FilthyBeast

I suppose there's a chance that Moss could still be traded but what real value does he have anyway, a conditional 7th round pick if the Bills are lucky??

I'm not sure I see it that way, if anything it shows there is a trouble in paradise so to speak and validates what a recent former players have said about the Bills culture and front office. Just a horrendous look and proves no real due diligence was done here or he would have never been drafted in the first place.

I've been critical of Bean in the past but misfiring on Howard pales in comparison to some of his other failures like trading Wyatt Teller, Vernon Butler, Star L, etc. But the bigger issue here is just because Morris and Sweeney both presumably make the final roster don't mean they are any good vs. Howard being that bad/finished in the NFL.

Smart move for both sides. The Lance hype is ridiculous and have a feeling the 49ers also see the inevitable in terms of him struggling and not being a legit starting QB in this league.

It's really disappointing and even though I'm still skeptical of this regimes long term viability, the handling of this situation is a true rookie mistake and terrible look for the organization the longer he's on the roster. Hopefully any minute we'll see news of his release and not having a punter available in a meaningless preseason game is far from the worst thing that can happen.

Still don't see the Jets as any real threat to the Bills compared to the Pats/Dolphins. But bears watching since they were a very scrappy team at the end of the season last year which the Bills know from the regular season finale and could seem them around .500 if everything falls into place. AFC East is definitely going to be one of the tougher divisions in football in the next few years.

What's really concerning to me aside from the fact this guy isn't a former Bill yet and they already dumped Hauck shows the over the top obsession this regime has with garbage players and Special teams. How much use is any punter on this team really going to get on a week to week basis?

The lack of awareness in adequately addressing the DB position for a team with SB aspirations is downright pathetic. Drafting one in the first round is great on the surface but the schedule is very unforgiving this year and I fear Elam's long term development could be ruined if he struggles early which is very likely Beane and McD love playing 'the smartest guy in the room' card but now with a certain punter situation combined with this and a very dark cloud is hanging over the start of the season less than 2 weeks from now.

This team is apparently determined to create any distraction possible when there is enough pressure as it is heading into the season and a brutal first few months of the season. It's...a....rookie....late round....punter....CUT HIM.

I wouldn't do anything with Whites deal for a number of reasons. And I don't see this team handing out any more extensions right now either given the tough decisions that are going to be made next offseason. Beane did mention a restructure but probably would be with one of the backup/role player types on the roster.

There's a good chance this team is sitting around .500 after the first half of the season given the schedule and how many good QB/offenses we face. We don't need to rush him, but we also should have adequately addressed the DB position in FA instead of relying on rookies, including a 1st rounder that doesn't look like he's ready to make a meaningful contribution right away and whose career could be adversely impacted by forcing him into the lineup against some of the league's elite QB/WR combos we are going to see in the first half of the season. As for the continued word salad from McD/Beane/etc they know he's likely not ready and won't be any time soon hence the 'run out the clock' type of comment because once he is put on PUP or IR they don't have to answer media questions anytime soon.

One thing that always stands out with Ford for me is I remember he was posting pics on social media of gaudy jewlery, new cars, etc after signing his rookie contract before playing a down in the NFL. Obviously not the only guy to do this pro sports but thought there was a clear pattern there and showed what he really cared about instead of being humble and knowing the NFL is a different ball game and you have to earn everything despite draft status. Maybe being reunited with Kyler Murray will be good for him but still don't see him every amounting to much in this league.

Talk about going out on a limb here. Will be interesting to see how this team responds in closer games this year and something tells me we won't have to wait long since the Rams game is likely going to be tight and decided late in the 4th quarter.

Can respect Beane for this statement but overall he has been pretty dreadful when drafting in the trenches on both sides of the ball so far with Teller being the only big hit and ironically drafting Ford was one of the main reason he was traded to the Browns.

Drake had a pretty solid run with the Dolphins/Cards, including a near 1000 yard season in 2020. But just goes to show how little RB's are valued in this league which is another reason Beane should pounce on any reasonable offer for Zack Moss if that's a possibility.

This is a bit of a puzzling move. Nothing against Boettger, but he's really a dime of dozen type of player and given the nature of his injury I don't believe there is any real chance he plays this year so seems like putting him on IR for the season would have been a better decision and let him compete for roster spot next year.

I don't see any team offering a 3rd for Moss 3 years after we drafted him in the same round. But for something like a conditional 5th/6th rounder I think Beane would probably be inclined to do it even if they know they probably aren't resigning Singletary after this season.

That's obviously TBD. Epenesa had a great preseason/camp last year and awesome game in week 2 against the Dolphins but then seemingly disappeared the rest of the way. I still think he's a bit too small for DE and another guy probably better suited in a 3-4 style defense as an OLB. At this point I still like Basham over him as the 3rd DE option, possibly even Shaq Lawson who I've waffled back and forth on in terms of being on the bubble.

Polian was still the best GM, just like Levy was still the best HC. I get the JA17 vs Kelly debate as well but bottom line for me as another long time Bills fan is this current group has to at least get to won SB before any of these comparisons are valid. Get to just one SB and win it and then there's a real logical argument obviously even if this group never returns to that stage.

I would not have guess that Fosters career would be where it is right now after such a promising rookie season in Buffalo especially down the stretch when JA17 returned from injury that year.

Moss would be my choice by default because I hate the idea of doing this RB by committee crap yet again when Singletary has proven himself and Cook will be pushing him for snaps as it is. This is still going to be a pass first team with Allen also eating on the ground and you can't split carries between 3 guys anymore. And considering how Ford has been showcased in hindsight, get the sense that's what they are trying to do with guys like Moss and Epenesa as well.

No GM hits on every pick, especially in the 1st/2nd/3rd rounds. But it's hard to call someone a genius just because he flipped a bust for a 5th rounder. Not really looking to turn this thread into a a debate about Beane but I really don't see him as the messiah some think he is. This team wins a SB that's a different story but until then it's fair to criticize some of the more questionable draft picks he's made.

Yes he's such a genius that he traded up for this guy and spent a 2nd round pick only to trade him a few years later for a 5th rounder.

Yeah but sometimes bills mafia needs to tap the brakes on the over the top Beane love. The bottom line is that he swung and missed big time for a guy he coveted and traded up for. It happens to all GM's but saying 'OMG we got a 5th rounder for Ford' is a loss no matter which way you spin it give the circumstances.

Despite not having the best camp/preseason so far I'd still be inclined to keep Howard over Sweeney if that's what's on the table. But if it's been even between him and Sweeney you get the sense they will still with the latter if anything because he's one of Beane's draft picks.