Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

I'd hardly call two out of six years in the playoffs a string of failures. If a coach succeeded every year, they'd never get fired i.e. Belichick. Gee maybe if Cleveland hadn't been so hasty to fire him they would have reaped the success themselves.

You have limited slots, can't see using one on a kicker who's only reason he's even been with the Bills is because Carp has a weak leg for kick offs. If Carp were to get hurt, they could either likely sign gay as a street FA or sign some ex kicker who is currently not working.

I use to say a similar about the NBA even tougher yet to make the team, 30 teams and only 12 slots. I use to say it's easier to become president of some country than make the NBA as there are more countries in the world than NBA slots.

Agree, but you can kind of make the argument that depth is strong just not very good as a #2 or #3 WR

I haven't had the streaming service In a few years now, but at that time many of the bells and whistles were not available via streaming, like you couldn't do the 4 window view in full screen mode, so you'd be looking at a postage stamp sized view of game. Seems there were some other things too missing from what I recall. In some case buttons were there, but greyed out, like they had plans for the feature, but not yet working.

For my 2,999 post! Be careful with that word, a couple letters off, could have a much different meaning. Though the shoulder part would be interesting to see!

Jet Blue does have free internet, they call it Wi-Fly (how cute) so if you have ST you could probably log onto your account. If think you could also pay to upgrade to a higher speed. Hope it's a long trip as it wasn't very fast, so may take awhile to connect, but maybe the paid upgrade is good. We happened to be flying right over where my daughter lives and sent her a text to wave. She was shocked as didn't understand how I could be in a plane sending a text.

Yeah but I doubt he expected to be anywhere as bad last year as he was. He also suffered getting benched for the 1st time ever. Really can't see it happening.

Seems with vets, teams try to do the guy a favor, if the person really isn't in their plans cut him ASAP to give him a chance and finding another team. (Unless it's NE)

That's about the only way to "stash" him, put him on IR. Unless he's hurt much worst than we know and is likely to be unavailable for some time, can't see any way around it other than cut him and hope no other team selects him, but typically a 4th rounder who has looked decent in training camp would never make it through waivers. I suppose the Bills could start a rumor that Jones has failed his 3rd drug test since camp started. Maybe that would keep other teams away.

Well typically one thing the NFL doesn't seem to do is suspend someone without giving ample warning so the team can figure out their options. So based on that he may not get suspended to next season.

So we also have from what I've read a good blocking TE. So you're saying after Clay and Gragg and the blocking TE, the rest all suck?? Do I have that right?? Um.... so first off, how many of the rest of those guys do you even think will be on the roster?? secondly, exactly how many teams have a top level 4th string TE??

Historically GM's usually survive at least two if not three coach hiring's before they figure out the GM may actually be the problem here. Whaley has sort of hired two coaches, however one of them quit which is kind of an unprecedented move in the NFL so nothing to really gauge that against, and the second one if the rumors are true was more Pegula's choice than Whaley. Supposedly Whaley wanted Hue Jackson. So maybe I'd give Whaley a total of one coach hiring for him at this point. Assuming this year is a complete disaster, if anything I could see at year end Pegula fires Rex and tells Whaley, OK, you choose the next coach and I won't get involved this time other than to talk to the guy before we sign the contract, but you pick him (or her).

They were talking about this same last week on the Mike and Mike show, how baseball was able to build up a huge war chest, but will never work in the NFL because the players careers are so short, they'd basically be striking to make sure the guys in HS won't be subject to Roger ruling on suspensions. Or they can agree to instead take an extra 5% in their pension and Roger keeps doing the same. Which will it be?? They also mentioned how 90% of the players in the NFLPA never get suspended or fined, so again why go on strike for the 10% bad apples.

The problem isn't that Wilcox is so bad, the problem is that he does the Bills games every other week or so!!

I thought his column was pretty lame. Yes what he stated is true, but every team in all sports does the same. Backups are expendable, you make examples out of them, but not starters. Plus he also conveniently forgot to mention that the Bill's have decent depth at RB. If everyone stayed healthy at RB until week #5 (which is a very big if) who should you cut to bring Karlos back? It was kind of similar to the Fred Jackson situation last season, he may only be the #4 guy.

I was kind of wondering if this was more of an audition for Gay for other teams to look at him. Maybe they've seen enough of Carpenter in camp to know he can and will handle kick offs this year. So we'll give his leg a rest tonight (though he did still kick off) and let Gay show other teams what he can do whe nwe cut him. If so, wasn't a very good audition for him.

There's about $12 million reasons why he'll be back. Well actually about 9 million reasons as he's going to lose $3 million for the 4 games he's out.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. It's only pre-season, but is the defense really playing better or do the Giants just really suck? Three things I see as different. Mario Williams is gone and maybe he had even a bigger negative impact than anyone on the outside realized. Don't laugh but Rob Ryans presence may be helping in that he actually understands what rEx wants to do where as I don't think Thurman did, so Rex had to try and play DC in addition to HC. I also think Rob's presence could help in that he likely won't be at all afraid to tell Rex, your idea sucks! Players have a year of learning the D under their belt.

The success or failure this year of the team defensively was more up to the remaining players not so much Ragland and Lawson. They are both rookies. As for Karlos, I think J Williams and Bush can make up for him

I've said for many years the GM is much more important than the coach. There are many examples in many sports where the team would go through coach after coach and kept losing until they finally found and hired a good GM. While you can question some of the moves made by Whaley, I do think the team does have more talent than when he got here so he hasn't been all that bad. So if you're going to dump him, you better find someone who really is better. Teams aren't dumping good GM's I believe Matt Milan is available. You can easily find a guy on some team on a winning team who maybe was the director of player personal and bring him in here as the next GM, but maybe the reason he looked so good was because of a good GM, not because he was so good. Basically that's kind of how Whaley got here. You want to get rid of Whaley fine, just recognize there's a much better chance his replacement could be worse. It's the same with teams hiring OC and DC from winning teams and expecting them to come in and become a great HC. A few of them do, but more often they fail. I'd also add this, if the rumors are true that Whaley wasn't completly in favor of hiring Rex, but it was more of a TP move, TP doesn't strike me as a huge ego driven guy, so he may instead go to Whaley and tell him I'd made a mistake getting involved the last time. You pick the next HC, I want to talk to the guy, but the choice is completely on you this time. And he gives him another shot as he also realizes he could do much worse. And please lets not suggest Grandpa Bill Polian

She looks pretty good to me, but at my age, the eyes were the first thing to go.

Similar to what I got, $30 off per month for a year and free ST.

Hope it's not the guy in the red shorts??

So haven't seen anything official is IK done for the year with knee?? Or is this thread just saying IK sucks in general so lets replace him??