Lurker Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 6. The Buffalo Bills didn't address their need for a tackle after trading left tackle Jason Peters to Philadelphia. This makes you wonder whether the Bills are waiting for the Cincinnati Bengals to cut left tackle Levi Jones. The Bengals will trade or cut Jones because they selected Andre Smith in the first round. Meanwhile, the Bills picked Eric Wood in the first round. Buffalo plans to play him at guard but could use him at center because it drafted guard Andy Levitre in the second round. Jones could offer an option at left tackle that might allow Langston Walker to move back to right tackle. Jones remains on the Bengals' roster, but not for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Has Levi Jones' play fallen off so much he's not even worth keeping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Git 'r done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Wow, this could be huge. Outside of OT, and who knows how much of a need that really is, I like the way the Bills are looking so far. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to add another LB or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Has Levi Jones' play fallen off so much he's not even worth keeping? They probably just don't want to pay him. He's not super expensive, 3-5 mil per year for the next 4 years. But he has definitely deteriorated. They also have a cheap guy they like who could play RT while Andre Smith starts at LT. I can't say I honestly know whether he is still a solid LT but I would definitely take a look. If he could play a stopgap role for two years while Bell develops and allowing us to keep Walker at RT that would be a huge addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Had knee and Back problems - what is his health status Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan74 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 If we could get 2 or 3 years out of him until Bell is ready that would be a good deal for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billhard Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 If we could get 2 or 3 years out of him until Bell is ready that would be a good deal for the Bills. It is a money thing. Another question why are papers/magazines alleged experts coming out with grades already. It is so crazy. They don't mean a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Wow, this could be huge. Outside of OT, and who knows how much of a need that really is, I like the way the Bills are looking so far. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to add another LB or two. Bills should look at getting Jones. If it does not cost anything substantial I think they should pull the trigger. Even if Jones play has fallen off a little bit he could be good for a year or two as a stop gap to give bell some time to develop. Adding a good vet at LB is a no brainier since there are some out there and there might be some cut in June. either way the bills roster could use some tweaks even after a solid draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBlood Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Adding Levi would be huuuuuuuuggggggeeeeeee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInSouthBuffalo Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Better than camp fodder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 We would need to sign Levi AFTER he is cut. If i recall, he got a gigantic top 5 deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Adding Levi would be huuuuuuuuggggggeeeeeee! OMG, this would be amazing. The Peters' trade would be for Jones, Wood, and Nelson. I'd love that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 We would need to sign Levi AFTER he is cut. If i recall, he got a gigantic top 5 deal. He did but it's pretty cheap now. 3 mil this year. 3.75 next. 4 something the third and 5 the 4th. His first two years of the $40 million dollar deal he got about 20 mil I think. Those may be a little off, but they're close. It would almost be better to trade for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloaggie Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 They probably just don't want to pay him. He's not super expensive, 3-5 mil per year for the next 4 years. But he has definitely deteriorated. They also have a cheap guy they like who could play RT while Andre Smith starts at LT. I can't say I honestly know whether he is still a solid LT but I would definitely take a look. If he could play a stopgap role for two years while Bell develops and allowing us to keep Walker at RT that would be a huge addition. I'd find it hard to believe that the Bills plan was to wait until the Bengals cut Jones, and then sign him. If the Bengals do cut him, for sure we should sign him because we're now desparate. I like the Bills draft, but I can't help but think it was a failure because we did not address our Offensive Tackle need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 27, 2009 Author Share Posted April 27, 2009 Smoke or fire? "If the Bengals were able to draft any of the four top offensive tackle prospects, Jones could be traded or released." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites Bay Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I'm not lazy, just incompetent. I just Googled "Levi Jones Draft Status" and got 7,000,000 entries covering everything from offensive tackles to denim jeans in the military. When was this guy drafted, and where was he slotted? As I recall, he was all-that-and-a-bag-of-chips at the time, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Has Levi Jones' play fallen off so much he's not even worth keeping? no, he is still good, just getting old, and maybe the Bengals think not worth the big contract they gave him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I'd find it hard to believe that the Bills plan was to wait until the Bengals cut Jones, and then sign him. If the Bengals do cut him, for sure we should sign him because we're now desparate. I like the Bills draft, but I can't help but think it was a failure because we did not address our Offensive Tackle need. I agree, there's no way Buffalo knew Cincinnati was definitely going OT at 6. I wouldn't mind the acquisition of L. Jones, because Bell isn't ready to play RT, Chambers is a swing OT, and frankly Butler isn't an OT in the NFL. Some will assail this, but it'd be a mismatch if any of them played long term at OT. And it's just wrong to say Walker can play LT long term. I really don't think there was an OT after A. Smith who would come in and start from Day 1. Neither Britton nor Beatty are the types I want playing LT against many teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gale Gilbert Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I'm not lazy, just incompetent. I just Googled "Levi Jones Draft Status" and got 7,000,000 entries covering everything from offensive tackles to denim jeans in the military. When was this guy drafted, and where was he slotted? As I recall, he was all-that-and-a-bag-of-chips at the time, right? Drafted in 2002. Has dealt with injuries over the last few seasons. A downgrade from Peters, I think, but an upgrade over what they currently have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBills Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 2002 NFL Draft - Round: 1 - Pick: 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I'm not lazy, just incompetent. I just Googled "Levi Jones Draft Status" and got 7,000,000 entries covering everything from offensive tackles to denim jeans in the military. When was this guy drafted, and where was he slotted? As I recall, he was all-that-and-a-bag-of-chips at the time, right? Seriously? MISSION FAIL Levi Jones was the 10th overall pick in the '02 draft. He was considered a definite reach that day, considered to be a serious drop off after Williams and McKinnie. But he proved he was just as good as McKinnie, and obviously better than Williams. He's had a solid career with Cincy, but the injury bug has caught up to him as of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I'd find it hard to believe that the Bills plan was to wait until the Bengals cut Jones, and then sign him. If the Bengals do cut him, for sure we should sign him because we're now desparate. I like the Bills draft, but I can't help but think it was a failure because we did not address our Offensive Tackle need. The already have Walker or chambers to fill the tackle spots on the line, so OT isn't a huge need, Guard and depth at C (since they are high on Hangartner as the centre) were bigger needs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proteus Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 The already have Walker or chambers to fill the tackle spots on the line, so OT isn't a huge need, Guard and depth at C (since they are high on Hangartner as the centre) were bigger needs Levi Jones when healthy is a pro bowl caliber player. He is better then any offensive lineman we have and if added would be a huge addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Holy sh--, i got this guy confused with Levi Brown.... hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites Bay Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Seriously? MISSION FAIL Levi Jones was the 10th overall pick in the '02 draft. He was considered a definite reach that day, considered to be a serious drop off after Williams and McKinnie. But he proved he was just as good as McKinnie, and obviously better than Williams. He's had a solid career with Cincy, but the injury bug has caught up to him as of late. Steady now, McLovin'. I said that I thought he was all-that-and-a-bag-of-chips. I just couldn't remember how stale the chips were. Same draft as Williams? That's probably when I was wishing we'd drafted him. For good reason. Cincy got more miles out of him than we got out of Williams. Wouldn't that be something? It would be worth taking a shot at him for a couple of years. Hope the injuries aren't too serious, like musculoskeletal (ligamenture) stuff. That has a way of nagging for.....decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsville Bills Fan Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 6. The Buffalo Bills didn't address their need for a tackle after trading left tackle Jason Peters to Philadelphia. This makes you wonder whether the Bills are waiting for the Cincinnati Bengals to cut left tackle Levi Jones. The Bengals will trade or cut Jones because they selected Andre Smith in the first round. Meanwhile, the Bills picked Eric Wood in the first round. Buffalo plans to play him at guard but could use him at center because it drafted guard Andy Levitre in the second round. Jones could offer an option at left tackle that might allow Langston Walker to move back to right tackle. Jones remains on the Bengals' roster, but not for long. If we.... Could trade for: Henderson & Levi Jones (Mort this AM) Sign: D. Brooks or L. Hill (LB) I'll start thinking about home games in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 6. The Buffalo Bills didn't address their need for a tackle after trading left tackle Jason Peters to Philadelphia. This makes you wonder whether the Bills are waiting for the Cincinnati Bengals to cut left tackle Levi Jones. The Bengals will trade or cut Jones because they selected Andre Smith in the first round. Meanwhile, the Bills picked Eric Wood in the first round. Buffalo plans to play him at guard but could use him at center because it drafted guard Andy Levitre in the second round. Jones could offer an option at left tackle that might allow Langston Walker to move back to right tackle. Jones remains on the Bengals' roster, but not for long. Jones has a bum knee. And has become a whiner. So I suppose they might axe him to save some $. However, they did cut OT Kirk Barton on Friday, who they picked up the last week of '08. He was scooped up by DET on the waiver wire. If Andrew Whitworth comes back from his injury (bad high ankle sprain), I guess they'd move him back to LT, with Nate Livings at LG, Bobbie Williams at RG, and last years' #4 Anthony Collins at RT. Center is a question for them. Have to wait and see if/when Smith gets any starts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Jones has a bum knee. And has become a whiner. So I suppose they might axe him to save some $. However, they did cut OT Kirk Barton on Friday, who they picked up the last week of '08. He was scooped up by DET on the waiver wire. If Andrew Whitworth comes back from his injury (bad high ankle sprain), I guess they'd move him back to LT, with Nate Livings at LG, Bobbie Williams at RG, and last years' #4 Anthony Collins at RT. Center is a question for them. Have to wait and see if/when Smith gets any starts... Hey thanks stuckincincy, I was hoping that you would give your input, I know you follow this team closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 It is a money thing. Another question why are papers/magazines alleged experts coming out with grades already. It is so crazy. They don't mean a thing. The grades you see now are merely based on perceived value of the draft and how they filled needs. Bills should look at getting Jones. If it does not cost anything substantial I think they should pull the trigger. Even if Jones play has fallen off a little bit he could be good for a year or two as a stop gap to give bell some time to develop. Adding a good vet at LB is a no brainier since there are some out there and there might be some cut in June. either way the bills roster could use some tweaks even after a solid draft. At the very least he's very good depth. Holy sh--, i got this guy confused with Levi Brown.... hahaha I thought I owned a pair of his jeans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit of '66 Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Drafted in 2002. Has dealt with injuries over the last few seasons. A downgrade from Peters, I think, but an upgrade over what they currently have. I'll second that. Jones was a first rounder. Has been slowed by injuries alot. He was replaced by some raw talents last year. Bengals really blew it by opting to pay Jones instead of Eric Steinbach (CLE) in a money decision two years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 no, he is still good, just getting old, and maybe the Bengals think not worth the big contract they gave him... 29 is old? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeJuiceSimpson Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I think we have a good shot at signing him or another vet OT. I got crucified for saying we wouldn't pick an OT in the draft an this was the reason why I thought we wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 29 is old? !@#$- I am ancient then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I am pretty sure that his SERIOUS rash of injuries have hampered his career, and is the reason they desperately needed to draft a tackle in the first place. At this point (at the end of his career) we've got better guys with more upside. Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Holy sh--, i got this guy confused with Levi Brown.... hahaha levi sells cartoon ballons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 !@#$- I am ancient then! hehe--I have T-shirts older than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 hehe--I have T-shirts older than that! So do I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cody Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I agree, there's no way Buffalo knew Cincinnati was definitely going OT at 6. I really don't think there was an OT after A. Smith who would come in and start from Day 1. Maybe Buffalo knew A.Smith was either going to go to Cincinnati or be available at 11. LT plan A - draft A. Smith @ 11 LT plan B - pick up L.Jones after Cincinnati cuts him due to drafting A.Smith @ 11 LT plan C - turn Bell into the 2nd coming of J.Peters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadstroke Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I agree, there's no way Buffalo knew Cincinnati was definitely going OT at 6. I wouldn't mind the acquisition of L. Jones, because Bell isn't ready to play RT, Chambers is a swing OT, and frankly Butler isn't an OT in the NFL. Some will assail this, but it'd be a mismatch if any of them played long term at OT. And it's just wrong to say Walker can play LT long term. I really don't think there was an OT after A. Smith who would come in and start from Day 1. Neither Britton nor Beatty are the types I want playing LT against many teams. Your OL evaluations are a reach, Vet. Bell MAY be ready, we don't know that yet, Chambers, so, so, Butler has OT experience and good size for the position and very well may be ready to play the position, and Walker... maybe we'll soon find out, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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