NoSaint

It appears pretty clearly about last week. It was essentially an LA based crew with a former Ram/Falcon on it. Even if you aren’t one to think it biased, it shocks me that the nfl would be so obtuse as to allow these optics to exist in case they made a bad call favoring the rams.

Odds are you see 1-2 defensive scores next year. Probably not a kick return, but it’s possible.

Last offseason had zay running naked, Richie incognito, poyer, the McCoy drama and of course peterman named our week 1 starter while Mahomes started his march to the afccg. We opted to make moves to lead the league in dead money. We went backwards in the win loss column but write it off because our owners hired an unproven coach and left him with a lame duck GM until he could hand pick his own guy AFTER free agency and the draft. We better hope that our star qb that came with his draft night Twitter surprise works out or the legacy might not be as sterling as we hope.

You seem to think we’d really fill out the roster with the 6.5m on the line here eh?

If you trade to where the best player available is also a need - you can make some really good choices. its not that complicated.

Poor form on NRC with that Facebook video looking Hugh as a kite talking about laying TLL out

ultimately I’m curious why this needs to be “fixed” How much of a slam dunk should the super bowl be for teams with decent QBs and why do we need to widen the gap long term between the haves and have nots? Shouldnt hitting a high pick at the most important position give you a short term perk of great value?

One thing NRC did put to bed is the talk of turning PI into anything other than a spot foul. I’ve often read here that corners wouldn’t intentionally interfere in the situation... but heck, on the saints last three drives the final plays ended up with a blatant PI no call, the worst PI no call in years (and helmet to helmet on a defenseless receiver to boot) and I haven’t seen a replay of the interception since at the game but it sure looked like brees was hit high and Thomas held at the time. It’s hard to make plays in that setting.

When your two big third downs in the 4th quarter see receivers clobbered substantially before the ball gets there, it gets hard to make clutch plays or extend drives. They had plenty of bad habits on display but... it’s hard to make the big play in the big moment when you get tackled while the ball is 10 yards away.

Come on, it’s two different 4th quarter drives ending in absolute muggings. It’s hard to compare that impact to whether the play clock was a tenth of a second late or a borderline incidental face mask happened. I get your point but there were a few huuuge plays. The holding of ginn on 3rd and 7 was pretty aggressive too.

I heard billboards started showing up in Atlanta late today?

Flip side- Tommy lee Lewis needed to sprint to the refs demanding the call. They needed to know in the moment this was a big thing.

You still have a fantastic qb after, and if you nail a draft or two you can have a Michael Thomas and Kamara and... on rookie deals far below market. but yes, having a an on one of those deals is the biggest savings possible and gives you a shot at the best 52 around him he will ever have. The past 10 years simply hasn’t seen many franchise qbs come out. If Blake bortles was a great qb they’d be fine still but likely have a ring or two to boot. That he’s terrible and still came close says a ton about what that big discount does. A cheap qb is akin to like 2-3 other all pros on rookie deals as far as impact on capology

Some of y’all may recall my frustration with the nfl last season after the Atlanta-NOLA Thursday night game where the former falcons player turned official made some pretty bold calls down the stretch. Oh, yea, that dude was on the crew again today and his other team was the rams. It it still shocks me that former players can ref their own teams games.

It was several times on the no PI calls which is fine going evenly but that was horrific

Hell of a kick. Not a great look on the rams side sprinting to the saints sideline to mock them after THAT finish

I’ve heard of let em play but..... that?!!’

Itd be relatively easy to project “top tier qb” in the 2020 offseason. At least to a ball park. His play will likely effect guarantees but outside drastic surprise it shouldn’t be crazy to put pencil estimates together.

Itd be relatively easy to project “top tier qb” in the 2020 offseason. At least to a ball park. His play will likely effect guarantees but outside drastic surprise it shouldn’t be crazy to put pencil estimates together.

3 weeks in usually isn’t where you finally move on the in house guy unless you got surprised by the process that doesn’t mean he isn’t the right guy but unlikely he was the guy at the top of their list the day the position opened.

Then they pay him less? a 6 year 33 mill isn’t insane in recent pay scales. It’s a matter of guaranteed dollars and he’ll have 2 years to base those arguments on

The biggest learning curve there is learning their own new teams scheme without full speed play. That they’ve been in a system together for years neutralizes some of the progress that you are noting as required. After 3-4 years at school a LB knows what read is required and what hole to hit based on the scheme. Tremaine, for instance, had to learn a new terminology, to call plays in a new scheme, without playing time. That’s the biggest thing in rookie mini camp. There’s some conditioning etc... but the practices are pretty soft and bama isn’t just tossing a weight bench in a field and telling guys to go nuts at this point.

So the difference between getting beat into submission by half time and having a successful 16 game season is rookie mini camp (come on, you reeeally wrote that as a meaningful thing???) and surviving training camp? Jonah Williams might go from winning 25 out of 30 to 26 out of 30 with camp etc.... it isn’t flipping him from a turnstile to brick wall with 18 practices in pads, 40 walk throughs, a new cafeteria, and a coach that was at bama 2 years ago anyway in Daboll. Ill agree that especially on special teams it’d be a challenge

The other thing that I think is getting lost in the conversation is that it’s a 28.5 point spread that started the debate. So “hang with some days” means stay within 4 touchdowns sometimes.

Weird to say most wouldn’t be walking by halftime but many will be completing 16 games with the following year and nearly all will be playing pro ball within about 2 years. theyd make more mistakes, and some wouldn’t be particularly competitive but any given year the best player on the field might be on the college team and they would have many nfl players. And to the guys pointing out they’d have busts too-well yea, those busts are the type of guys playing on the leagues worst team. The pro team would win. It wouldn’t be a slam dunk to be some massacre though.