MRW Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Proof of what? That Ralph owns the team and wants a say. SHOCK HORROR. Also - he's unable to walk now because of his age. But nothing really rhymes with golf cart. He'll fart the fart, but he won't cart the cart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 I hope this story shows those who rant and rail against our front office that nothing happens without Ralph's blessing. Sadly nothing will change until Ralph passes on...and then the team will be sold and moved. Game over. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpunchy Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Unreal. If this is true Ralph has truly lost it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 I hope this story shows those who rant and rail against our front office that nothing happens without Ralph's blessing. Sadly nothing will change until Ralph passes on...and then the team will be sold and moved. Game over. PTR I know what you're saying...and that breaks my heart...We had a good run in the 90s...at least we were lucky enough to have that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeBillsDrive Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 We are condemned to mediocrity with Ralph as owner. And then yes, the team will be sold at auction to highest bidder and then moved. The decline from the 4 Superbowl years has been painful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Tigre Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 I hope this story shows those who rant and rail against our front office that nothing happens without Ralph's blessing. Sadly nothing will change until Ralph passes on...and then the team will be sold and moved. Game over. PTR C'mon Promo. Why so gloomy bro? At least give Gailey a shot. Maybe he'll surprise us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Who is? Keyser Söze? Great idea, even the hoodie would be scared..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Does this mean no more comments here, then? No, that just means I've severed the emotional cord until we have someone that puts a priority on winning. And that would take Ralph being out of the picture to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Still don't give a stuff about Schotty the crybaby. If one is content with the current culture which has produced the only team besides the Detroit Lions to not see the playoffs the past 10 years, then he should be happy with an owner making minimal changes to that culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Evidently, Schottenheimer wanted the job, but Wilson pulled the chicken switch. http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/...anted-bills-gig RW has lost his mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 I However was smart and did a tactical chunder the night before. Experience is an outstanding instructor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick in* england Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Experience is an outstanding instructor Turned 30. Made all the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 i have wanted Marty since day one.......but he should have at least hinted that he wanted the job......it would have given fans a chance to support the choice ....instead of everyone just dismissing it by saying he doesn't want the job. oh well, that ship has sailed. i am happy with Chan Gailey....he is very similar to marty in that he has helped improve every team he has been on. Chan is an outstanding choice. coaching is over rated.......the most important guy is the one who picks the players(Nix). you take Perry Fewell and the old coaches and give them the 10 pro-bowlers from minnesota....and bang, we make the playoffs. coaches don't execute plays, players do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdBlueNorth Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 THUD!!! Seriously? WTF have we ever done to you Ralph to deserve your destructive meddling? tor⋅ture /ˈtɔrtʃər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [tawr-cher] Show IPA noun, verb, -tured, -tur⋅ing. Use torture in a Sentence See images of torture noun 1. the act of inflicting excruciating pain, as punishment or revenge, as a means of getting a confession or information, or for sheer cruelty. 2. a method of inflicting such pain. 3. Often, tortures. the pain or suffering caused or undergone. 4. extreme anguish of body or mind; agony. 5. a cause of severe pain or anguish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Nix is a good football man. and he has direct experience with little marty. and he said no thanks bud. what does that tell you?!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 As I've said, I was apathetic about the Gailey hire. But I don't get the Schottenheimer love. The guy is eligible for Medicare (he's 66, to along with a 91 year old owner and a 70 year old GM), couldn't win a playoff game in his career when he WAS coaching, and has been out of football for the past 3 years, unable to latch-on with any team, not even the Raiders the past 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 As I've said, I was apathetic about the Gailey hire. But I don't get the Schottenheimer love. The guy is eligible for Medicare (he's 66, to along with a 91 year old owner and a 70 year old GM), couldn't win a playoff game in his career when he WAS coaching, and has been out of football for the past 3 years, unable to latch-on with any team, not even the Raiders the past 3 years. There is no way in hell that Marty would coach the Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 see that's the problem...everyone has taken this speculation as the truth and Ralph is being crucified because some 'reporter' with no accountability to report accurate or even true information put something in a blog......<GASP> a Blog... Absolute bull ****. No need to reply. Welcome to ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 There is no way in hell that Marty would coach the Raiders. Maybe, maybe not depending on how badely (sic) he wanted to get back into coaching again. But what of the 18-odd other teams that made head coaching changes over the past 3 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 As I've said, I was apathetic about the Gailey hire. But I don't get the Schottenheimer love. The guy is eligible for Medicare (he's 66, to along with a 91 year old owner and a 70 year old GM), couldn't win a playoff game in his career when he WAS coaching, and has been out of football for the past 3 years, unable to latch-on with any team, not even the Raiders the past 3 years. the 1st step to better health is a good diet and exercise. That's Marty... It doesn't mean you'll be a model when you're done, but you are better than when you started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy waters Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 I just finished watching the press conference and was feeling much better about Chan Gaily as head coach. Then I read this. Wow. Now I don't know what to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerstm Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 That can't shock anyone. Come on NOW. If they hired Marty that would go against everything Ralph has done for the past 10 yrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 the 1st step to better health is a good diet and exercise. That's Marty... It doesn't mean you'll be a model when you're done, but you are better than when you started. Okay, that pertains to the Bills. As I asked above, what about the 18-odd teams that passed-him-over the past 3 years, and in the case of some teams, multiple times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 not really lori, my point, while probably a bit harsh, but...he doesn't name a source, it could be a neighbor who heard something...if it is wrong, he will either print a retraction that will probably go unnoticed by the general population or will simply move on with no correction or retraction.....heck, I named Steve Tasker as someone I heard on the tony bruno show on January 14th during hour number 1 refute that Ralph is horrible to work for and that the bills are a joke as an organization...granted the source wasn't mine, but its more proof than tim graham provided.....if he has some proof that marty wanted the job badly and the offer was ignored or pulled then lets hear it....oh yeah, but that would compromise his source and ruin any chance of getting good scoops in the future.......when i read or hear proof that supports what tim graham posted on a blog, then I will give him the credit he is due.....i am pretty sure that proof will never appear...... Absolute bull ****. No need to reply. Welcome to ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmwolf21 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Absolute bull ****. No need to reply. Welcome to ignore. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 C'mon Promo. Why so gloomy bro? At least give Gailey a shot. Maybe he'll surprise us. I don't think Gailey is a horrible hire but this news about Marty is disturbing. It shows that Ralph has no intention of changing how he runs the team. He promised the fans a champion but doesn't see how his own stupidity hurts the team. So scream and yell all you want at the hired help: Brandon, Nix, Gailey, etc. Nothing happens at OBD without Papa Ralph. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 prove me wrong....rather, prove tim graham correct.....i see no reports other than unnamed sources stating that Marty wanted the job 'badly' and was not part of the final plan? the rest of the speculation about ralph being a horrible owner is just from the posters here.... Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 yikes. Ralph sure knows who he likes and who he doesn't like.I am not sure Ralph knows the time of day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 prove me wrong....rather, prove tim graham correct.....i see no reports other than unnamed sources stating that Marty wanted the job 'badly' and was not part of the final plan? the rest of the speculation about ralph being a horrible owner is just from the posters here.... why not just stop digging and apologize for being an offensive ass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfansince72 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 The up side to hiring Marty, even though he's getting old, is that eventually his son could've taken over. I must admit that if I were the owner of a team, or of a business for that matter, I wouldn't hire someone I feel uncomfortable with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Promo....what news???? the 'fact' that Marty wanted it badly but ralph wasn't comfortable?????? its not news...its a blog that uses an unnamed source.......don't get sucked in....lets wait for the news to be here are blogs from last week stating that he re-iterates he is retired..... maybe ralph was uncomfortable hiring a head coach that insists he is retired and intends on staying that way I don't think Gailey is a horrible hire but this news about Marty is disturbing. It shows that Ralph has no intention of changing how he runs the team. He promised the fans a champion but doesn't see how his own stupidity hurts the team. So scream and yell all you want at the hired help: Brandon, Nix, Gailey, etc. Nothing happens at OBD without Papa Ralph. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmwolf21 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 why not just stop digging and apologize for being an offensive ass? This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 who was i offensive to? if i was i certainly will apologize. why not just stop digging and apologize for being an offensive ass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 prove me wrong....rather, prove tim graham correct.....i see no reports other than unnamed sources stating that Marty wanted the job 'badly' and was not part of the final plan? the rest of the speculation about ralph being a horrible owner is just from the posters here....i must...protect...my...delusions ..at ..any...cost...Seriously, what is the cost to you if you're wrong? you might have to change your sign in name. The cost to Tim Graham for putting this out without good evidence might be his job and certainly risks his reputation and access to the Bills. I know who I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Maybe, maybe not depending on how badely (sic) he wanted to get back into coaching again. But what of the 18-odd other teams that made head coaching changes over the past 3 years? There is no chance. None. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 yeah i get that, completely....i also posted several blog entries from a simple google search refuting that Marty Schottenheimer wanted the job 'badly' and Marty Schottenheimer and his son, and perhaps Buddy Nix were all named in the blogs.....why isn't that as credible as what Tim Graham posted????? i must...protect...my...delusions ..at ..any...cost...Seriously, what is the cost to you if you're wrong? you might have to change your sign in name. The cost to Tim Graham for putting this out without good evidence might be his job and certainly risks his reputation and access to the Bills. I know who I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 As I've said, I was apathetic about the Gailey hire. But I don't get the Schottenheimer love. The guy is eligible for Medicare (he's 66, to along with a 91 year old owner and a 70 year old GM), couldn't win a playoff game in his career when he WAS coaching, and has been out of football for the past 3 years, unable to latch-on with any team, not even the Raiders the past 3 years. Marty with the Raiders??? I guess you're not aware of his hatred for that organization. Marty wasn't interested in any job until now. At least if you believe the multiple reports that he was comfortable with retirement. Therefore, I must admit, I wouldn't bet my house on Tim Graham being right about his interest in the Bills in this instance, but Marty WAS a former Bill who won a championship here. It's possible. And if Graham is right, it was a major mistake to not hire him. People are in love with Marty because he has rebuilt previously struggling franchises many times. He'd be perfect for Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 14-2 while increasing confused. Sign me up. That's hysterical. I'm not sure why someone would want to sell the Gailey hiring as if Marty is some old fart. Chan is 58, Marty is 66. Both old by NFL standards, but hardly senile. Ralph on the other hand, he is not the least bit confused. Nobody who has heard him speak in the past 10 years would even suggest that he seemed AT ALL confused at...uuhhh...uhhh....any time. "I didn't know them" -Ralph Wilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Wow. Don't even know what to say. Ralphie, if this really happend I want you to sell the team ASAP and take your HOF ring and shove it. I really could care less any longer what you did for the AFL, NFL and this team. You've run this franchise into the ground the last 10+ years and this fan base deserves much better than that. I don't know if JK really has an ownership team together or not, but dam it, sell it to him. I want you to take your wrinkled old body and go retire (not what I wanted to say, but did not want to get banned). Enough is enough, this town deserves much more than you have given. You make us feel as if we are lucky to have a team, lucky to have had you as an owner. Nope. Not really. This town can sustain an NFL franchise just fine, screw this garbage the we are a small town. It's not a small town when you add all local towns in the overall population count, as many other large cities do. So stop making us feel that we have no say. Stop making us feel that we are lucky to have you. Stop your cheap ways and sell this team already. You do realize if you do it now, it could possibly guarantee that the team just may stay here, instead of dragging it out and we lose the Bills. We could have had a proven GM and a proven coach with his son primed to take over in a few years, keeping us from having to do this every 4 years. Thanks for nothing Ralphie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey greco Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 i must...protect...my...delusions ..at ..any...cost...Seriously, what is the cost to you if you're wrong? you might have to change your sign in name. The cost to Tim Graham for putting this out without good evidence might be his job and certainly risks his reputation and access to the Bills. I know who I believe. +1 There is no way a professional reporter hangs his ass out in the wind on a story like this that could be so easily disputed without a credible enough source to at least satisfy his employers. Look up Jayson Blair if you want to see what happens to reporters who make up stories. And quit disparaging the story because it appeared on a blog. It's nothing more than an extension of his regular column. There's an enormous difference between Tim Graham posting something on his blog and billsguy99 posting something on his. It's shocking that you need any of this pointed out to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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