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McCoy scared the hell out of me holding that football up in the air at about 3 yard line!

Of course, everything is Rex's fault!

The problem with that argument is you have no idea what the other 31 teams in the league are doing. They may all be having similar interactions. If they are just going to Rex or Whaley and saying the players are saying this..... what is your take, I wouldn't call that meddling.

The only way to answer this question is to know if the other 31 teams do similar things. If the Bills are unique in this, then yes, if the answer is no other teams do the same, then they are not over meddling

I also had drafted McKinnon so I'm not to upset with the news. I also had Ware from KC who filled in rather nice for Charles. And Forte who got me 30 points last week, but at the expense of Buffalo.

Five years or so ago, likely Doug Whaley would have been on this list at least at the bridesmaid level if not the "in-waiting" My point, you have just as good a chance of having the same issues in another five years unless you get the right guy, and no one really knows when they have the right guy till a few years after he's hired.

Well when you read multiple articles by different writers affiliated with different companies all with very different stories about this entire thing, makes you start to wonder, then no don't think it's the Bills PR machine. Or do you believe the Bills are so powerful that they completely control all the media and get them to write whatever spin they want. Or is it that certain articles are true that support your beliefs and agenda and everything else is just Bills PR? Great but where to you find a better one? It would be terrific if the Bills could get the next Andrew Luck, but the odds a much better they will land the next Ryan Leaf as there are many more bad QB's around than good ones. And for whatever reason no team in the league is able to very accurately transfer what is seen in college to how that plays out in the NFL. If they could Ryan Leaf, Akli Smith, etc would not have been drafter #1, and Tom Brady wouldn't have lastest till the 6th round. So base on that you take more chances on QB's that even remotely look for an instant in time to be good, as you know the other options are likely all much worse.

A guy a work wit his a big 49er's fan. At the time when roman left he said that it was pretty much split, was Roman the problem or was Harbough over-riding him and that was what caused Kap to decline. Seeing where things are now, and the comments about him "wanting to work in the lab alone" makes me start to think he's the problem. The more I've read about this, the more I think this has been brewing for awhile. He was told in the off-season he needed to changed his ways and promised he would. But two games in, nothing changed so they made a move. And also the more I've read about this, the less I overall blame this whole thing on Rex as seemed there were many other outside influences at work here.

I'd say he's lost a fair amount of money the past two weeks. Everyone has been talking recently how now that TT is signed we can tag Gilmore. The way he's been playing think most would be disappointment if we tag him. Unless we pull a Carolina, tag him try and get a decent deal, if not, then pull it.

Maybe if he had come out last season?? He's one guuy who looks like a mistake coming back for another season.

Yes but the things below rarely will work without consistency so you don't have to spend time each week learning new basics, you can concentrate on wrinkles instead.

And how exactly do you know this? I'm not saying it's not true, personally I do believe there is at least some truth to this. but all it is rumored and passed on and a second person then also writes the same thing, likely based on the first rumor and all of a sudden it becomes fact as it's been reported by multiple outlets.

For the most part I'm a Whaley supporter and feel there's a much better chance of replacing him with someone worse rather than better as if it were easy to find front office types, every team in the league would have a solid GM, but they don't. To find a replacement you can go two ways; Hire some recycled available guy, but need to take a long hard look at why is he available, likely a couple years after you hire him you'll find out why. Hire this up and coming guy who everyone is raving about, preferably from a stable organization, but in reality you really have no idea how much success can really be attributed to this rising star, or is it really the guy above him who makes this guy look good. That is pretty much what the Bills have today in Whaley (and Donahoe) who was hired from the Steelers. Having said that I do agree that this team just doesn't have the talent to compete. The position I thought we are sadly lacking at in the game was WR. At this point in time Watkins isn't as good as Marshall and Woods isn't anywhere close in talent to Decker. And the #3 and beyond doesn't get better at either. Whaley has made a number of good moves, trade for Hughes, resigning Rickie and Glenn, and resigning Hughes, team friendly contract for TT, plus many other smaller moves. But he hasn't looked too good on the big moves like the trade for Watkins, and McCoy. Actually with Watkins, I was OK with the trade itself as to giving up a 1st and 4th, if he had played at the level expected, but he hasn't. fFve years from now, it could still end up being a good deal as we saw late last season what he can do, but not at the moment. Trading Kiko for McCoy was OK, but then giving him the big extension wasn't very smart. Agree do wonder how much truth there is to this that it was Terry hire. If so do need to give Whaley more of a pass and hope that Pegula learned from this and the next time, leave it to the experts to make the decision Agree here too, likely Rex expected everyone to buy into his D big time, but didn't happen. I also don't think the defense was as good in 2014 as people claim it to be as can recall at least two late games where we may have won if the defense had stopped the other team but couldn't. They looked great on paper, but not as dominant during the actual games which is where it matters most. IMO if Marrone and Schwarz had stayed, I doubt we'd be a top five defense the following season.

3 what years?? I'd disagree with that. GM's usually get at least two if not three coaching hires before someone figures out the issue may really be the GM. Rarely have I seen GM's fired that quickly. How much of Rex being a Pegula move is true, who knows. But I'd think if there is any truth to it, Pegula didn't get where he is today by being dumb, I'd think he'd learn his lesson and not do that again.

If you look at most teams, GM's are given at least 2 if not 3 coaching hires before you finally decide the problem really is the GM and get rid of him. In Whaley's case it's kind of an unprecedented move when one coach quits, and if the rumors are true that Rx was more of a Pugula hire, would then tend ot give Whaley a pass.

For the most part I'm a Whaley support and have stated , if you're going to get rid of him, what makes you think you'll find someone better to replace him with. If talented front office people were available, every team would have one. Having said that I do feel the biggest issue on this team isn't so much Rex as much as lack of talent. Whaley has made many good moved over the years, more than Nix and Levy did, but he's failed bad on the big moves. The Hughes trade, signing TT to a team friendly deal, resigning Cog, Glenn, and others were good. I don't think trading a 1st and a 4th for Watkins was so bad if Watkins had lived up to his expectations. Trading Kiko for McCoy was good until you resigned him to an extended overpaid deal. The Clay deal wasn't bad except his play has dropped off. Kind of over stating the obvious, but the number of bad deals is starting to become too many to compete. When you compare for example the Jet's WR against Buffalo last night, how could they expect to win. Maybe Whaley would be fine to continue as GM, provided there's someone over seeing and approving his moves as he seems to be too big of a gambler on his own.

So I'll take a different angle here, could it be Roman was fired for needing to waste a TO on the dumb 2nd time called play when they brought EJ in. That time out was huge in that they could have three TO left on last series, would have allowed them to kick deep, stop the Jet's and get he ball maybe at the 50 instead of their own 20 and instead have around one full minute left. So could it be instead it came down from Terry or Whaley, Roman needs to go. Or if Rex did fire Roman over that play call, can't blame him. I'm not one to typically over react, but IMO for that play call he deserved to be fired! While I don't disagree with most of what Sully stated, there were a number on half trues in there to serve his own position, so won't give him that much credit.

Belichick won 11 games with Matt Cassell, not sure he's won 11 games combined since. So yeah. he'd figure out how to win with TT too.

The Jet's are playing the Bills this week. Of course this is a story!

They all say that until you pull up with a truck full of money.

I liked the little take off on the Beatles Abbey Road album, with them "marching" across the street.

Was it deciphered and obsoleted or did he just not have the players that he had initially? The other thing that I think may have effected him in NY, the last two years, Mike Pettine was gone as DC and DT took over as DC. Personally I think DT is pretty clueless, in that respect and glad to see Rob here as think he will basically take Rex's place at running the defense. For Rex's defense to succeed the biggest star needs to be Rex himself, and last year Mario tried to over shadow him and just created a mess.

We've heard of him... No wait, that was Golden Tate!

Of course!! If they had lost those two seasons, then it would have been on Rex, but since they won, then it's not on him So using your argument, if Rex had won last year and team made the playoffs again it would have been because of the team he inherited. So since they lost with a team that wasn't his as you argue, then guess you can't blame him for the loss now either can you. Wasn't his team!

I completely agree with continuity being a good thing. That being said, in all honestly reading your statement, I can't figure out if you're implying that was a good thing or a bad thing to have kept Lewis. Yes they have won, but completely imploded in the playoffs.