Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

No I get that it was sarcasm. My point was if the NFLPA gets what they want, it may not be so far fetched to see this happen. And actually it was the head of their union who brought up the one year contract fears in that "yeah maybe it's not something we really want"

The NFLPA often talks about guaranteed contracts, they say that could be one of the by-products of it. Other than the super stars, the lower level players all get one year contracts only.

It very likely could be he told the Bills he wanted to go to a team where he could compete for the starting job. That wasn't going to happen here in Buffalo so didn't matter how much the Bills offered, he wasn't signing an extension here.

Yeah it's no different than the week before when the game was out of reach against the Saints. Petermann came in and looked terrific and drove them right down the field and scored. I'm not a TT hater or lover, but the last two games he played, he was awful

I fully understand the idea of a coach coaches to a certain style, Rex wasn't going to coach Swartz defense. McDermott /Dennison aren't going to do exactly what Lynn did last year, etc. And by no means are the Bills unique in that regard. Every team and every coach does that. It may not make sence to many fans, but that's just the way it is, so accept it. Now the coach brings in his style of assistants for scheme he wants to run, then you go out and get the players to fit that style. The problem though is to get enough players to play your style and are good enough to make a difference in the number of wins a team has takes a couple of seasons usually to accomplish. So if all goes well that works and you're deemed the next Bill Walsh. But any type of hiccup in the process, above normal number of injuries, owner that has much less patience than others, etc; you don't get the wins. Now instead you're fired and in comes the next guy to start all over. So am wondering why the coaches haven't figured out that I really need to bring in coaches and play a style that fits the current players else by the time I can turn this ship around I'll likely be fired. But yet the draft experts praised the Bills draft. But what do they know, I'm sure you're way smarter than people who do this for a living.

So didn't he have something to prove after the Jet game? He played just as bad the next week, actually played much worse. I'm not against TT, but posts like this are just plain stupid as TT has done very little to earn any trust.

I'm guessing Sherman must only watch the highlights on Primetime or something if he thinks it was only one bad game. Obviously the change didn't work out too well, but TT has been real bad for the past two games and even prior had maybe one to two real good games

Was listening yesterday afternoon to the Bamonte Jones show, he had on some guy who covers the NFL with an Irish/British accent, didn't catch the name. (Maybe he thought he was there to discuss Futbol) He was saying how terrible dumb decision by the Bills to bench TT. His arguments were that the reason TT isn't making the throws is his receivers are never getting open which from everything you hear, the opposite is true. And the second point is that TT throws amazing deep ball. Now that could be argued that the deep ball is TT's best throw only because the rest are all so bad. I think the first game TT played he had tow good deep passes, since then it's been worse overall, again most being uncatchable. Overall my impression was sounded like an interview from a guy who's watched TT highlights on Sportcenter and that's about it. But that's why the national media is ripping on the Bills for benching TT due to "insight" like this.

I'll be very surprised if they aren't given 4 years including the current season. Pegula strikes me as the kind of guy who doesn't want to make changes, but has recently made alot because he realized that mistakes were made. Feel like this time he picked people and will let them develop together and give them time. Where's the flawed part? While they won't admit to tanking, they went out of their way to trade away players who weren't good fits for draft picks to build for the future. The problem they ran into was the team then went and started 5-2. Sure they could have signed some over priced FA this past off-season who would have continued to keep them in salary cap hell, instead they went the other way. You'll likely see as much turn over in this coming off-season as you did this past year as they get the players they want. The one difference is they won't be as hampered by money, but again, think you'll more see the team built through the draft.

The one thing that worries me about that is, are you then getting a guy who looks pretty good, so you build around him, but in three years you figure out he reached his cap around 2 + years ago. I'm not against playing him, but the quote heard often about "most NFL ready coming out of the draft" does worry me some.

how about San Diego and Ryan Leaf, Who drafted Rick Meier #2 was it? And yes those weren't trades, but my point is trading up gives you as much chance at drafting the next Ryan Leaf as it does Carson Wentz

So what makes you think trading up gives you a franchise QB? The only thing it gets you is for the next year, you can tell everyone you have your QB until he starts playing alot. I'm not saying TT is the answer and they should stick with him, but this whole trading up thing is pretty risky as opposed to filling a number of holes with the picks you have. Are there any guaranteed successes out there? And I get it, if you don't try you'll never know. But one thing I'm pretty certain of based on past history, of all the QB's taken next year in the 1st round, within 3 to 4 year close to half will be backups and within 5 years likely at least one if not two will probably be out of football completely.

Here's what I think is even a stupider one than that. A D lineman jumps off-sides, but not so far off-sides that ref blows it dead. So the DL is heading right for the QB and likely will sack him. A O lineman hooks (holds) the guy to stop him from sacking the QB The result, Off-setting penalties. To me thta'sa really dumb one.

Because it just doesn't happen very often anymore. The difference between the best teams in the league and the worst is rather small. So teams lose games unexpectedly. And since the Saints haven't lost in 6 weeks, they are due. Many are thinking the Bills have a decent shot at making the playoffs. Will they make it who knows, but are they really one of the 12 best teams in the league, or are they maybe the 20 best team in the league? But the difference between the 8th best and the 20th best isn't so huge, that with just a little luck they could be in there.

Hard to win 7 games in a row, they are due for a loss.

With the game on Christmas Eve can see many season ticket holders wanting to sell. however as was pointed out the rules there in NE sounds makes it tough. The other big difference is comparing between the OP's comparison to Atlanta is that's in the south. People down south only care about SEC football. You can easily get Falcons tickets, but not Bulldogs, or Fins tickets but not Hurricanes.

I'd be surprised to see the same team get offense and defensive coordinator award. I could see the D coord award going to Jax

Sure and Carr could have done as well as his brother. And Watson could be another Ryan Leaf. In fact he still may be, 6 games doesn't exactly define a career. So yeah you can get guys without having the #1 overall pick, but they could just as easily be a bust. No one knows. And how was picking Carr or Watson any different than the picks of Losman and EJ? They just didn't work out, but in foresight (as opposed to hindsight) they were just as good of a pick. Maybe slightly higher than they should have went, but not by a huge amount.

Since 2000 the Bills have signed Rob Johnson, Flutie, Bledsoe, Fitz, to name most but not all drafted Losman, Edwards, Manual. They've tried many different things and none have worked out well. Does that mean they have terrible scouts? Yup I guess you're right, but if bad scouting is based on drafting QB's then just about every team in the league has terrible scouting . Which was what Kelly's point was. If it's so easy to find these gems, teams with good scouts would have drafted multiple good ones. But it's not it's mostly just luck. Some years having the #1 overall pick might yield a good one, some years that doesn't even help. Then there's the cry you'll here from some "If Beane" can't find a franchise QB, then he needs to be fired" Then we can bring in some assistant GM from some other team who has failed at drafting QB's.

I'd like to see them resign him, but agree too much like Jones and Jones will probably be much cheaper. If he finds he's not getting what he thinks, maybe they will . think WR will be interesting overall in the off-season. what do the Giants do with OBJ, Sammy?? These are two big names who expect real big $$, but OBJ has just had way too many off field things going on, and Sammy even with a very good QB looks average. (unless this past week is a big sign of things to come.

We should bring this thread back in April when next years schedule comes out and right away there will be a ten page long thread talking about how much tougher of a schedule we have for the upcoming season. And will be tough to duplicate last seasons win total.

I feel good about this game for two big reasons. The Bills are home, see there's a high of 43 predicted for a dome team, that should help 2nd thing is NO has won 6 straight, rarely these days do teams win 7 in a row as there just isn't that big of a difference between the best team and the worst team in the league. So that I feel favors the Bills.

Think there needs to be a Tier 1A also for guys that are paid like Tier one but don't quite perform at that level, but then results in the team letting other players go to save salary. It leave the team low on talent and a QB not quite as good as Brees, Rodgers, and Brady but paid like he is.

While I agree with your logic, the problem here is everyone expected the Bills to only shoot in the 90's all year. But they came out with those great rounds, so now wonder, were they just somehow lucky all those weeks and the 90's are going to be the rule. We'll find out over the next couple of weeks. Up north you often don't play golf all winter, how often is one of your best rounds for the year the first time you play, it seems mainly because you don't tend to think as much what you're doing.

Initially I was going to agree with the "O'Leary has an awful fumble and now we need to change a rule' crowd, but after reading your reasoning about QB slides, concussions, etc. regardless of what happened last night I will agree the game has changed and maybe the rule should change to college. On the other hand the pro rule does add more excitement which I do think the NFL tends to need more than the college game does.