Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

I'm fine with it, LB's rotate in and out anyway. Last few games Lorax has cooled off quite a bit anyway, Lawson's a 1st rounder,

Yes but the difference here is, most people feel it's a pipe dream as Cousins will never see FA. He either will sign a long term deal or be tagged again.

Not saying they should keep Rex, but do recall last year a thead that was started praising Jax front office for the smart hire of Gus Bradley while Buffalo selected Rex Ryan. And there were multiple other threads lamenting how we got the short end of the stick so to speak in selecting Ryan while the Jet's were smiling in that they got Todd Bowles. So for all those people the good news is they can easily correct that as appears Bradley will very likely be available and Bowles certainly moved up the available list by a huge amount after last nights game. My point being good thing no one here is in charge or we'd be just as bad in spite of what many here think of themselves. While I agree Taylor doesn't appear to be the answer at QB, do find it interesting that the team with the MVP at QB in Carolina, and Green Bay which almost everyone would take Rodgers at QB are both no better than the Bills.

So if Fitz can get us to the playoffs, why are Jet's 3-9? Prior to the start of the season most people picked the Jet's ahead of the Bills which tells me top down, the Jet's had a bette rmore talented team than Buffalo. Which to me means Fitz was the problem, not the answer.

Yeah but that's asking alot. In a thread last week, one of our resident TT haters posted that any rookie can pass for 166 yards, and he's probably right. But I doubt a rookie would have the same TD to int % that TT has of over three and add 1/2 TD per game running the ball, and getting many first downs with his legs as he does. Do you really want those things in a QB, ideally you want the arm, but light it or not those attributes do make up for some of the down side of TT in that he has little accuracy. But unless you find someone better, I'd stick with him, and while I would prefer getting someone better, that's much easier said than done. As to Fitz, I think he's a smarter QB as far as knowing what to do, but has a weak arm and also not very accurate. His biggest asset is his brain which Chan Gailey can take advantage of but not so sure another OC would be able to. I'll throw one more name out, while I hate the guy, Kap has the same running abilities that TT has and WAS a better passer, not great by any means but better than TT, at least three years ago.

And wherever you may work, they pay you 52 or 26 paychecks. And if you miss some time due to family obligations birth of child etc. it's no different in spite of what you may think. As was already pointed politically the Bills will say the correct things, "yes they are fine with it" are that happy about it, no, but they also do understand and highly doubt they'd take any kind of drastic action against him because of it. And I'm sure even if it were BB or the Patriots, they'd say the same too, or in the case of BB, he may say he didn't even know she was pregnant. The problem is those who take the time to post on message boards like this are fans of the highest level and are 100% viewing this through fans eyes. And as fans, he plays no question asked. But in reality Clay just like all of us are just employees working for someone and is entitled to time off. Yes the 16 week season certainly makes each week much more important than what most people go through, but it's no different, other than to fans. I'm sure as we speak there are a number of Amazon employees, either factory workers, or managers and some level who has a spouse who are about to give birth and they will take time out for that event even though it's in the middle of their busy Christmas rush. Or the manager of some fireworks factory may be out in June due to having a child, or two weeks before Valentines day the manager of a candy factory is out. That's the way life works. (Except for fans, they will never get it)

If he didn't take the team flight, the only hope would be his wife had the baby overnight and he flew out this AM. But even then, means he missed Saturdays walk thru, showing up two hours before game time or so, not sure it would even be worth it.

I'm sure their plan is each year to increase the number. But also gives them the ability to slow it down if they don't get the response they think they'll get

Yes but overall, many more misses than hits. That's why there aren't 32 top level franchise QB's in the league. The misses far out weigh the hits

You can get a RT in the 32nd or 3rd, or sign a FA, that's likely the easiest to fill. I'd go 1st round CB, 2nd WR, 3rd, RT Great, what's your solution? How would you improve things for next season? Now I saw your solution posted. So not trying to get better, you just want to replace him with someone else, as you said can also get 166 yards. Maybe one of them will do better, but figuring out which one is a crap shoot. And have a better chance of getting worse. The only thing I see your solution does is it saves money, but likely will be worse off at a minimum for the short term. This is one of the best ideas I've ever seen!!

I think it will lead to less errors, will it fix everything no, but at least studying film rule books for 7 months may mean the officials will actually no the rules. I've heard the argument for the past 40 + years they want these people who make $400k salaries so they are being bribed. First off in today's world there's so much money out there being gambled, that even making that much money you could easily off someone enough for him to easily fix the game if desired. The problem too with people making that kind of money is they likely are going to work at 7:00 in the morning and not returning to 7:00 at night, and that's when not traveling. Ward Cleaver was able to read the newspaper every day over coffee with June, leave for work and be home in plenty of time for dinner, but those days are long over. With players getting bigger and bigger, I'd like to see an extra official up in one of those man lifts 20 feet above the field traveling up and down the sideline like the camera man does to get a better view of the action. Fro mup there, may be able to se things that they can't see today.

One of the funny parts of that article was how Friday and Saturday night, Lynn got a total of four hours sleep. While Rex was roaming the sidelines down in Clemson! One of the takes I got in the article was Lynn commented more than once how he sought input from the other coaches and the players. Not sure if that was specifically stated as one of the rumored knocks on Roman was he hardly took input from anyone.

In the past all the byes were completed by whatever week number it was the week prior to Thanksgiving. With three Thursday games on Thanksgiving, no way can they also have byes

If that's true, then how are they averaging is like 30 points a game? Those three plays must be assume! Granted some scores were by the defense or ST, but the bulk were by the offense. Not saying TT is a franchise leading QB, but overall the numbers say he's a lot better than people around here give him credit for. But to the TT bashers nothing else but passing yards and passing TD's matter.

Yeah I noticed that too, it is strange and unusual. Seems mid season week 7 thru 10 or so, not that many teams had byes those weeks as prior years. Why they did this, not sure but it is different??

Scoring points hasn't been an issue. Don't they lead the league in points scored on in the top 3 or so? Yes amazing you pick out the one game where the offense only scored 7 points. Take that game out and what did they score? Typically enough points that most teams win. So on a pure passing scale he's below average, OK fine, but there is more to football than just passing. Is TT a great franchise QB, no but he's not close to being the reason we're 6-5. I'd put the blame on the defense if anything. Given the amount of points we've scored, we should have at least two more wins I'd estimate.

I recall at the time he said he didn't want to appeal as it would just drag things on. He'd rather serve the 4 games and move on he stated at the time I'd agree this would be a good lawsuit. He's lucky he plays for Buffalo within the state of NY as was pointed out NY recognizes pot as a viable thing to use for this illness so that's in his favor. Yes he signed an NFL contract that stated he can't smoke, but laws do trump the NFL So don't think this is a simple he has no leg to stand on because the NFL said no.

Hope you're right as this is one thing that actually can be learned. There's many a good NFL QB that took a long time to become good. Vinny T bounced around in mediocrity for a long time. Kurt Warner was another.

Just remember who their defensive coordinator is! Probably Greggo suggested this as we all recall his battles here with anything critical!

So as has been pointed out the data for this list was completely wrong as there are really only 12 QB's with a TD/Int of greater than 3.0 and TT is #17. Looking at that list, if you were to ask 100 people to name the top three QB's over the past say five years, likely the names of Beg Ben, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers would be on everyone's list. So if anything when looking at those names, that tells me not turning over the ball absolutely IS an indicator of a top QB. Not saying TT is anywhere near those names, but when you add in that the Bills are one of the top scoring teams over the past two seasons, that does start to say, maybe TT isn't nearly as bad as some are making him out to be. If anything the Bills are losing games due to poor defensive play as they are scoring enough points for most teams to win with. I'm, no TT lover, if the Bills could find a better QB I'm all for it, but doubt that is going to happen as there just aren't enough to go around. But do find it kind of funny in that the purpose of this thread was to point out how bad TT is, but if anything this data shows he really is something special and likely needs to be kept here as not going to find anyone better. So thank you for starting this thread in support of TT!!

Has anyone figured out where TT would fall on the list if you included rushing TD's by QB also? Does TT's passing game leave a lot to be desired? Yes but you can't just ignore his ability to keep drives alive with his legs. I don't have the time or desire to look this up myself, but do know that my eyes don't lie as he does bring more to the table than the many crusaders here wish to acknowledge. Oh thank you, someone just did figure that out for me I'm waiting till February when this place will really explode if the Bill's keep TT. I'm guessing they will as not likely to find a better option out there. Unless they decide to run down to Walmart and pick up a franchise QB on the overstocked table.

I thought Robinson first pushed off, then Gimore went back on him, but figured the refs let it go as Robinson "threw the first punch" so to speak.

Thought it was kind of funny, think it was in the 3rd quarter, there was a commercial on TV for some med to take for Crohn's disease. (at least on the ST broadcast it was aired)

I think the NFL is just a tad bit different than your office. If your job entailed having 11 guys trying to beat the hell out of you every week to the point they can cripple you, you may think different. Basically their job is to do whatever they can do (within the rules) to recover from the pain they go through, but that often isn't enough. I assume coaches aren't drug tested? If they were, I wonder how many who are ex-players would fail the tests? Could see coaches, say a guy like Ed Reed who likely has endured years of playing through pain, smoking some now after career is over to get rid of some of the never ending aches and pains. And maybe he has a prescription for it. I'd be fine with letting players smoke from say Sunday night until Wednesday to relieve pain, but don't want them playing under the influence so would 100% test everyone on Saturday morning to make sure they are clean for the game, but have no idea if tests can be done to so time sensitive?

Interesting, there were many questioning how they ever got it into the stadium through security. Now I read it was a guy and girlfriend. That started to give me some ideas on how it may have been hidden.... On the other hand if the Bills need to hire someone to start checking for these things I would work cheap.