Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

Do agree that we have one of the weakest WR group out there. Even with Watkins still need to improve would hope our #1 pick next season is a WR. Having said that I'd go for a 2nd but not so sure the Bears would.

Yeah to me Thurman is just a figurehead DC. I give alot credit of the improved play to Rob, think he has everyone understanding where they need to be and what to do.

No, but what possible evidence do you have to make you or anyone think you the Bills could have a better QB say within the next two years? If it takes much longer than that too much other change occurs on the roster to do any good. There are many more teams with worse QB's than Buffalo has. If it was so easy to say they need to get a better QB, every team in the league would be doing that. If the Bills were to lose out, history says it's unlikely they get the #1 or #2 overall pick, likely with say a .500 record would again get them around pick #15 to 20. Not likely from there to trade up to #1 or you'd give up so much the team would be weak everywhere else. Maybe you could trade for Tony Romo or Jay Cutler if you want. Case Keenan may be available, Fitz, Jonny Football. The only one of them I'd agree is a step up from TT is Romo, IF he stays healthy. the rest are a crapshoot. I do think the Bills may have the worst group of WR oin the league right now and even if Sammy comes back and plays next season completely healthy, they still are weak overall.

He was pretty good to extremely good at finding talent, though in the last few years, he seemed to have lost it a bit. His downfall was more personality wise, he was known to be a tyrant and had issues with working with others which is part of being the GM. Seemed he did a good job of training others to act likewise like AJ Smith and little sonny boy Chris I believe is his name. Everything I've read about him is he's a total disaster and seems like it's hard to hire Bill without getting AJ and Chris as a package deal. For that reason alone I'd say stay away. So was he a genius for doing it in three cities or was that a result of his quirks that never allowed him to stay anyplace very long. He was good at what he did, but to many issues to call hi ma genius and think the game has passed him by.

If I remember correctly, he was rookie of the month in Sept 2014 season and everyone was raving about him. You're correct he was brutal last year, can't understand why he couldn't play better while battling Crones Disease.

And yet in the offseason everyone was ripping Whaley for not upgrading the right side, and how bad Miller is. He was a rookie last year, I believe more than any position offensive line is where the rookie wall hits the worst as typically lineman play all game as long as they are healthy, there's little rotation, so likely by November or so he was gassed. Just as two seasons back Henderson started out as rookie of the month in Sept, as the season went on, he tired out, then last season was a complete write off as he was in pain already back in August it sounded like. But here no one has patience and expects instant pro-bowl level. If not replace him. Well he certainly won't be alone in that regards, half the teams in the league are seeking an answer, and many of the other, NE included got more lucky than anything. Picki ng Brady I nthe 6th round wasn't the result of a smart front office, more just dumb luck that he was still available, and he became what he is.

Leave him where he is, but certainly design plays to utilize like a WR on some occasions. Realistically it doesn't matter what you call him, just throw him the ball more and hope he catches it.

So what's the connection with Nebraska and Kansas getting the SD/Oakland game? Who am I missing that went to school there that's star player? Those states are close to Dallas, to not get that game is strange unless there is someone I'm missing??

thought it used to be December, now they start earlier??

So are drug suspensions different than Brady's suspension as he wasn't allowed even near the building?

LA is 3-1, game is in LA, so wouldn't call it an upset if the Bills were to lose this game. Winnable yes, but just as easily losable too.

Was surprised not to see even one word in this thread about Henderson. I also think the 4 weeks may have helped him get his strength back. But again Mill's has filled in very well, so will be interesting to see when/if Henderson plays.

Regardless of what he publicly starts about Thurman running the defense, I don't buy that much at all. I think the difference is, love him or hate him and most people hate, he brought Rob in who is the only other person who truly is on the same page completely as Rex. Rob has the players in the correct positions particularly the play of the LB's. He's probably doing much more than I'd give him credit for, but to me Thurman is a figurehead.

This is what makes me think it was more a Buddy Nix thing as back then, believe it was after the prior season ended or so when Nix stated that the Bills were going to draft a QB. My take is he pushed hard that the Bills needed to draft a QB in the first round and likely felt the best guy available was EJ. I think it's very possible that Whaley was even the one who scouted EJ and proclaimed him to be the best prospect. While Whaley may have thought he was the best out there, did he really want him drafted in the 1st round, I think that was more a push by Nix to make it happen. Don't think DW was completely against it, but don't think it was completely his move either.

So you're automatically assuming there is no possibility the the Bills recommended surgery back in January or a different surgical option than Watkins went with, and it's completly sim-diagnosed by Buffalo. Teams can highly recommend following a certain path, but ultimately it's up to the player to decide what he chooses to do and often the player chooses the path of least surgery. The one thing for certain is neither you nor I have any idea which really happened or something in between.

I believe you can bring Shaq back from PUP AND one player off IR. However, my guess is they aren't ready to use that IR move on him, as they'd rather wait out Watkins. I'd even think IF they do use the move on Listenbee, that likely means they don't think Sammy will be back at all this season.

Yeah but if you don't get a completion, instead of a 34 yard FG, it's now a 49 yard kick

Wasn't it reported last Friday that Brissett was going to need surgery and was done for the year?? My thinking is either: BB placed his hand on Brissett's forehead and cured him OR He is truly hurt but BB wants to keep Buffalo guessing who'll play so has been reporting him as ready to go, probably forbid him to war any kind of a cast. Wouldn't surprise me to hear this coming Monday he's on IR.

I'd disagree with you there. Yes I get it that sacks are separate, but why I'd argue it's kind of a biased stat in that a QB can never have negative rushing yards. (excluding true planned runs) If he drops back to pass and gets tackled behind the LOS, then it's a sack, but as soon as he crossed the line, then it's all positive rushing yards. I'd be fine if they counted QB rushing yards as net offset to sack yards lost and maybe instead call it scrambling yards or something. A guy like TT runs around alot, say he gets sacked 3 times for a loss of 23 yards, but then scrambles for a total of 40 yards. His net scrambling yards is +17. Instead we just add 40 yards to the team rushing totals, but don't take anything off for the sacks. Just think it's a rather hokey way the NFL tracks it.

He's got alot of extra time on his hands these days. What else is he supposed to do? Maybe he's figuring if I can no longer be a professional football player, I can become a professional drug dealer. With my fame, maybe throw in a couple of autographs, people will be lining up to buy from me.

Really, wow, shocked to hear that!!

Speaking of announcers I was watching the end of the Indy Charger game and the announcers kept saying how Indy was up by 4 at the end, and if SD hadn't missed an extra point earlier, would have been within a field goal. Well they never figured out that on the last Indy TD, instead of failing on a 2 point attempt, they would have just kicked it and stil lbeen uip by 4. But these guys never were brain surgeons.

Really am tired of all the national and even local media stating how the Bills fired their OC after leading the league in rushing last season. I'd really love to know where we'd be in rushing yards without TT gaining all those yards, I'm guessing barely top 10. That's one of my pet peeves, if a QB gets sacked or even takes off to run but gets tackled even one yard behind the LOS, it's recorded in the sack total, but gain even one yard and then it adds to the rushing total. If a RB gets tackled behind the LOS it counts as yardage lost, but not for QB's

Before the season started, reading Fantasy thoughts on Bortles, was kind of amazing how many sleeper list he was on, but at the same time was also on a high number of bust lists too. Never saw someone on both lists that much.

Fitz also has better WR than he did here in Buffalo and still had 6 picks. As he himself commented last week, he didn't have pro Bowl wide outs here.