Big Ben on Mike Tomlin's Future in Pittsburgh

[ryguy101]

Big Ben (Ben Roethlisberger) thinks that Mike Tomlin could "probably go win national championships" as a candidate for Penn State head coaching gig. 

 

On his podcast, Big Ben said, "Maybe it's time. I like Coach Tomlin. I have a lot of respect for Coach Tomlin. But maybe it's best for him, too. Maybe a fresh start for him is what's best. Whether that's in the pros, maybe go be Penn State's head coach. You know what he would do at Penn State? He'd probably go win national championships, because he's a great recruiter."

 

Now will that happen? Probably not. His last college job was from 1999-2000 as Cincinnati's defensive back coach

 

Tomlin is however in danger of breaking the league record 18-straight winning seasons. Fans are starting to get antsy with him as we saw the Steelers getting booed off the field last week in the loss to the Bills 26-7.

 

"Here's what you don't do," Roethlisberger said. "You don't fire a guy like Coach Tomlin. He's a Hall of Fame coach. What you do is you come to an understanding and agreement. It's like, 'Hey, listen, I think it's probably best for both of us.' … Coach Tomlin's been here a long time. You would give him a statue, do whatever you gotta do, because he deserves it. He's earned it. But it's like, OK, it's time to find that next guy."

 

Tomlin said 4 years ago, "Why would I have any interest in coaching college football? That'll be the last time that I address it. And not only today, but moving forward. Never say never, but never. OK? Anybody else got any questions about any college jobs? There's not a booster with a big enough blank check."

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ben-roethlisberger-mike-tomlin-steelers-penn-state-football/

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

The whole AFCN needs to clean house. 

[QCity]

7 minutes ago, ryguy101 said:

Tomlin said 4 years ago, "Why would I have any interest in coaching college football? There's not a booster with a big enough blank check."

 

 

I don't know Mike, there's been some pretty big checks going around lately...

[MikePJ76]

Who cares what a rapist says about anything?

[RiotAct]

1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

The whole AFCN needs to clean house. 

that’s actually fairly plausible when you think about it.   Wouldn’t that be funny if Tomlin, Stefanski, Harbaugh, and Taylor were all let go this offseason.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

3 hours ago, ryguy101 said:

Big Ben (Ben Roethlisberger) thinks that Mike Tomlin could "probably go win national championships" as a candidate for Penn State head coaching gig. 

 

On his podcast, Big Ben said, "Maybe it's time. I like Coach Tomlin. I have a lot of respect for Coach Tomlin. But maybe it's best for him, too. Maybe a fresh start for him is what's best. Whether that's in the pros, maybe go be Penn State's head coach. You know what he would do at Penn State? He'd probably go win national championships, because he's a great recruiter."

 

Now will that happen? Probably not. His last college job was from 1999-2000 as Cincinnati's defensive back coach

 

Tomlin is however in danger of breaking the league record 18-straight winning seasons. Fans are starting to get antsy with him as we saw the Steelers getting booed off the field last week in the loss to the Bills 26-7.

 

"Here's what you don't do," Roethlisberger said. "You don't fire a guy like Coach Tomlin. He's a Hall of Fame coach. What you do is you come to an understanding and agreement. It's like, 'Hey, listen, I think it's probably best for both of us.' … Coach Tomlin's been here a long time. You would give him a statue, do whatever you gotta do, because he deserves it. He's earned it. But it's like, OK, it's time to find that next guy."

 

Tomlin said 4 years ago, "Why would I have any interest in coaching college football? That'll be the last time that I address it. And not only today, but moving forward. Never say never, but never. OK? Anybody else got any questions about any college jobs? There's not a booster with a big enough blank check."

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ben-roethlisberger-mike-tomlin-steelers-penn-state-football/

 

James Harrisons response was even worse.  He said Tomlin is a good coach, but not a great coach.

[strive_for_five_guy]

37 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

James Harrisons response was even worse.  He said Tomlin is a good coach, but not a great coach.

 

 

 

[T master]

13 hours ago, ryguy101 said:

Big Ben (Ben Roethlisberger) thinks that Mike Tomlin could "probably go win national championships" as a candidate for Penn State head coaching gig. 

 

On his podcast, Big Ben said, "Maybe it's time. I like Coach Tomlin. I have a lot of respect for Coach Tomlin. But maybe it's best for him, too. Maybe a fresh start for him is what's best. Whether that's in the pros, maybe go be Penn State's head coach. You know what he would do at Penn State? He'd probably go win national championships, because he's a great recruiter."

 

Now will that happen? Probably not. His last college job was from 1999-2000 as Cincinnati's defensive back coach

 

Tomlin is however in danger of breaking the league record 18-straight winning seasons. Fans are starting to get antsy with him as we saw the Steelers getting booed off the field last week in the loss to the Bills 26-7.

 

"Here's what you don't do," Roethlisberger said. "You don't fire a guy like Coach Tomlin. He's a Hall of Fame coach. What you do is you come to an understanding and agreement. It's like, 'Hey, listen, I think it's probably best for both of us.' … Coach Tomlin's been here a long time. You would give him a statue, do whatever you gotta do, because he deserves it. He's earned it. But it's like, OK, it's time to find that next guy."

 

Tomlin said 4 years ago, "Why would I have any interest in coaching college football? That'll be the last time that I address it. And not only today, but moving forward. Never say never, but never. OK? Anybody else got any questions about any college jobs? There's not a booster with a big enough blank check."

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ben-roethlisberger-mike-tomlin-steelers-penn-state-football/

WOW This sounds pretty familiar now doesn't it !! Maybe seeing as both Tomlin and McD are from William and Mary they can have a double excommunication of coaches then both the Bills fans and Steelers fans would be ecstatic & get a 2 for 1 .

[Captain Hindsight]

Big ben is such a blowhard. There's a reason he's never been on a network show, even as a guest analyst. Its 100% time for Tomlin to go, but he's more likely to end as the HC of the Giants than Penn State

[BuffaloBillyG]

2 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Big ben is such a blowhard. There's a reason he's never been on a network show, even as a guest analyst. Its 100% time for Tomlin to go, but he's more likely to end as the HC of the Giants than Penn State

I think if either the long term coaches from that division are canned it will seal McDaniel's fate in Miami. Ross cannot resist big names. And truthfully, a Tomlin or Harbaugh is probably needed to reset the culture down there. Refocus guys from the club scene to the football field.

[Augie]

14 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

The whole AFCN needs to clean house. 

 

The Bengals are too cheap for housekeepers. The best they will do is run a leaf blower thru the kitchen.  

[ticketssince61]

How can Ben say he is a "Great Recruiter"?

 

He hasn't recruited in 25+ years and that was pre NIL's

Edited 4 hours ago by ticketssince61

[RyanC883]

Tomlin is totally stale.  He won 1 SB with Big Ben, AB, and L. Bell, along with a great defense.  That does not scream "elite" and "untouchable".  Only the doofy Rooney's would continue to employ him and treat him like Lombardi or something.  Heck, even Bill Bellicheck was shown the door after winning 6 SBs.  Tomlin needs to go.  And yeah, you can fire a guy like him, and you should.  Why can't you.  

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I think if either the long term coaches from that division are canned it will seal McDaniel's fate in Miami. Ross cannot resist big names. And truthfully, a Tomlin or Harbaugh is probably needed to reset the culture down there. Refocus guys from the club scene to the football field.

 

That's what Tomlin and Harbaugh (and perhaps McD) are best at.  Culture reset pros.  Nothing wrong with that.  These guys rarely get the max when they have talented rosters, but they setup a system that another coach could come in and build off of.  

 

Wonder what happened of the rumors regarding Brady (OC) to PSU?  Perhaps he is one of the next options?  If so, and McDaniel got canned, he'd be a good OC here.  

1 hour ago, ticketssince61 said:

How can Ben say he is a "Great Recruiter"?

 

He hasn't recruited in 25+ years and that was pre NIL's

 

It's funny.  Tomlin has done a lot (or all) of the draft selections, and Pittsburgh's roster is really bad now.  

[PromoTheRobot]

16 hours ago, ryguy101 said:

Big Ben (Ben Roethlisberger) thinks that Mike Tomlin could "probably go win national championships" as a candidate for Penn State head coaching gig. 

 

On his podcast, Big Ben said, "Maybe it's time. I like Coach Tomlin. I have a lot of respect for Coach Tomlin. But maybe it's best for him, too. Maybe a fresh start for him is what's best. Whether that's in the pros, maybe go be Penn State's head coach. You know what he would do at Penn State? He'd probably go win national championships, because he's a great recruiter."

 

Now will that happen? Probably not. His last college job was from 1999-2000 as Cincinnati's defensive back coach

 

Tomlin is however in danger of breaking the league record 18-straight winning seasons. Fans are starting to get antsy with him as we saw the Steelers getting booed off the field last week in the loss to the Bills 26-7.

 

"Here's what you don't do," Roethlisberger said. "You don't fire a guy like Coach Tomlin. He's a Hall of Fame coach. What you do is you come to an understanding and agreement. It's like, 'Hey, listen, I think it's probably best for both of us.' … Coach Tomlin's been here a long time. You would give him a statue, do whatever you gotta do, because he deserves it. He's earned it. But it's like, OK, it's time to find that next guy."

 

Tomlin said 4 years ago, "Why would I have any interest in coaching college football? That'll be the last time that I address it. And not only today, but moving forward. Never say never, but never. OK? Anybody else got any questions about any college jobs? There's not a booster with a big enough blank check."

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ben-roethlisberger-mike-tomlin-steelers-penn-state-football/

 

Winning sucks.

 

I get it, I get it. You want to win it all at least once.

[BuffaloBillyG]

27 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

Tomlin is totally stale.  He won 1 SB with Big Ben, AB, and L. Bell, along with a great defense.  That does not scream "elite" and "untouchable".  Only the doofy Rooney's would continue to employ him and treat him like Lombardi or something.  Heck, even Bill Bellicheck was shown the door after winning 6 SBs.  Tomlin needs to go.  And yeah, you can fire a guy like him, and you should.  Why can't you.  

 

That's what Tomlin and Harbaugh (and perhaps McD) are best at.  Culture reset pros.  Nothing wrong with that.  These guys rarely get the max when they have talented rosters, but they setup a system that another coach could come in and build off of.  

 

Wonder what happened of the rumors regarding Brady (OC) to PSU?  Perhaps he is one of the next options?  If so, and McDaniel got canned, he'd be a good OC here.  

 

It's funny.  Tomlin has done a lot (or all) of the draft selections, and Pittsburgh's roster is really bad now.  

I agree with all your points, except the bolded. 

 

If McDaniel gets canned, he will, IMO prove to be a horrendous OC on his own. He basically brought Shanny's system with him and added speed. Once teams figured out how to limit the offense, he has had no idea how to evolve. 

 

He frequently gets locked into one mindset when calling plays and often abandons the run, despite his most dangerous offensive weapon being his RB. Not ideal when our best offensive player this year is our RB, and we tend to play more than a few games in bad weather every year.

 

Add to that the Shannahan system he would likey run isn't really what Josh excels at. It's more designed for mediocre QBs with weaker yet accurate passing styles. Tua, Purdy, Mac Jones. Guy that get the ball out and don't go off script. That's not Allen and I frankly don't think McDaniel has the ability to tailor an offense around him. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

2 hours ago, Augie said:

 

The Bengals are too cheap for housekeepers. The best they will do is run a leaf blower thru the kitchen.  

Rotational.  One week, it's a guy from the offense, next week, a guy from the defense.  Mike Brown gets value for his payroll dollar!

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Your post looks remarkably like something HOUSE would write. 😁

Edited 2 hours ago by Ridgewaycynic2013

[dcinmuncie]

15 hours ago, RiotAct said:

that’s actually fairly plausible when you think about it.   Wouldn’t that be funny if Tomlin, Stefanski, Harbaugh, and Taylor were all let go this offseason.

all hired by buffalo

 

stefanski for oc

harbaugh for special teams coach

tomlin for dc 

and we need to find something for taylor to do for us🤣

[DapperCam]

Half the reason the Steelers are in their current predicament is that Big Ben hung on for way too long and didn’t let the Steelers draft his replacement and retool/rebuild. Pretty rich for him to be giving an opinion at this point.

[Augie]

1 hour ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Rotational.  One week, it's a guy from the offense, next week, a guy from the defense.  Mike Brown gets value for his payroll dollar!

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Your post looks remarkably like something HOUSE would write. 😁

 

Have you ever seen me and @HOUSE in the same place at the same time??? 

 

I didn’t think so…..

[corta765]

2 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

Tomlin is totally stale.  He won 1 SB with Big Ben, AB, and L. Bell, along with a great defense.  That does not scream "elite" and "untouchable".  Only the doofy Rooney's would continue to employ him and treat him like Lombardi or something.  Heck, even Bill Bellicheck was shown the door after winning 6 SBs.  Tomlin needs to go.  And yeah, you can fire a guy like him, and you should.  Why can't you.  

There is something to be said for continuity, program, and culture in football. Many of the best orgs in sports do not make drastic changes regularly to mgmt or coach if they consistently are winning ... whereas many of the worst orgs its change after change 24/7.

 

WITH that said... at some point you have to evaluate your goals for your organization and what you are aiming for. The NFL is vastly different from even 10 years ago, coaches messages can run dry at some point (even the best), and saying "hey we appreciate to the max everything you have done but we need to carefully do something new" is a proper approach when the majority of the arrows are pointing down on your direction.

 

The Eagles I have a ton of respect since Lurie took over because they org is consistent from owner to mgmt on what the goals are and the approach. They have had a few coaches since Reid but they do not settle for what they expect and all of the coaches have had anywhere from 3-5 years to implement their program. Additionally they have not had the benefit of a franchise QB since McNabb although Hurts is pretty good, yet have won very consistently in that time.

 

My uncle once said that in football once you have a winning org your goal is to keep that vibrancy and culture with good people for as long as possible without taking a wreckling ball to it. The Bills drought non surprisingly started when Butler and staff was fired who proceeded to help make the Chargers into a strong program.