Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

That makes it tough to rip the Bills and Whaley

TT so far has accuracy problems and anticipating the WR getting open. That IS part of the problem. But unless you have a Tom Brady back there, this group of WR isn't going to scare anyone. If I were to assess blame I'd put our lack of top NFL caliper WR's at about 65% and maybe 35% is TT's fault. I'd put a disclaimer there too that maybe TT shares more of the blame, but so far haven't seen enough of him with a good WR group to know would he be doing much better with better players, or would it be the same identical results? Until that happens I'll put the bulk of the blame on probably the worst group of starting WR's in the league.

So how exactly is the training staff supposed to know his hamstring is bad if the player says he's fine and can go? Is there some device out there they stick into his leg and determine the hamstring is still injured? If a player is recovering fro ma broken bone or something, you could X-ray it and determine if still cracked but don't think there's any way to gauge something like a hamstring other than what the player tells you. In the case of a vet, in most cases you're going to give the benefit to the player. If he says he's fine, you let him play. Are players the best judge in that situation probably not, but that's the way life in the NFL works. As to the original theme of this tread and blaming the Bills training staff, was listening this morning on Mike & Mike and they were saying how it seems there are so many injuries league wide and they were blaming alot of that on the new CBA and it's limited practice time. Didn't the Bills training staff just win some award maybe two years ago for having the top training staff in the league?? Not saying they are great or anything, but kind of ironic that they now should be fired.

YES!! And you're lucky if you have one in 10 years. When was the last time Cleveland had a franchise QB, Tampa before Winston, and who knows if he'll pan out, Jets. Three weeks ago, people in Miami were suggesting the fish should trade for Cutler to replace Tanerhill. Daulton is another one they are ready to run out of town half the time. Can add Chicago to this list of teams gone more than 10 years, Oakland, (may have their guy now) Washington, Tenn (may have their guy now) but took them a long time. Houston is still a merry-go round and their latest $80 mil pickup is questionable, Denver got two good years out of Manning, but right now they may not be in any better shape than Buffalo. People make it sound like all the Bills need to do is decide to go and get a franchise QB and the problem is solved. More than half the teams in the league can't find one and about 1/2 of those with one was more the result of dumb luck than anything i.e. Brady, Romo. You can "suck for Luck" but if it's not the right year, may just as easily end up with a Ryan Leif or a guy like Russell from Oakland. So before you run TT out of town, decide what the answer is instead that you think may be better.

OK, os if 46.3% of 2 point conversions were successful, that means prior to changing the rules, too go for two all the time, you would have to be successful kicking from the two less than 92.6% I'm pretty certain extra points were like in the 98 to 99% range prior to the change. So that says it was much smarter to kick back then. Now that it's been moved back are kicks made greater or less than 92.6%? The answer to that likely varies by team. As far as stopping an offense from gaining two yards, huge difference between stopping a team from gaining two yards when you're at the 50 yard line or even the 20 yard line than from the two as you now have 11 guys only needing to defend 12 yards of turf.

Do you have any statistics to back that up? Even going back to the old rules, teams are all dat driven if there was better than a 50/50 chance of scoring from the 2 yard line on one play, they'd all have been doing it a long time ago. Think I one time saw a stat that put the odds at scoring at 43% from the two. So now from what it it the 20 or 25 yard line, itf the 43% was the correct number, then the odds would say there's more than an 86% chance of making the kick from that distance. If you feel your kicker is less than that, then yes go for two.

That is a problem. Not sayings the Bills are in any way wrong, but when a paper like the news (or radio station like WGR) writes what the team feels are bad unfounded things, the team will keep them at arms distance, probably not give them any scoops or do anything to make their job easier, so then what happens is the News or WGR will try even harder to fault them whenever they can and things just escalate from there.

Yes but it's not the national game. Fox has the doubleheader. Granted can't recall of situations where they flexed a 4:05 regional game to 4:25 national game. And I was responding to the specific comment about Bills games getting moved to 4:00 not primetime.

The problem with the Oakland game is Fox has the doubleheader that week. So to move the game to 4:00 I believe means Fox would need to give give up some other game in it's place so gets more complicated. CBS may feel they don't want to give up that game as that might be a better game than any game they'd get a return.

Agree, should have written it better, I'd trade him for a #1, but agree not likely we'd get that. Though he isa a top talent, so maybe someone would still take a chance. So without getting a #1 I'd take my chance on keeping him

Even beyond that, there's "in-shape" and play 6 games of football shape. So not surprised as many of these players who sit out for various reasons, hold outs, suspensions, injuries come back and get hurt right away, even though they felt they were in shape. As far as what his teammates think, probably about 1/2 are thinking, man I've been extremely lucky that I haven't been caught yet myself. That could easily be me and I'm not the superstar that they'd keep around. Having said that I'd certainly listen to any decent trade offers, would want a #1 in return, without that high a pick I'll take a chance on him not failing another test. Next time is it a year off or 10 games??

McCoy has a good shot at AFC Offensive player of the week (if had caught that pass for a 4th TD would have locked it up) If he were to win it, would that be 3 weeks in a row for a Bills player winning award?

Agree on those two things, but you need the smarts and ability to handle off the field stuff too make it long term. He's a gun slinger type (gee where did he get that from) but alos many TO and that's playing against overall talent less than he's at. How will that work when playing against 11 guys who are as good as he is? I'd agree, that's a pretty good comparison Has something else happened recently that you base that on? Maybe I missed it? Was there a post game melt down after yesterdays game?

The reason was his contract. If he got hurt at all, then his 2017 salary was fully guaranteed. Once he agreed to re-do the contract and was signed off on last weekend, they will play him. It's basically a1 year contract with next year being an option year Kap can pick up. Likely he's playing the rest of this season to get a big long term deal in the off season with some other team. If he plays terrible the remainder of this season, then maybe Kap picks up[ the option for next season as may be more than he'd get on the market. Though not sure if it's anyway guaranteed so maybe the team can still cut him?

On a somewhat similar topic, does anyone know if this offer to get ST through Playstation actually work? Do you get it no questions asked or is it one of these things again that is only supposed to be an option for people who can't receive DTV? Is it some type of one year offer that only works the first year you buy Playstation or can you get the Ticket via Playstation every season?

Of course, this has been proven multiple times with irrefutable evidence, conversely the EJ signing is all Whaley and nothing what-so-ever to do with Nix.

Thought I heard it now has changed so that as soon as the game ends you can watch it. I believe you can watch it live IF you are outside the US. Not that I would suggest such a thing, but if you were to spoof your IP address so it thinks you're outside the US, you could then watch it live. I have Sunday Ticket so I do don't need it, but do know someone jjust recently who did the spoofing part, and watched it live via BBC. Just need to put up with British commercials, but atleast they are in English. Well sort of English!

Glad I don't live in an actual NFL city as you end up with less games on TV as they always black out opposite the local game.

The other funny thing is the Ravan's fired Tressman after starting out 3-0, then losing two games, and no national attention like the Bills got for doing the same.

Can't see anyone trading for Tannehil with the contract he just signed.

funny I was going through the same thing in my head today too and came up with the same 9 wins and assumed losses to Seattle NE, and Pitt. Yeah could likely come down to those two, with both on the road unfortunately.

Yes but Whaley has failed at finding a franchise QB. That is the easiest position around to find and draft. Don't understand it, every other team in the league has one, some even 2 or 3. But Whaley has failed there and can't even find one. He needs to be fired!

True, but do you believe that TT deliberately didn't think to lead him or was it just another one of his somewhat off target passes. Considering how many others there were like that where the WR had to jump, stop, come back etc, I can't blame the play concept unless that was the plan

Well it more shows how little most who post here really know. Practically everyone here wants pro bowl level play out of rookies and when it doesn't happen, then that player needs to be replaced and Whaley is an idiot for not doing that. O-line is probably one of the toughest spots for rookies to com in due to the fact the O lineman typically play all game, they don't sub out unless they get hurt or nicked up. So the "rookie wall" likely hits them much harder than other positions. But armchair GM's won't accept that. Completely 100% untrue!!, the team let a rookie get a year older. They get that!

I heard Gannon ripping them, but if they called the TO when he thought they should have, there would have been one less available at the end. Often you'll see the Bills (and others) end the half with still having a TO left, if that had happened here it would be a legit point, but since that didn't happen really don't see much of a difference as to when you call it. You can make the argument better to call them later is better when you know calling them isn't going to result in giving the ball back to the other team with more time for them to work with. I think in general there's no urgency by any teams anymore in the two minute drills. I've been watching football since the mid 60's and seems to me all this "Omaha", "53's the Mike" does nothing but slow down the play calling. And it seems with todays play calling teams and QB's can' seem to function without that stuff, they can't just say well it's under 2 minutes I'll skip all that stuff to speed up the play calls. It's the same speed regardless of clock time left. That's not clock management issues, that's just a bad pass.