Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

I voted for Carolina, though am rooting for Denver as would like to see Peyton win one and go out on top. But will be surprised if it happens as can't see Denver being able to hold Carolina from scoring enough. Don't know if this has been mentioned or not, but it kind of reminds me of the 91 Bills Giants game. Bills crushed Oakland 51-3, beat Miami the week prior pretty good, offense was humming along. Giants were playing their back up QB, everyone was asking how could the Giants slow down Buffalo's offense. Granted the Giants did have a better running game than Denver, but in many ways reminds me of that game as no one is giving Denver much of a chance, mainly due to Peyton.

Yeah, but the Denver defender in front of him could have lumped up to cut off most of the angles, and if he lead him much the next defender also would have been in the passing lanes. Would had to have been a perfect pass to thread it in there.

Yeah, but if they had kicked and assumed made, then kicked off Denver would likely not have been pinned in quite so deep, who know what would have happened?? Is this Wade's first Super Bowl? I'm pretty certain he only came to Buffalo after their four SB run had ended, can't recall if he went with some other team, as he's been with so many over the years So here's a question, when the Bronco player fumbled it, if the NE player had recovered it clean without being "touched down" Could he have ran it back into the endzone and would NE then still get the 2 points. Or is it kind of like a field goal, once a kick is blocked, they play is dead for the team attempting the play? I'm assuming the answer is no, but not certain what exactly the ruling would be??

I live in Eastern NC and go to the Waffle House quite a bit. Great breakfast!! I don't ever get any kind of meat, just get the eggs,hash browns, and toast. Always fast and decent, no complaints. Ironically the one menu item that they seem to struggle with making are their waffles. They seem to burn them or forget to make them half the time, but I don't bother with them. Waffle House tends to be an acquired taste, kind of like White Castle which I also like.

That is true, however in the case of Mario he seems to have a very small window where he is happy and plays well. From rumblings, it sounds like a similar thing happened in Houston prior. Even was it his 1st or 2nd year here everyone was ripping him for his level of play. So for as much money as he's making, can't really fault the Bills or Rex on this one. Will be interesting to see how many teams will give him big $$ considering his past reputation.

Sure if you want to do nothing for the rest of your life which many would be fine with, even then at his age at 4.5% per year not going to last him all his life.. But he wants to be a coach, if what you're implying is true he wouldn't be out interviewing. From that standpoint, what he did by quitting in hindsight was career suicide.

I think the wool was pulled over their eyes too. When he was hired I'm certain they believed all these things to be true, else why hire him? But they found out wasn't exactly so as did the fans. It also could be to get information from him. Wouldn't shock me at all to hear that teams often interview guys they have no plans to hire, but they are looking to gleam information from him, maybe others that worked with him, who he'd hire as assistants. Maybe a team is waiting to see what's to happen with Doug Whaley and is interested in hiring DW. So they bring Marrone in, and ask him about Whaley. It's not a big time commitment or cost to bring these guys in, so may be worth doing it. Wouldn't also rule out it may also be partly doign a favor for the agent, or they are interested in another client the agent has, so agree to interview both. I don't think he was smart at all. If he had stuck around and been fired, the Bills would have been on the hook for the remainder of his contract, minus any offsets he gets from future employment. But other teams wouldn't be looking at him in such a negative light if he'd been fired as opposed to quitting. I think by now he realizes walking away was the biggest mistake of his career. He probably got around $1.8 mil after taxes not enough to live the rest of his life off of at all.

I was happy to see Seattle lose too, I'll never root for Lynch. They better play much better next week though as Az has a good set of receivers, and a good QB to get them the ball and a D as good as Seattle. College football and basketball are more popular down here. Plus too many transplants.

It may be that often whe nthe player goes out of bounds they camera switches to a "close up view" of the players untangling themselves, etc and the clock is not in that camera view. By the time they switch back to the "wide view" that includes all the graphics, the ball has been re-spotted and clock has restarted. Some times it will be re-spotted more quickly than others, so it likely did stop for a couple of seconds, but you didn't see it, or maybe it is the officals choice that sometimes he doesn't feel the need to stop it at all. Think you may have that part backwards. If he goes out of bounds heading backwards of his own free will, the clock does NOT stop. But if he's tackled in a backwards direction OOB, then the clock WILL STOP as he had not deliberately caused. That was the argument in the Sammy Watkins play, the clock should have stopped because an opposing player tackled him OOB and dove him backwards. Well just read a later response, maybe either way it should stop in the NFL??

So all the position are now filled, and Dougie will spend another season on the unemployment line. You'd think after two years of being turned down, (two year total has to be near half the teams in the league) he'll look much harder next year at a college position as it seems his chances of getting back to the NFL based on a somewhat mediocre record and have on his resume the distinction of quitting are rather low. If he can succeed in college then the NFL may come calling.

Rex and Rob both entering the 4th of July Hot dog eating challenge at Coney Island!!

I think you raise a very good point here with the one bolded below but from a different view. The football minds may all say how great of a coach Marrone would be and maybe they are right. But an owner probably sees a HC who took $4 mil worth of money from another team essentially because he could, and thinking that could have been coming out of my pocket. That in turn may completely tur noff any owner. And yes the argument can be made most teams let the GM hire the coach, not the owner. But I'm sure on every team that GM still is getting the owners buy off on the signing. And in Marrone's case, that ain't happening. The other rather interesting thing I heard listening to that Tim Graham and believe Tyler Dunne podcast a week or so back. It sounded like they felt the person who convinced Marrone to walk away was his wife. She was labeled as a control freak which is kind of funny when comparing to Marrone himself.

Probably right, but my point was more that these cities want to play hard ball and tell the owner, "No we're not giving you a sweetheart deal" but the then once the team leaves they backtrack and give the next guy the same sweetheart deal. Not saying the cities should cave, but if you ended up caving anyway, why not same everyone time and money \and do what you're goign to eventually do anyway.

I read someplace the league will either loan or give (can't recall which) Mark Davis the money to build a new stadium in Oakland.

Actually probably not. If history repeats itself, once the team actually leaves, the city then will turn around and give some new team exactly what their old team that just left had wanted all along. See Baltimore, Cleveland, Houston, and even St Louis.

I think the best part of Whaley signing the extension will be reading Sully's column this week. And Vic may be a close second!

Channel came back now. Other stations were fine, was just NBC

I just lost the TV broadcast of the game. NBC is out, is it local to where I live or all over? I'm watching via DTV, but even OTA nothing

At that point the refs weren't going to call any dead ball penalties, Porter shouldn't be on the field, but not going to get called. At that point nothing is going to get called for dead ball fouls, ..... until you bump the official. The nit's a different ball game.. Granted it was not intentional, but that will be called regardless of situation. Certainly the Steelers instigated it, but doesn't matter.

And they did. At that point it's highly unlikely the refs will call any dead balls either way. They've put their ear muffs and blinders on and swallowed their whistles. Players could yap al lthey want at each other and nothing would have been called, If two players started shoving eachother likely would have called a flag on both rather than move the ball as a result of a dead ball penalty. The only thing you can't get away with it touching an official, which is exactly what the Bengles did. Did the Steelers likely bait him. I'm sure they did, but still can't touch an official even if by accident.

Seems like all these announcers start out good, then go downhill over time. Makes me wonder are the announcers really going downhill or is simply the fact that viewers get tired of listening to them.

Talking with some Steelers fans, they were happy when Lebeau left as flt he was more of the problem than the solution and that the game passed him by. So no probably better to pass

Vic Carucci reported it so it must be true! Kind of sad that he's becoming the punch line of jokes around here I will say! I do wonder if this is some type of an attempt by Tenn to get serious with Chip Kelly. Maybe Kelly's #1 choice is San Fran and if that falls through will go to Tenn. So Tenn is playing the Mularkey card now to force him to take them serious or he could end up another bridesmaid next to Doug Marrone.

True I forgot about LA, though not sure I'd count the Raider's as anything Al Davis related, you have to put an asterisk next to it.

The other thing too is there's not another LA out there. 15 years ago was pretty easy for teams to threaten to move to get whatever they want as there was a long list of cities willing to offer whatever was asked for. It's much harder these days as cities have realized (like St Louis when they lured the Rams there)) that spending billions to build a stadium is not a good investment and won't help long term, so the list of cities willing to do this today is much shorter. Ironically if history is any indication, one city I'd put near the top of the list is St Louis as seems once a city loses a team, then they do come up with the money to build the stadium and offer the deal that would have kept the team from leaving in the first place. See Cleveland, Houston, Baltimore (seems I'm leaving one other out?) I suppose I should include St Louis as if they had originally made the offer, they may never have lost the Cardinals. So will St Louis be the only city to ever lose two sports teams in the same League? That is quite the distinction.