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Itd be relatively easy to project “top tier qb” in the 2020 offseason. At least to a ball park. His play will likely effect guarantees but outside drastic surprise it shouldn’t be crazy to put pencil estimates together.

3 weeks in usually isn’t where you finally move on the in house guy unless you got surprised by the process that doesn’t mean he isn’t the right guy but unlikely he was the guy at the top of their list the day the position opened.

Then they pay him less? a 6 year 33 mill isn’t insane in recent pay scales. It’s a matter of guaranteed dollars and he’ll have 2 years to base those arguments on

The biggest learning curve there is learning their own new teams scheme without full speed play. That they’ve been in a system together for years neutralizes some of the progress that you are noting as required. After 3-4 years at school a LB knows what read is required and what hole to hit based on the scheme. Tremaine, for instance, had to learn a new terminology, to call plays in a new scheme, without playing time. That’s the biggest thing in rookie mini camp. There’s some conditioning etc... but the practices are pretty soft and bama isn’t just tossing a weight bench in a field and telling guys to go nuts at this point.

So the difference between getting beat into submission by half time and having a successful 16 game season is rookie mini camp (come on, you reeeally wrote that as a meaningful thing???) and surviving training camp? Jonah Williams might go from winning 25 out of 30 to 26 out of 30 with camp etc.... it isn’t flipping him from a turnstile to brick wall with 18 practices in pads, 40 walk throughs, a new cafeteria, and a coach that was at bama 2 years ago anyway in Daboll. Ill agree that especially on special teams it’d be a challenge

The other thing that I think is getting lost in the conversation is that it’s a 28.5 point spread that started the debate. So “hang with some days” means stay within 4 touchdowns sometimes.

Weird to say most wouldn’t be walking by halftime but many will be completing 16 games with the following year and nearly all will be playing pro ball within about 2 years. theyd make more mistakes, and some wouldn’t be particularly competitive but any given year the best player on the field might be on the college team and they would have many nfl players. And to the guys pointing out they’d have busts too-well yea, those busts are the type of guys playing on the leagues worst team. The pro team would win. It wouldn’t be a slam dunk to be some massacre though.

You are arguing need/fit strategy and he’s doing BPA. Two different models and each have their place I think either can be impactful and getting the guy you think is best is huge. Both OL and the secondary are spots where you need to constantly be adding talent regardless of how pressing week 1 of the next season looks.

Fair. I dig the 15% chance but not banking on it

I don’t know that Reid, Payton, and ol bill are new school. I think it’s bad totally stuck in their way coaches that are failing

Honestly the assumption I went with is that this was a modern day equivalent player. So a guy like prime Adrian Peterson level impact dropped on the team.

Gotta be Bruce and juice for an option on either side of the ball.

It’s not super pricey (yes 5-600 but not thousands) or super fancy but I have a martenero that I like day to day. A few of them are over the top but they have some clean looks too. They used to let you customize a lot too. Its been a solid mechanical that I don’t have to be totally paranoid about messing up

When many examples are 9 months after their last college game is it that crazy? how much better is an nfl rookie team an elite cfb player in the national championship before entering the draft? What’s the differential in ability in that guy?

That’s kinda the thing, right? even this years bills could knock off a super bowl contender given enough shots. Bama in theory should be able to hang with a bad nfl team occasionally

Theres not much “sort of” 9m per would be 18th(?) paid left tackle. It’s below average and several of the cheaper are on rookie deals.

2 years 18m would be among the cheaper starting LTs not on a rookie deal

Foles put up 30 points total in 120 mins of playoff football this year. I think he’s proven to be very streaky and a bit limited.

Of all the issues with clay, he’s certainly a willing blocker

You need to “pass the test” everywhere but be great in a few spots. Scoring (offense everywhere) and a pass rush are where I opt. Put up points and hopefully steal a turnover occasionally

I don’t know why but it still surprises me that as they watch the eagles, rams, chiefs in the playoffs that some fans still think it’s a 5 year rebuild process in today’s nfl. The one I quoted was totally ruling out year 3 under McD and only maybe in year 4? If you believe that you need to be calling for heads.

If not next year, not happening with this regime. Second year with a hand chosen qb ridiculous cap space AND a high pick? I’m not saying the expectation is the Super Bowl but it shouldn’t end up seeming out of the realm of possibilities. You should be budgeting for playoff tickets at this crossroads

I could swear he did an interview where he seemed disappointed/frustrated about not getting a call from Buffalo once the deal expired

Crazy drive - with the penalties they had to put up about 180 yards

Looks like the rest the starters week 17 and bye week rust is off should be a heck of a second half. If brees and ginn get it together it could be a big day. Bree’s is what 1-5? 1-6? With a pick and a near pick throwing to him and left two tds on the table. It’s looked horrific though. Saints receivers and defenders other than Michael Thomas look completely lost looking for the ball really consistently.