Cosell's Comments on the Bills

[GoBills808]

7 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Ravens too

 

Steelers as well

Ravens for sure

[FireChans]

10 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Ravens for sure

We are just moments away from someone earnestly arguing that losing a couple rotational DL players and rookies is worse than losing your starting QB. I can feel it.

[GunnerBill]

4 hours ago, FireChans said:

Ravens too

 

Steelers as well

 

Ravens don't have a worse injury situation right now. Madubuike is done for the year but otherwise everyone is back now and they are as healthy as they have been all season. But the first 8 weeks were rough for them. Not just Lamar but multiple other starters were down.

[jethro_tull]

On 12/11/2025 at 12:25 PM, newcam2012 said:

Just listened to Greg Cossell in the Colin Cowherd show. He was asked about what he thought about the Bills. I think this guy really knows his football.

 

Here's what he basically said. Not a great listen as a Bills fan. They aren't one of the most talented teams in the league, they aren't that good overall from a talent perspective, they lack  play makers on both sides of the ball, very poor WR core and Kalir is more of a WR3, , have to scheme up offense, and rely on Josh being Superman which is hard to be sustainable and win like that. 

 

I know it's just one guys opinion but this guy really knows his football. Doesn't mean the Bills can't win it all. Nevertheless, this was pretty eye opening and deflating. What do you think? 

I think most of us already realized the team- except the offense has James Cook who is a legit superstar playmaker, and the defense has some emerging playmakers like Benford, Bosa, Bishop, Hairston, Thompson.  Of course Oliver and Milano are consistent playmakers when healthy. 

In other words, while I like much of how Cosell rates players and knows schemes he is a bit weak on this one and actually who cares- because we know this team is capable of winning it.  

Edited yesterday at 01:01 PM by jethro_tull

[nuklz2594]

make him the new gm

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

22 minutes ago, nuklz2594 said:

make him the new gm

You talking Bills, or are you talking Sabres? 🤔

[SirAndrew]

This roster is very flawed but I think people including the experts are becoming a bit melodramatic. We lack a playmaking wideout on the outside, and the defense has a lot of holes. I think the biggest issue is defense. We haven’t drafted well and start guys who should be backups. The offense has a good line, elite running backs, and two good tight ends. Maybe I’m missing something, but every NFL team has a lot of holes these days. That being said, our draft choices haven’t been great, especially the defense. 

Edited yesterday at 02:25 PM by SirAndrew

[nuklz2594]

29 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

You talking Bills, or are you talking Sabres? 🤔

at this point both...what the worst that can happen?

[HOUSE]

This is why I never listen to the guy.

You guys have fun

 

 

[Nihilarian]

On 12/12/2025 at 12:03 PM, Nihilarian said:

I don't buy it. This team has enough good players on it to beat any other NFL team, "IF" everyone is healthy. The problem is and has been all season, the injuries with something like 38 players being injured over the course of this season. Yes, all teams have injuries, and the difference is that this team keeps winning.

 

Josh Allen doesn't need to be Superman every game as the Bills have the #1 rushing team in the NFL and are currently #5 in points, #2 in yards. The defense is 14th in points allowed and #10 in yards allowed, and if you hadn't noticed, they are shutting down teams in the second half. The run defense has improved with Shaq Thompson starting. 

 

The New England Patriots just started getting hit with the injury bug, and because they played a 4th-place schedule is the reason as to why they are leading the division.

 

Hopefully, this team gets healthy going forward and keeps winning in the snow/cold. 

    As I said, any team! Even though not everyone is healthy!!! 

[Beck Water]

On 12/13/2025 at 11:37 PM, GoBills808 said:

Chargers

Colts

Bengals

 

My ask was, how does the Bills injury situation (a difference maker on D and a hoped-for D difference maker, plus another D starter on IR) compare to other teams that have managed to be in contention for playoffs.  To me that means leading the division or in position for a WC.

Chargers are contending.  I don't follow them that closely.  What starters or game changers they got on the IR or multi weeks on the injury report?

 

Bengals are out.  Colts - they're 3rd in their division, 2 games back, and also 2 games back from the 2 current wild card contenders.  They're not mathematically eliminated but unless they run the tables for Rivers here on out, doesn't look good.

I got to acknowledge the Ravens. At 7-7  I don't think of them as contending for the playoffs, but Dang!  if the Dolphins surprise the Steelers they're right there.
They're almost OK now with only Madubuike on IR, but they had it pretty bad with the injury report for a stretch there.  Worse than the Bills for reals.  I grant that.

 

 

[Búfalo Blanco]

On 12/11/2025 at 5:11 PM, NoSaint said:

 

Candidly, some good players but devils advocate- 

 

Cook is a very very good player at perhaps the most devalued position in the league and comes off the field in many of the biggest moments. I think he’s electric but you’d trade him for JJ or Chase in a heartbeat at wr

 

oliver has good games but is not a truly elite DT. A good one but certainly not telling your kids you got to see him play. It’s possible to fill a top ten list at the position without him.
 

Benford is the closest to an elite player at a premium position but started the year cold. 
 

Kincaid is tied for 93rd in receptions currently. 
 

I’ll add bosa has potential for your list too…

 

but the theme would be getting these guys healthy and at their ceiling for a month straight and as much as I’m glad they are on our team that is still a hard bet to make. 

After this game (and others) I don’t see WHY Cook is considered anywhere below elite, or nearly that… dude is a Chris Johnson clone with the right blocking each week. And I know you’re just playing devils advocate…

 

Kincaid and Bosa are.the other 2…  Benford and Oliver would be close to elite, with complementary parts at the right moments in the season.. if the DL could just click..

 

I don’t think this team is far off.. but with injuries and depth issues at specific positions, it’s a “Josh Allen” show as usual… not as far as we Bills cynics think though?

 

[billsfan89]

18 hours ago, SirAndrew said:

This roster is very flawed but I think people including the experts are becoming a bit melodramatic. We lack a playmaking wideout on the outside, and the defense has a lot of holes. I think the biggest issue is defense. We haven’t drafted well and start guys who should be backups. The offense has a good line, elite running backs, and two good tight ends. Maybe I’m missing something, but every NFL team has a lot of holes these days. That being said, our draft choices haven’t been great, especially the defense. 

I think the issue is that the WR situation should be better or there should be 1-2 more difference makers on defense. But to act like this team is the 2007 Cavs being carried by one superstar player is insanely dramatic.

 

 

[RichRiderBills]

I just can't believe cosell's comments. The guy should really just not be welcomed back at one Bill's live. He's terrible. 

 

I get being honest but it's just silly. 

 

They are just a free pretty

[Cash]

8 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

My ask was, how does the Bills injury situation (a difference maker on D and a hoped-for D difference maker, plus another D starter on IR) compare to other teams that have managed to be in contention for playoffs.  To me that means leading the division or in position for a WC.

Chargers are contending.  I don't follow them that closely.  What starters or game changers they got on the IR or multi weeks on the injury report?

 

Bengals are out.  Colts - they're 3rd in their division, 2 games back, and also 2 games back from the 2 current wild card contenders.  They're not mathematically eliminated but unless they run the tables for Rivers here on out, doesn't look good.

I got to acknowledge the Ravens. At 7-7  I don't think of them as contending for the playoffs, but Dang!  if the Dolphins surprise the Steelers they're right there.
They're almost OK now with only Madubuike on IR, but they had it pretty bad with the injury report for a stretch there.  Worse than the Bills for reals.  I grant that.

 

 

Top of my head, Chargers have lost both OTs for the year, rookie Hampton was out for a while, and Herbert is playing with a broken hand. They’ve definitely had a rough go of it. 

[Jrb1979]

17 hours ago, HOUSE said:

This is why I never listen to the guy.

You guys have fun

 

 

I get it. You think he's wrong cause the Bills won. He didn't say the Bills are a bad team carried by the best QB in the league. 

The Bills are good team that lack playnakers. They have Cook and Allen. 

The rest are average to good players. They don't have an elite pass rusher, elite WR or an elite secondary like most top teams do. 

 

What he said isn't wrong. 

[Nihilarian]

10 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

I get it. You think he's wrong cause the Bills won. He didn't say the Bills are a bad team carried by the best QB in the league. 

The Bills are good team that lack playmakers. They have Cook and Allen. 

The rest are average to good players. They don't have an elite pass rusher, elite WR or an elite secondary like most top teams do. 

 

What he said isn't wrong. 

This is where I disagree, as I think the Bills have talent. They are just not noted as yet. Joey Bosa is an elite pass rusher. They have elite tight ends in Knox, Kincaid. They proved last season that they don't need that prototypical elite WR, as they led the league in scoring. I also believe that they have elite DBs in Cole Bishop, Max Hairston, along with Christian Benford, as the former's just haven't proven themselves just yet. Benford is elite already. 

 

This team has talent, it's just not the spectacular type that we see in other teams. It's more of the blue-collar types we used to see in the Bill Parcells teams. So many Bills fans think Keon Coleman is a bust because he hasn't exploded with a bunch of yards and TDs, yet he blocks his butt off for the run game. Did anyone else notice the great block he threw to help Josh Allen on a run scramble? TE Jackson Hawes might be the best young blocking TE in the game right now.

 

There is a reason why Buffalo is so good in the run game, and it has to do with the supposed non-elite players on the offensive line, WRs, and TEs that allow James Cook to cook. (Dion Dawkins is elite) Ray Davis averaged 40+ yards a kick return in the last game. Unsung heroes that might not get noticed by the world unless the Bills can get to an SB. I see them! 

 

Just my 2 cents. 

[Don Otreply]

Locker room motivation??

[PoundingDog]

@Nihilarian, I don't know I'll use the word "elite" as you did on many Bills players, especially on D. Joey Bosa was an elite pass rusher, but not any more. Now and then, He does flash his elite form of the past. You'll see what an elite pass rusher looks like next Sunday - speaking of that, for God's sake, I hope Brady plan some help for Dion. You see what kind of stress led to #15 of the Chiefs all season; we need to protect our #17 at all cost.

 

Max Hairston, elite? He might be average to below average now (not indicative what he is likely going forward). Cole Bishop became a solid starter in this league, but no opposing QB will say I need to find out where Bishop is on every single snap. Boundary CB is judged differently. Benford had a few splash plays lately, but he is not a shutdown corner that can take away half of the field.  

 

All I'm saying is that it is clear the D lacks elite talent that you need to be coached well and everyone has to do their assignment in sync to get a few stops. That's why you see those halves of the Patriots and Bengals games where when things were not going well, people tried to do other people's job and they just got gashed all over for long stretches. If you have some pure bred studs in the front 7, that guy may single handedly stop a drive or two in those situations, like you see Chris Jones has done from time to time. The half time adjustment McDermott/Babich has done, in my opinion, is to ID what the offense is doing to them, adjusting everyone's individual responsibility and having them stick to it. I do want to point out that the passing defense assignment is, generally speaking, pretty sound - you don't see any huge break down there like you see on run defense.