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Maybe I'm naive but I thought Josh was talking about turf and Pat was talking about something else. Though I do think Josh was entirely aware of the double entendre from the beginning.

Kevyn Adams need some extra help? 🤔

I watched Patriots game, they were awful, sloppy and undisciplined. I thought Vrabel was going to fix all that? Maye looked completely uncomfortable in McDaniels’ offense. As for Atlanta, they benched Penix in the fourth quarter and their pass rush disappeared.

Ya it's hard to dispute that. But the overall root of what I'm saying is this is the offence McDermott/Beane wants. He doesn't want a 30 million dollar receiver and to throw it 40 times a game. He wants to play clock control, limit mistakes and grind you out . Which I personally disagree with that philosophy, when Josh Allen is your QB

I for one always complained about our soft zone defense and how good teams pick us apart in it. Then I watch the last couple of games and get even more concerned how our DB’s get torched in man. Unless we can come up with a consistent pressure on quarterbacks we are in for a long ride.

Well played

It doesn't help Dabol that Daniel Jones is looking like a pro bowler for the undefeated Colts.

People keep mixing this up. Hyde was loved as a signing. The Bills in Rex's last year in 2016 had major issues at safety and Hyde was one of (if not the biggest) safety contracts signed that off-season. Poyer was on the other hand a relative unknown given a fairly sizable deal for a player with his relative inexperience and people (myself included) were like who the hell is this guy and why is he getting a a 4 year deal for over 3 million a year with 7.6 million in guarantees? I was very happy to be wrong on that one, McD knew what he had in Po. Hyde however, was on many people's "wish lists" going into that off-season given the major need at safety.

I agree that, despite most of the Ravens' game, and some against the squished Thursday, they seem to be a better defense. I don't think the concerns are dumb, but think it is definitely a glass is half empty take, and for some, the last drops in the glass. That seems to contradict what we have seen, and know, overall. And the fact that they had a bunch of players not playing Thursday, who hopefully will be there in December, and young players ascending, learning, I believe there will be a 'consensus' that this defense in much improved by that time. It doesn't have to be a great defense, or even very good, by the end of the year--just good. And consistently improving. I think that will be enough to beat the Chargers, Ravens, Broncos...Eagles, Rams..?

in situations like this, the only answer (as it almost always is) is to root for miami to lose.

It wasn't the INTs that bothered me about the offense previously. It was as soon as we didn't have peak Diggs within it the boom and bust nature became very much more bust. We'd have whole quarters, even halves of football in the first half of that 2023 season where we couldn't get first downs, sustain drives or score points. I would love to go back to 2021 playoff offense. But you can't do that with this cast of skill position players. It would be doomed to fail. Even with Josh Allen.

You know there was a 3 million man march in London. Largest march in the history of that country. Down playing it lol. I mean come on dude. Not sure. Who paid for the riots?

Yes

The timing of events doesn’t support this. Carr made his threats on Benny Shyster’s show. Then the affiliates capitulated and finally ABC did. your theory would require this sequence of events to be coincidental

The fans were thrilled when we signed Micah Hyde. It was Jordan Poyer that fans were underwhelmed with.

Great story. Glad he is a Bill.

I agree the defense has been Ok the last two weeks. Moreover, there is every reason to suspect--assuming no catastrophic injuries-- that the D will continue to improve. First, the young guys will get better with experience and experience in the system. Hecht and Ogunjobi will join after three more games. And then there is Hairston. Add all that together and by December the defense should be performing at a solid B+ level, which should be more than good enough to complement this offense. But until they do it, they have not done it, and fans with PTSD from this defense in the past will be on edge.

We may need to set up a GoFundMe fundraiser.

I didn’t watch but if you are giving a republican credit for anything, then it must be so. Good to hear.

I think there will be improvement. I don't expect the defense to vault into the best in the league.

They just lost their starting RB, Najee Harris to an achilles injury, possibly for the rest of the season. That's a big loss under a Jim Harbough offense.

I will give you the optimistic and pessimistic case. Optimistic Case The Bills currently are missing possibly 5 key players on defense in the early going. The PED Twins are still suspended, Mad Max the teams first round pick is currently hurt, and two key starters in Milano and Ed have week to week injuries. The defense has thus far been OK overall (gashed by the Ravens, shut down the Jets, and did OK against the Fins) will be adding more talent. You could also argue that the team is pacing its self defensively saving its best for the playoffs. The final component would be that you could also make an optimistic case is that the Bills if there are still defensive issues could add a piece at DT or safety if needed at the trade deadline. Not necessarily a major piece put if the Bills need a Rasul Douglas capable starter added I think that could happen. Pessimistic Case McD just hasn't had much success against quality offenses esp in the playoffs. The Bills shut down a bad Jets offense and then got handled by the Ravens and very easily could have given up 24-28 against a depleted Fins team. The early returns are far from good. Yes there are reinforcements coming but some of these aren't that inspiring. A rookie CB who while drafted fairly high up is still an unknown and two veteran D-line players who while decent aren't game changers. Milano and Ed coming back should help but Milano is older and having an injury early isn't a good sign. Ed is very good and capable of being a game wrecker but not consistently. So while there's help coming how much is that help going to really make an impact. The defense needs a big time impact player not more solid starters. My case is that I lean more towards the optimistic side of things. I do think Hoecht and Mad Max will help a lot as will Milano and Ed. Larry O could too, certainly won't hurt to see what he has. I also think if they do need some help at DT or safety they can find an addition at the trade deadline that will help even if they aren't a high end impact starter. I think the defense is and will be much better than last season but there is concern as to how it can hold up against elite offense esp in the playoffs.

As far as safety goes, I actually think Bishop has been better the last two games. Still has a ways to go, for sure. But he's been a bit better. Rapp is the one that concerns me. With everyone focused on how bad they thought Hamlin was and now Bishop, Rapp has kind of gotten a free pass and flown under the radar. But, he has not been good at all. He's a liability not only for the occasional wreck less hits in teammates he is famous for, but he's just not good enough in coverage. My prediction now by the end of the year (barring injuries) Bishop will grade out better than Rapp. Not sure if Mad Max gets a starting job when he comes back unless there is injury ahead of him, but he will at minimum upgrade the CB3 slot until then. I do think if he gets pressed into start for a few games it will be hard to take that kind of athletic ability off the field. He could easily "Wally Pip" White. Once Oliver comes back it's going to help out. Jones has been sneaky solid this year. I saw somewhere Groot has (yet another) lower leg injury. Story of his career. Through the first 3 games this year Bosa is having a Pro Bowl (if not All Pro) season. Add the PED guys to the mix and I think we are in good shape. Linebacker. We will see if Milano comes back. Even if he does, I'm not sold on him being the starter. Maybe keep him for specific down and distances. But even with all that, I don't see this defense being out in position to succeed week in and week out. The play calling on that side of the ball is too passive especially on third downs. Let me also say regarding Babich. I think he is an EXCELLENT coach. I just don't think he's a great play caller. It's one thing to know how to teach the X's and O's (and he seems like an excellent teacher) but it's an entirely other beast being the play caller.

I don't personally think he does, just based on what we know about him, but it also wouldn't surprise me either if he did, nor would I care either way. But I used to own a dispensary in Hollywood (shut it down in 2016 when the laws changed), and I can say first hand a lot of NFL players use it in the offseason. I had a lot of guys from teams all over the country who lived in CA during the offseason, or were retired and living in CA, who used to come in - including some of the highest paid in the game who played in and won Super Bowls. I will say many of the active players did not smoke it though, they didn't want to smoke anything as highly tuned athletes and preferred tinctures, edibles, etc. Retired players were more willing to smoke it even though I had some that still preferred not to.

It has, but at the expense of some players over the years. I'd much prefer the week off and the road through Buffalo. Doesn't guarantee anything but maximises our chances.