MJS

Maybe he didn't play his best game, but he certainly was not the reason the offense struggled. Anyone claiming that is correct. But there were a number of throws from Mahomes that had me saying "that wasn't a great throw" and a few times he bailed from the pocket needlessly, or retreated backwards when he should have stepped up in the pocket. And there were a number if WOW plays he made too. But certainly, he did not get enough help and his failings were largely a result of the failings of everyone else around him, because the constant pressure got in his head.

Both are good. I don't really know why we have to compare all these guys. It's ok to like all of them, or dislikes all of them, for that matter. We have Josh Allen as our QB. He took his first steps into the elite realm of QB's. He is going to be the face of the franchise for a long time.

I can't imagine Josh Allen ever demanding to have a say in personnel decisions. He seems content to worry about getting himself better and letting the coaches and front office do their jobs. Of course, there has to be a level of trust established. If Beane starts making super questionable moves and ignores key offensive positions, maybe that would be frustrating for a QB, but even then I don't see Josh Allen making such frustrations known. Does anybody know if there are players with that kind of personnel power? I think definately Brady has had some input with the signings of Gronk and Antonio Brown, maybe others. Doesn't seem like Rodgers has any say. I can't imagine Mahomes does. I wouldn't be surprised if Peyton Manning had some input back in his day, especially in Denver.

Has anyone had a high level business meeting lately? We need more insider info.

I guess I'll be the guy who says this isn't a big deal. He answered the question honestly and he was completely correct in his assessment. And no, I don't think his teammates will look at him differently because of this.

It's like that in a lot of industries. It's not usually about what you know, but who you know.

A lot of them are good coaches, though. Even Rex took his team to two AFC Championship games.

They just seem like your run-of-the-mill Chiefs fans to me. Tone deaf, insufferable, clueless, and rude. Guess the boy got drafted by the right team.

All the good teams have to deal with the same thing though. If they ALL have to take a step back, nothing has really changed. And there are a bunch of good teams with a worse cap situation than the Bills.

Ok. So the belief is that religion is bad for football, I guess. I think many of the players and coaches who come out of the south can be pretty religion. Southern Baptist and whatnot. To me, I just don't see people's religion (or lack thereof) as having any positive or negative impact on the game. Maybe fans like talking about it and trying to make some connections, but I don't see it personally. Isn't Andy Reid religious? He has a bunch of d bags on his team. Talent trumps almost everything, including the purported religious zeal of coaches and management.

I barely even remembered to turn on the game, honestly. It was the least interesting Superbowl I can ever remember.

So you think that religion had something to do with the Bills going 9-7? I don't quite understand the connection.

The Chiefs scored 9 points. I think most offenses in the league could have mustered more than that, so yeah, I think that's accurate. But I'm not sure how many offenses or QB's would have put up that many points. Only a few offenses would have done that.

Yep. Has to be one of the most lopsided Superbowls in a long time. Similar to that Broncos Peyton Manning Superbowl a few years back when they had like the best offense in NFL history and got shellacked in the Superbowl.

Only recently. He used to talk trash about Josh Allen. He was firmly in the "I don't think you can develop accuracy and Allen won't improve" crowd, but always left himself an out by saying something like "but maybe I'm wrong and he will progress". He also predicted that the Chiefs would go undefeated and the Bills would only win like 6 games a couple seasons ago. The Bills won 10 games and the Chiefs lost 4 games, although they did go on to win the Superbowl. His reason for doubting the Bills was his lack of belief in Allen. He only came around to Allen slightly faster than most non-Bills fans.

I like the analysis. Obviously, it isn't an apples to apples comparison. The Chiefs had a capable QB that they continued to build around and try to win with. The Bills had Tyrod Taylor who was one of the worst starting QB's in the NFL. The Chiefs could look for a new QB at a leisurely pace while building the rest of their team. The Bills needed to find a QB as quickly as possible. Mahomes stepped in with a very good squad around him that had been built up over the past few years under Reid. Allen stepped in to a terrible squad devoid of talent on offense, albeit with a good, overachieving defense. But it is interesting to see that Reid has been working towards this for a long time. Let's hope that McDermott and Beane can produce a Superbowl winning squad in the next couple of years.

Do they usually do divisional games in that slot? I could see Dallas, but Dallas sucks. The Bills would have some nice interest around the league, I think.

Maybe opening week. Man would it be awesome to beat the champs opening week and signal to the rest of the NFL that the Bills are hellbent on getting to the Superbowl.

What a sickening thought.

They all looked legitimate to me.

I think it should have been Fournette.

He doesn't need to be the best QB in the league. That would be great, for sure, but if he can maintain top 5, that's good enough to win some Superbowls. Aaron Rodgers has been one of the best, if not THE best, QB's in the league for much of his career. He almost never makes it to the Superbowl.

He is too old...

I actually went into the game planning on rooting against Tom Brady, but found myself rooting against the Chiefs against my better judgement. Not happy to see Brady with another ring, but I'm also not broken up to see the Chiefs taken down so badly.

I mean, he was running behind the receiver and his incidental contact was with the receiver's feet, causing the receiver to trip. It doesn't really matter if he meant it. He tripped the receiver. The only thing that can be brought up is whether or not the ball was catchable, because it was quite a bit overthrown, if I recall.