "when" the Bills place Kyle on IR, what is their short term plan and longer term plan? Do they bring in a player thatcan play and contrigute right now, or do they just fill a roster spot? What I think we know... 1) Kyle cannot be an everydown NT in the NFL, assuming he can return to form next season. Bills are paying big money for him, so he has to play somewhere, DE? 2) Torrell Troup sucks. When you are drafted in the second round and you ain't contributing significantly, it's time to cut your losses. 3) George Edwards is clueless. He doesn't know WTF defesnse to play... 3-4, 4-3, or 5-2 (what they played against the Skins a week ago). Two years into a supposed transition to the 3-4 and they still don't have a legitimate NT or outside LB. "Lights Out" is done and he ain't comin back. What I think will happen... 1) short term, Bills seem to be thin at OLB. Batten is the only legitimate OLB, although Moats has done time there with so-so results. Kelsay ain't an OLB he's a 4-3 DE and when he has to drop back in coverage it's a disaster. So, my guess an OLB will be added when Kyle goes on IR and be evaluated over the latter part of the season. 2) Best case scenario, the Bills go 4-4 down the stretch and miss the playoffs. 3) George Edwards gets canned at the end of the season and Wanny takes over as the DC. I'm more than OK with canning Edwards... he never should have been hired for the DC position. But, Wanny being promoted means you're looking at going back to the 4-3... tha's all Wanny knows....plus I've never been a fan of Wanny... I don't think he's all he's been made out to be. But, when Edwards gets canned, I don't see the Bills considering anyone but Wanny because I believer the hired him as Asst Head coach and brought him in here specifically because they knew Edwards was way in over his head. 4) With Wanny at the helm as DC, if Kyle comes back next year fully recovered, you'll probably see Darius & Kyle inside, Kelsay at one DE spot and the other either through the draft of free agency... someone with pass rushing skills in the 260 lb. range. You'll probably continue to see Barnett in the middle backed up by Sheppard. The two outside LBs will likely be aquired via free agency and the draft. Basically a continual rebuild The most disappointing thing is, over the past 4-5 years of the Bills consistently ranked in the bottom third on defense (offense too until this season) you'd have thought they would have addressed that by now. But, drafting schmucks like Whitner at #8, then going out on a limb for McCargo, then McKelvin at #11, Troup in the 2nd round, wasting a #13 on Maybin, a #9 on Spliller, and then only one of your draft picks this year is making a significant contribution gives any fan pause that the Bills FO are serious about fielding a competitive team.... just gimmick after gimmick (T.O., Merriman, Spiller to sell a freakin ticket. Personally, I'd like to see both Wanny and Edwards gone and once and for all make the complete swith to the 3-4. Bring in a real 3-4 DC (Man Gina's still out there) and a real NT and a couple of 3-4 OLBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo1983 Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 Answer: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/138163-williams-expected-to-miss/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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joejoebills Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 It ain't a matter of "if", it's "when" the Bills place Kyle on IR, what is their short term plan and longer term plan? Do they bring in a player thatcan play and contrigute right now, or do they just fill a roster spot? What I think we know... 1) Kyle cannot be an everydown NT in the NFL, assuming he can return to form next season. Bills are paying big money for him, so he has to play somewhere, DE? 2) Torrell Troup sucks. When you are drafted in the second round and you ain't contributing significantly, it's time to cut your losses. 3) George Edwards is clueless. He doesn't know WTF defesnse to play... 3-4, 4-3, or 5-2 (what they played against the Skins a week ago). Two years into a supposed transition to the 3-4 and they still don't have a legitimate NT or outside LB. "Lights Out" is done and he ain't comin back. What I think will happen... 1) short term, Bills seem to be thin at OLB. Batten is the only legitimate OLB, although Moats has done time there with so-so results. Kelsay ain't an OLB he's a 4-3 DE and when he has to drop back in coverage it's a disaster. So, my guess an OLB will be added when Kyle goes on IR and be evaluated over the latter part of the season. 2) Best case scenario, the Bills go 4-4 down the stretch and miss the playoffs. 3) George Edwards gets canned at the end of the season and Wanny takes over as the DC. I'm more than OK with canning Edwards... he never should have been hired for the DC position. But, Wanny being promoted means you're looking at going back to the 4-3... tha's all Wanny knows....plus I've never been a fan of Wanny... I don't think he's all he's been made out to be. But, when Edwards gets canned, I don't see the Bills considering anyone but Wanny because I believer the hired him as Asst Head coach and brought him in here specifically because they knew Edwards was way in over his head. 4) With Wanny at the helm as DC, if Kyle comes back next year fully recovered, you'll probably see Darius & Kyle inside, Kelsay at one DE spot and the other either through the draft of free agency... someone with pass rushing skills in the 260 lb. range. You'll probably continue to see Barnett in the middle backed up by Sheppard. The two outside LBs will likely be aquired via free agency and the draft. Basically a continual rebuild The most disappointing thing is, over the past 4-5 years of the Bills consistently ranked in the bottom third on defense (offense too until this season) you'd have thought they would have addressed that by now. But, drafting schmucks like Whitner at #8, then going out on a limb for McCargo, then McKelvin at #11, Troup in the 2nd round, wasting a #13 on Maybin, a #9 on Spliller, and then only one of your draft picks this year is making a significant contribution gives any fan pause that the Bills FO are serious about fielding a competitive team.... just gimmick after gimmick (T.O., Merriman, Spiller to sell a freakin ticket. Personally, I'd like to see both Wanny and Edwards gone and once and for all make the complete swith to the 3-4. Bring in a real 3-4 DC (Man Gina's still out there) and a real NT and a couple of 3-4 OLBs. Take a deep breath idiot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo1983 Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) Source? Hello! HI! Edited November 8, 2011 by buffalo1983 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Doesn't change a thing. He's missed several games and when he was in wasnt a factor anyway. If he came back this year it wouldnt have been to 2010 form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Source? I agree - source? Just listened to Chan's presser and he said Williams was out for next Sunday, was traveling Tues/Weds for a 2nd opinion in NC But nothing definite or specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I would go sign Pat Williams for 7 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo1983 Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) I agree - source? Just listened to Chan's presser and he said Williams was out for next Sunday, was traveling Tues/Weds for a 2nd opinion in NC But nothing definite or specific. From a source i know close with the Bills. We will see how good this source is... Stay tuned Edited November 8, 2011 by buffalo1983 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 He is not on IR. I have not rec'd any texts from the Bills like I have Shawne Merriman or others. Waste of time here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EldaBillsFan Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Jasper time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills1960 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Buffalonews.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EldaBillsFan Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Jasper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-1/DT-Williams-to-see-foot-specialist/926d937f-7668-4ea5-b924-abccaff26786 If he is seeing the specialist later this week, I bet he will be out a couple of months. The IR list has begun!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo1983 Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-1/DT-Williams-to-see-foot-specialist/926d937f-7668-4ea5-b924-abccaff26786 If he is seeing the specialist later this week, I bet he will be out a couple of months. The IR list has begun!! Agree, we cant catch a break! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Someone's got a toothache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poeticlaw Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I agree - source? Just listened to Chan's presser and he said Williams was out for next Sunday, was traveling Tues/Weds for a 2nd opinion in NC But nothing definite or specific. http://blogs.buffalonews.com/billboard/2011/11/williams-expected-to-miss-rest-of-season-lindell-out-4-6-weeks.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I really have never seen another team that is so snake bit with injuries as this team has been for the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtbag Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I really have never seen another team that is so snake bit with injuries as this team has been for the past few years. last year's green bay team had it pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I don't think it's achilles unless someone has confirmed it.... Why didn't he see a specialist like three months ago? Come on people.... this was our best player last year, struggling with a foot injury all year and he hasn't seen the best guy in the world yet? Lets get on the ball. If its IR then that opens a roster spot, (go get the best special teamer available and sit Brad Smith for the kickoff coverage teams please) if it's surgery then do it tomorrow and get him ready for summer training camp, if it's a 'wait and see how he responds to treatment and maybe he can take a numbing shot or something' if we need him playoff time then that's okay too, but we seem to be slow and secretive about everything. What is this the Donahoe days all over again? Get Kyle on your team website and have him explain exactly what's happening, how it feels and the options. two minute clip, end the confusion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggieScooby Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Depth at dl is good tho he is a great player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I already figured williams would not be back...I am more concerned about his career being in jeopardy than him playing again this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Kyle Williams went to see Dr Robert Anderson in North Carolina. He is a foot guy. If it were an Achilles he would be seeing Dr Andrews in Florida. Your source is full of poop. You can tell them I said so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stussy109 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 probably the same thing Antonio Gates had, plantar fascitis...Your feet can feel fine, go play a series, sit down, stand up off the bench with excuicating pain. Happens to Overweight people and those who put too much stress on their feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I saw it on a trailer on ESPN. Said he was out for the season. I think Carrington has looked pretty well when he has been in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Kyle Williams could miss rest of season: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/07/kyle-williams-could-miss-rest-of-season/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 http://blogs.buffalonews.com/billboard/2011/11/williams-expected-to-miss-rest-of-season-lindell-out-4-6-weeks.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+typepad%2Fbuffalonews%2Fbi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 From a source i know close with the Bills. We will see how good this source is... Stay tuned Not one of Skooby's sources I hope? ;-) Wouldn't a problem with an Achilles be different from a foot problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Not one of Skooby's sources I hope? ;-) Wouldn't a problem with an Achilles be different from a foot problem? The Achilles Tendon attaches in the back of the heel (so a bone spur in the back heel which is pretty common) could effect the Achilles Tendon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I am afraid of williams career being in jeopardy, forget this year... Foot injuries have derailed quite a few players including merriman and forsberg in the nhl... Moreso than him not being able to play again I worry it will be a recurring injury and/or limit his effectiveness when he returns... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 It ain't a matter of "if", it's "when" the Bills place Kyle on IR, what is their short term plan and longer term plan? Do they bring in a player thatcan play and contrigute right now, or do they just fill a roster spot? What I think we know... 1) Kyle cannot be an everydown NT in the NFL, assuming he can return to form next season. Bills are paying big money for him, so he has to play somewhere, DE? 2) Torrell Troup sucks. When you are drafted in the second round and you ain't contributing significantly, it's time to cut your losses. 3) George Edwards is clueless. He doesn't know WTF defesnse to play... 3-4, 4-3, or 5-2 (what they played against the Skins a week ago). Two years into a supposed transition to the 3-4 and they still don't have a legitimate NT or outside LB. "Lights Out" is done and he ain't comin back. What I think will happen... 1) short term, Bills seem to be thin at OLB. Batten is the only legitimate OLB, although Moats has done time there with so-so results. Kelsay ain't an OLB he's a 4-3 DE and when he has to drop back in coverage it's a disaster. So, my guess an OLB will be added when Kyle goes on IR and be evaluated over the latter part of the season. 2) Best case scenario, the Bills go 4-4 down the stretch and miss the playoffs. 3) George Edwards gets canned at the end of the season and Wanny takes over as the DC. I'm more than OK with canning Edwards... he never should have been hired for the DC position. But, Wanny being promoted means you're looking at going back to the 4-3... tha's all Wanny knows....plus I've never been a fan of Wanny... I don't think he's all he's been made out to be. But, when Edwards gets canned, I don't see the Bills considering anyone but Wanny because I believer the hired him as Asst Head coach and brought him in here specifically because they knew Edwards was way in over his head. 4) With Wanny at the helm as DC, if Kyle comes back next year fully recovered, you'll probably see Darius & Kyle inside, Kelsay at one DE spot and the other either through the draft of free agency... someone with pass rushing skills in the 260 lb. range. You'll probably continue to see Barnett in the middle backed up by Sheppard. The two outside LBs will likely be aquired via free agency and the draft. Basically a continual rebuild The most disappointing thing is, over the past 4-5 years of the Bills consistently ranked in the bottom third on defense (offense too until this season) you'd have thought they would have addressed that by now. But, drafting schmucks like Whitner at #8, then going out on a limb for McCargo, then McKelvin at #11, Troup in the 2nd round, wasting a #13 on Maybin, a #9 on Spliller, and then only one of your draft picks this year is making a significant contribution gives any fan pause that the Bills FO are serious about fielding a competitive team.... just gimmick after gimmick (T.O., Merriman, Spiller to sell a freakin ticket. Personally, I'd like to see both Wanny and Edwards gone and once and for all make the complete swith to the 3-4. Bring in a real 3-4 DC (Man Gina's still out there) and a real NT and a couple of 3-4 OLBs. How is missing the playoffs a best case scenario? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Sign that chick from Mike and Molly, she looks like she could tie up some blockers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I would go sign Pat Williams for 7 games That is exactly what they should do. Would love this move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 billsdaily Bills Daily Kyle Williams placed on IR ending his season. Wang released from IR. Rayner takes Williams roster spot. https://twitter.com/#!/billsdaily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Pretty much expected at this point. Hopefully Kyle gets the issue fixed and comes back stronger than ever in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Godd3#!@n it. They've now lost Kyle and Merriman for the season, and Bell for all intents and purposes is not going to contribute this year. Those are huge losses for this team. Every freaking year it's like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Jacobs Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Could be a blessing in disguise. We're now good enough that the front office should show attention to free agency, and now may be bad enough to help our draft status, wich we really need another good one. I'm not giving up on this year, but its been good enough to be positive with whatever happens next...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) Crap. Well, it's an opportunity for the young guys to step up. Dareus, Troup and Heard are more of the wide body traditional NT for a 3-4 anyway so lets see who steps up. KW wasn't having his usual impact anyway and now we know why. Let him heal completely for next season and let the kids take the sandbox for the rest of the season. KW is only 28 and should have plenty of gas in the tank once he's healed up. Edited November 8, 2011 by Green Lightning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Godd3#!@n it. They've now lost Kyle and Merriman for the season, and Bell for all intents and purposes is not going to contribute this year. Those are huge losses for this team. Every freaking year it's like this. Not as bad as you state it. If Hairston comes back and plays out the season, I dont think we will miss Bell much. Merriman wasn't contributing much anyway so no great loss Kyle will always be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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