Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

But is this model really working for them? Seems all you hear all over is "no way am I paying for a subscription" I'm sure there are many that do pay, but would they be further ahead with putting ads on the pages? There's just too much free stuff out there to justify paying. Since the TV and radio stations aren't competing for print, they'll likely always be free so that takes away many who'd even think about paying.

I'm driving up on Saturday from Wilmington. Also have club seats. Didn't know the train went from Durham to Charlotte.

So I know these forums are run by people here who contribute. Is Two Bills drive also run by the same group?? If so maybe should consider putting all the BN articles at the bottom of the que instead of the top since most can no longer access. Put the frees ones on top like Syracuse. If they realize their clicks will go down, may make them think more about what they are doing with the paid access.

From the 70s to the late 80's it was also very bad. Then they came out of nowhere that one year, stayed very respectable for a good ten years or so, then faded back to the 60's again.

It it cheaper than the last time they did this, only $3 a month. So papers want close to that per week.

Most Phins /Bucs fans live in the Florida area and likely at this point the last thing they are thinking about is Sundays game. they were talking this morning about the neutral site and was brought up how the players would probably rather be home with their families than away some place, and maybe not able to get back afterwards too.

Actually every BN article I clicked on got the pay for access thing. Are they trying this again? I recall back about 2 years or so you got like 10 articles free a month or something, then no more access without paying. Seemed like eventually they gave up on it, maybe they are trying again. Actually when they started limiting access (as did Roch D&C) I started reading the Syracuse articles much more. Just can't see in this day and age with as much free stuff as there is out there, anyone hardly paying for a subscription. Seems they'll lose more viewers than having articles with ads?? The local newspaper for the city that I live in limits you to I think 3 articles per week. So instead read the articles on the TV station websites.

I've wondered if the reason they kept Crossman was because the guy they really wanted had one year remaining on his contract, barring spectacular play, Crossman will be gone after this season.

I've read the article twice. It doesn't say that at all. I even went and looked on about another 10 links and no where does it state the team is required/forced to sign him. It doesn't state they are NOT required, but doesn't state they are required either. All of the links are stated in language that assumes the team wants the player, so the team "gets him"

Friends with him or he played for him?? There's a big difference, but I get it, the "friends" part fits your narrative better.

So what exactly is normal. Do you have any statistics to show when a new coach and GM take over, what percentage of players on average remain? But would also have to determine the quality of the players inherited too which is pretty much impossible to compare. From what is posted pretty much all the complaints center around Vlad being here and that they cut the backup running back who two months ago everyone was posting how screwed we were for letting Mike G leave and now are stuck with Williams as the backup.

Well that's good as I live dead center on the coast where it's showing making landfall. That being said, as many here stated, Charlotte is way inland and the game is a week later.

I sense Pegs isn't the type of owner that is impatient and wants immediate results or will change course like in Washington, or Cleveland. But he also realized he made a big mistake with Rex so made a quick move to fix it. And he may have also leaned from that to not have a coach and GM that aren't both on the same page, so he also moved on from DW. I really believe they will get at least four years (of the five they are signed to) to show they are going in the right direction. With all the draft picks they have next year, can certainly see by year 3 of their tenure should see improvement and in year 4 should be solid. They also seem to have the front office in place to find talent.

The other thing Yates has going against him is that his salary for the entire season is guaranteed if on roster opening day. But the one thing in his favor is TT is also out right now. My guess is Yates will be on the roster today, but IF TT isready for next weeks game, Yates may be cut on Friday or so.

Yup you're right, what does a guy who does this full time as a living know compared to and internet poster like yourself!

I think the fact that you have a coach and GM who are tied together also is a big plus, (inspite or what some people may argue they aren't in sync) I don't think Whaley was in favor of either Rex or Marrone, but they were brought here. In spite of how much Whaley to his credit tried to sign the guys Rex may want, if he truly doesn't believe in the guy Rex wants he may not go as far to sign him, feels he's just not worth the money he wants, etc and doesn't sign him. I'd be surprised to see much of that going forward between these two.

Seems I recall last year during the pre-season the O-line was playing just as bad and everyone was in a panic then too, then the regular season started and everything was fine. Guess I'll wait till the regular season starts before I worry about it again.

Just when you think people can't get any dumber, something always comes along and surprises you!

I expect they will sign someone to play this Thursday game as won't want to risk your only healthy QB who somewhat knows the system to also get hurt. Whomever that might be will likely be cut prior to the 1st game assuming either TT or Yates is healthy. If neither is still healthy you keep the new guy, however that may mean you only sign a guy who doesn't fall under the "vet" rules where his full years salary is guaranteed if on the roster opening day.

I think Sammy will have a pretty good to great year as most guys in contract years all of a sudden play through the little nicks that has kept him out the past few seasons. But once he gets that big new contract, reverts back to his old self. So yes am happy with the trade but expect a big year from Sammy and the board will be flooded with all the people who were against the trade saying "see how dumb the Bills are again" But in three years or so when he's below average, won't hear a word from them.

I've got tickets will be going

That's not the worst thing either. Assuming you're correct, next spring they trade a couple more stars, or if nothing else cut them. Let Peterman play next year, you have six top three round picks, start them all, they get a year under their belt and you could again have a top pick and take the QB then. At least you'd have some potential top players with a years experience under their belt too, plus guys from this year with 2 years playing time. I don't think it's the worst idea to first get the players around the QB, then get the QB. Seems to work better that way. See Seattle, Dallas, Tenn.

From what I recall TT looked about the same last year in pre-season in fact I recall the O-line also looked completely lost. Once the season started , while the offense wasn't great, they weren't as anywhere near as bad as they looked pre-season. I'm sure he's told no scrambling and the defense senses that too so much easier to stop him.

Didn't a similar thing happen a few years back with some other player? Pre-season started the other guy to send a message to the stronger player. Basically you need to wake up! When the live bullets started flying, the regular guy was in there.

It seems last year in pre-season I recall the same identical issues, TT looked terrible, O-line was terrible. Then a funny thing happened the regular season started, and while the offense wasn't the next coming of the Greatest Show on Turf, they played respectable. I do think TT's strengths (his legs) are taken out of the pre-season so makes him look much worse, no blocking schemes attempted. If they look like this Oct 1st, then time to worry.