somnus00

My comment was meant to be predictive. I'm not saying I want Siran at safety.

Benford. McD and Butler are great at developing DBs. Hyde and Poyer were both former CBs who were moved to safety. Siran may also be moved to safety. They took a look at him there in training camp last year.

The guys at Cover1 do a great job with that. The videos are on YouTube.

And they were holding his elbow together with rubber bands and glue. Dude is a warrior.

I'd think they go internal and elevate Butler.

I have no problem with his comments on S. Brown. If i remember, he also only played 7 on 7 football in high school. He's an athletic freak who has near zero experience, and is just learning how to play RT. But I agree with you 💯. We need someone to push him besides just Kromer and Doyle.

Yeah, take a look at cin's last 4 drafts compared with Beane's. The Bengals have made a lot of good selections especially in the first 3 rounds. Beane has a lot of misses in these prime rounds. Bengals have just done a better job of building through draft and free agency.

The path will be difficult. The Jets and Dolphins have both done a good job with roster building. If either of them pick up Lamar or even Carr, they'll be pretty dangerous. That said. We have Allen and Diggs so we'll be dangerous as well. But we'll need a good offseason.

Wingard is intriguing. Poyer and Hyde weren't stars when we signed them. And for all the failure of the Bills developing d-linemen, they are fantastic at developing secondary.

I see what you did there.

Seems like, when healthy, Jordan Philips outplays Oliver, has more fire, and he's cheaper. Oliver is good. Really good at times. But he is no where near where a top 10 pick should be playing. He does not deserve a massive contract from the Bills.

I'm not saying that necessarily, but who knows. I was using his stats to illustrate that we may have a coaching/scheme problem. He was never that productive under McD and Frazier.

Absolutely fair point. Another problem I have is that I wonder how much of this is on coaching. Jerry Hughes leaves to Houston and has his best season in 8 years. He had 9 sacks this year. Right now we have 4 first rounders and 3 second rounders on our d-line. Are they really just bad players, or is Eric Washington a terrible coach (or is it Frazier's scheme)? Same with Edmunds. I wonder if he would've been a star on the 49er or Ravens. Physically he's a unicorn. Is Frazier's defense (innovative for the 90s) holding back his production? This doubt just compounds our crappy situation. How do you fix a problem if you're unsure about what the problem really is?

The giraffe in the room is that Beane needs to look at more help in the draft war room. Maybe a new director of college scouting. This team is just not getting consistent production out of the first 2 rounds. Finding some late round gems is great. But you have to hit, more often then not, in rounds 1 and 2. Boogie, Epenesa, and Ford are huge whiffs. Oliver is not living up to his draft status.

Jerry Hughes had his best year since 2014 (9 sacks this year, 10 in 2014). There is context to look at here, but this is telling. The Bills current defensive staff does not know how to use/develop DEs.

Frazier's contact does not get renewed. Eric Washington fired. John Butler elevated to DC (my hope). I think Dorsey stays (I don't hope).

Agree. I think Jones might be our defensive MVP. He makes Milano, Oliver, Edmunds, Groot, and Von play better.

I'm hoping Doyle pushes Brown for the RT spot. But we need an influx of young cheap talent on the oline via the top 3 rounds of the draft. draft.

Andy Reid is a head coach #1. I never said we should fire McD. Incidentally, Reid wasn't fired after a playoff loss, he was fired after 2 losing seasons (still a mistake in my opinion). #2, Reid consistently got good production out of lesser talent at the skill positions. He has shown creativity, adaptation, and an ability to use his players talents. He's done so for 20 years. You're going to compare him to Dorsey who seemed to regress as the season went on? When the offense is struggling he just relies on Josh as a cheat code to get something going. I'd say we should be patient with him if he showed growth. But i didn't see anything to suggest he'll figure things out in his second year. I hope I'm wrong.

I know you're watching the games, and I appreciate your commentary trying to be a voice of reason. I don't like turnover either. But I saw abandoning the run, lack of creativity in route combinations, sending receivers to the same spot. These problems seemed to get worse late in the season. They were relying on super human efforts by Josh and Diggs every week. That's not sustainable. Like i said, I don't like turnover in coaching, but you have to know when someone isn't working out. Consistency for the sake of consistency isn't smart either. There are 4 ex coordinators on staff so they don't have to go outside the org.

How you get there matters, no? Miami scored 31 on us last week. Does that mean their offense played well?

I'm not a, "this guy needs to be fired..." but Dorsey isn't the guy. A slow start with visible growth throughout the season would be one thing. But the offense regressed down the stretch. That's not a good sign and doesn't give hope that he'll get better next year.

If both of our lines had Diggs' fire, we win this game. I wish we had more like him.

Coach Washington has done nothing to develop the d line.

This d line has 4 1st rounders and 3 2nd rounders.