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Do The Bills Have A Passing Game Problem?
Trogdor replied to BillsFan130's topic in The Stadium Wall
Let's see how that looks against playoff defense. It's cool to average high in the regular season, but they need the ability to have open guys in the playoffs. -
I'll start with the last bolded statement first. Yes, I totally agree, when the Miami CB went out, the guy replacing him was out on an island to the left. I thought for sure that Brady and Allen would attack that corner with a pass, rather than run Jimbo for like 2 yards. Agreed...missed opportunity there. That whole sequence from the refs giving Hill the first down (and the Bills not challenging it), to the two really bad Bills red zone plays and then missed kick by Prater, and then the Dolphins next TD where it looked like Tre just conceded the TD, was all very strange and changed the game from a total blowout to a tight-ish game. Just weird. But again, I agree, the Bills should have put this game away in the second quarter. It was just a really strange series of events. To the other bolded statement, yes, the Miami receivers are fast, and Tyreek is still a great player, so I wouldn't be surprised if their separation is better on a more consistent basis. But I don't think you can make the inference you did above regarding our D-line (sacks) or receivers (separation) tonight. Tua was getting the ball out of his hands in 3 seconds or less. The majority of his passes (it was 11 passes at one point, not sure if that was the final tally) were behind the line of scrimmage tonight (screens, etc). So, they had very few longer developing plays that would involve a pass rush or even needing to get separation. And I think there are a few things going on with the vertical game. One, we are a much more overall efficient offense than we used to be, with a HC and OC that want a balanced attack. So, we run the ball a lot more than we used to (and throw to the backs out of the backfield). Our TEs have become a big part of our game, and though we have seen Kincaid get vertical (and Hawes too now), generally the TE game will not be that far downfield. And the league has changed since 2020-2021. Defenses learned to slow down pass-happy offenses like the Bills and Chiefs with cover zero, etc. Keep everything in front of you. That is how teams play the Bills now. So, we started taking the underneath stuff and just methodically marching down the field (kind of like the old New England offense---game plan to your opponent and take what the defense gives you without making any mistakes). Not as sexy, but effective. So, being opponent-specific, why would we want to throw a lot of deep balls against the Jets or the Dolphins? They are lower percentage plays with a higher percentage for a turnover. Our coaches knew we could out-muscle these teams and let them make the mistakes (which they did). We are a different team than we were in 2020-2022. We aren't pass first, pass often. We are balanced and disciplined. I just think we need to be patient at this point. When they need to pass or if a defense say focuses on the run and leaves things open downfield, I'm sure the Bills will attack that. I just don't think we have run that many routes downfield yet because we haven't really needed to in these last two games. If we had been attempting a downfield game and we weren't being successful, then I might worry, we just haven't needed to do it much yet. Doesn't mean we can't, we just haven't needed to. I mean we all love seeing bombs down the field, but if they aren't really needed in a particular game, why chance them. I don't feel like I've seen Josh really trying to push the ball downfield a lot but not being able to (a few plays maybe). He's usually hitting something over the middle, at the sticks, or underneath. Plus, we have seen Shakir and Coleman catch deep balls before. We know Coleman is good at 50/50 balls and high-pointing the ball. We have some speed: Samuel 4.31, Moore 4.35, Shakir 4.43. So, it basically comes down to some worry that we don't have speed on the outside (Coleman and Palmer), that true #1 X receiver once again. Maybe, but let's worry about that when we see it not working, not when we are choosing not to do it for obvious reasons. Coleman had that one drop tonight, but has anyone really been upset at how Coleman and Palmer have played thus far? In the Baltimore game, they combined for 13 receptions for 173 yards and a TD. Josh threw 7 passes in that game over 20 yards (26, 22, 51, 21, 29, 32, 25, plus the deep ball to Palmer that drew the pass interference call). And Josh has a ton of other weapons as well...he's hitting 9 different guys per game. I really don't think we have anything to worry about.
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9/18/25 GAMEDAY Bills vs Dolphins Post Game Thread TNF
BritBill replied to BuffaloBill's topic in The Stadium Wall
Woke up. Saw the score. Smiled. Had breakfast. Now work. Enjoy your stress free weekend, Bills fans. -
I think it's more of a numbers game right now. If there's an injury to Nickel or Safety, then he'll be in. But with everyone healthy there and the guys they have in for depth being core Special Teamers and him not being that - I don't know that there's a spot for him on the GameDay 48, even if he is healthy and had more time to practice.
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ANTIFA: Designated Terrorist Organization
gobills404 replied to BillsFanNC's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
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That was your total price $3,200? I had Otiicons for a few weeks, Audiologist place screwed up the insurance and then me when they wanted me to pay the insurance balance. I turned them in instead
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9/18/25 GAMEDAY Bills vs Dolphins Post Game Thread TNF
BobbyC81 replied to BuffaloBill's topic in The Stadium Wall
The offense was clicking in the first half. -
But also a pretty good front four
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Tyson knocked out Foreman in the 2nd round?
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Buffalo Sabres and the NHL: 2025 - 2026
Mike in Horseheads replied to Draconator's topic in Off the Wall
I don't get why people why people that like to trash the Sabres and the owner bother being here smh -
But that was a weak call.
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Holy crap, I'm finally coming to Buffalo! 53 years in the making
Hellcamino replied to Hellcamino's topic in The Stadium Wall
Wow! What a day! Game was a little spicier than we had hoped but we won so thats Ok! Hammers Lot was fun! Condiment ceremony was pretty wild. the old stadium was everything I imagined it would be and to be honest, a little nicer than I expected. Many people here have had so many complaints about it over the years, I expected it to be very “rustic” It actually felt pretty modern. Although WTF is up with the sound system? You couldn’t hear anything announced or played on scoreboard at all. And when music was played it had a ridiculously loud slap back echo. I’m an audio engineer so It really bugged me. Lol is that normal here? -
9/18/25 GAMEDAY Bills vs Dolphins Post Game Thread TNF
reddogblitz replied to BuffaloBill's topic in The Stadium Wall
Great win! One thing I was glad to see was no Josh designed runs and no brotherly shoves. Hopefully this continues. -
Yes. But not because of WR issues. More because of pass rush issues. Which we finally made a serious move about this last offseason.
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Do The Bills Have A Passing Game Problem?
BananaB replied to BillsFan130's topic in The Stadium Wall
Dolphins D is terrible, that 31 points looked like a struggle because it seems like a plan to only throw short routes with the occasional intermediate one. Obviously it’s on tape and other teams pickup on it, just makes their job easier. Probably why our WRs look like they get no separation. -
People in mass have cut through the quick edits of videos and name calling that the left repeatedly use to demonize everyone they disagree with. We have common sense enough to not believe the idiotic narrative they tryed to push on what made the killer commit the act. Its beyond worn out tactics at this point with same suspects and outlets. over and over and over. He was just a guy who was peacefully expressing his opinions and was murdered for them. the fact you dont understand is not suprising but it isnt sitting well with rational people. He was meaningful for many for his speech but more meaningful in the fact that everyone is sick and tired this s#!t.
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I was referring to the desperate 50 yard heaves into triple coverage that we started to see all too often under Dorsey, not the occasional risky throw to sustain a drive. As for your other point, how often have we lost playing said efficient, turnover free football since Brady took over? I mean, we've lost like 4 regular season games (not counting the finale) in nearly 1.5 years. I wouldn't say any of them were because our offense was too conservative.
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It was more like 148, but three game avg is 250+
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9/18/25 GAMEDAY Bills vs Dolphins Post Game Thread TNF
Stads replied to BuffaloBill's topic in The Stadium Wall
I didn't stay up for McDermott's presser. Did anyone ask about the missed challenge on the Dolphins' first drive? -
Week 3, Fish v. Bills, GAME BALLS!
ticketssince61 replied to Freddie's Dead's topic in The Stadium Wall
I agree that it could have cost us the game. In that situation, especially on a run, you have to do everything to ensure you don't even come close to a hold -
9/18/25 GAMEDAY Bills vs Dolphins Post Game Thread TNF
Harold Jackson replied to BuffaloBill's topic in The Stadium Wall
Giants 11-4 lifetime and 7-0 in New York vs KC. And Giants bloomed good vs Dallas. -
I think this is a big game for the TE’s
Richard Noggin replied to Billsfed1's topic in The Stadium Wall
I've seen the future!