8th In "D" - 2nd in "O"!?!?!

[MarlinTheMagician]

Was surprised to see FoxSports rankings based on yards after this week.  We are 2nd in offense and 8th in defense?!  It has not looked nearly that good to me under the "eye test", but if the D can really be a true top 10 unit and the offense can get it together - we could have something with that kind of balance.  Lotta season left. 

[BillytheKid]

You know who else finished with the number 2 rated offense and number 8 rated defense? 
 

The 2014 Patriots who won the Super Bowl. 
 

They finished 12-4 in the regular season. 

[boater]

The problem is: you don't know which Bills will show up.

 

The Bills who manhandled the Chiefs or Panthers--or the Bills who collapsed at Texans/Dolphins. I would score those two versions of the Bills very differently.

[BillytheKid]

2 minutes ago, boater said:

The problem is: you don't know which Bills will show up.

 

The Bills who manhandled the Chiefs or Panthers--or the Bills who collapsed at Texans/Dolphins. I would score those two versions of the Bills very differently.

I don’t think you can put the Texans in the same category as the Dolphins. 
 

The Texans defense is legit. Although I do think the Bills will beat them if the Bills have most of their guys back and we play them again. 

[johndhall1]

Currently 6th in points for and twelfth in points against. The only stats that matter imho.

[TheBrownBear]

Does anyone remember that San Diego Chargers team that finished both first in total Offense and Defense, but somehow still missed the playoffs at 9-7?

Edited 2 hours ago by TheBrownBear

[Augie]

18 minutes ago, boater said:

The problem is: you don't know which Bills will show up.

 

The Bills who manhandled the Chiefs or Panthers--or the Bills who collapsed at Texans/Dolphins. I would score those two versions of the Bills very differently.

 

We are trying to get the clunkers out of the way, getting ready for the Miracle Click! Peak at the right time! 

[PonyBoy]

38 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

Does anyone remember that San Diego Chargers team that finished both first in total Offense and Defense, but somehow still missed the playoffs at 9-7?

 

Good memory!

That was a crazy anomaly that year for them. 

[HardyBoy]

56 minutes ago, boater said:

The problem is: you don't know which Bills will show up.

 

The Bills who manhandled the Chiefs or Panthers--or the Bills who collapsed at Texans/Dolphins. I would score those two versions of the Bills very differently.

 

Crazy humid game and super short rest on the road is what happened against the Texans and Dolphins and Falcons...

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, HardyBoy said:

 

Crazy humid game and super short rest on the road is what happened against the Texans and Dolphins and Falcons...

 

They didn't have a super short rest vs Atlanta. They played New England on a SNF and then Atlanta on the road on MNF did they not? They actually had an extra day...

[Comebackkid]

not to mention..even the Jets beat Atlanta..which..also not to mention the game against the Jets we looked like a world beater rushing team.

 

[Chicken Boo]

A prime example of how stats don't tell the entire story.  

[HardyBoy]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

They didn't have a super short rest vs Atlanta. They played New England on a SNF and then Atlanta on the road on MNF did they not? They actually had an extra day...

 

Haha damn you, I tosses Atlanta in there because I knew it was an off Sunday game and made an assumption...I was at a networking happy hour event tonight and had a drink or two...haha I was soooo close to making my point

 

Atlanta was a bad loss, but at the same time the bills are a very reliant on a good game script team that also ironically is not always great in the first half...it's very confusing, but I was definitely not right about including Atlanta in there

[Doc Brown]

11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

They didn't have a super short rest vs Atlanta. They played New England on a SNF and then Atlanta on the road on MNF did they not? They actually had an extra day...

Atlanta had a bye week in week 5 so they had 15 days to prepare.  Dolphins had three extra days because of TNF.  The other two losses their wasn't a rest advantage.

Edited 1 hour ago by Doc Brown

[zow2]

The D getting better gives me hope plus i think the Bills are done “mailing in” games. They should be intense from here on out. It’s. basically playoffs every week now, unless they are locked in for week 17 and then maybe guys get rested.

[billsfan89]

46 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

Does anyone remember that San Diego Chargers team that finished both first in total Offense and Defense, but somehow still missed the playoffs at 9-7?

 

They had not only the worst Special Teams unit in the league that year but one of the worst special teams units of all time in 2010. So much so that giving up the least yards per game defensively and gaining the most yards on offense they still managed to only be 9-7 and miss the playoffs. The Special Teams unit contributed to their turnover margin not being that great (at +6 it wasn't bad but just above average) and the Special Teams frequently gave opposing offenses short fields to work with so the defense yards allowed was somewhat inflated by not having that many yards to give up (although they still ranked 10th in terms of points per game). 

 

That team was best on offense and defense in the league that year but freaking historically awful on special teams. Their average margin of victory was 14 points their margin defeat was 4.4 points. All of their losses were by one possession margins. Shows you how important special teams are...

[NewEra]

Can’t help who you play but;

Lamar

Maye

Mahomes

Baker

 

tua x2

fields

mills

dalton

1 armed Rodgers

penix

rattler

 

twice as many bottom tier QBs as top tier 

[dayman]

Who cares about season yards.

 

1. We got lucky against a then-good Baltimore team after being dominated.

 

2. We pounded a pathetic Jets team.

 

3. We pulled away at the end after a pretty even game against the bad Dolphins.

 

4. We beat a horrible Saints team, not that badly.

 

5. Pats took our crown while @Buf

 

6. Demolished by the Falcons, who suck. Could have been far worse loss. Still bad loss.

 

7. Destroyed the not so good Panthers. They’re up and down, they didn’t have it that day. That was a bad team that day. We just ran a toss play. 
 

8. Beat the Chiefs. Not your fathers Chiefs.

 

9. Got crushed by the horrible Dolphins. Embarrassing.

 

10. Good win at home against the Bucs. Gave up over 30 points though, to a team with best weapons out hurt.

 

11. Utterly destroyed by Texas. Score is misleading. 
 

12. Gave the death blow to an already dying Steelers team that may be the worst team in the league right now.

 

 

Our best win remains week 1 fluke to come back and beat the Ravens when they gave us the ball back at the end. They were good then, but their defense still sucked. I guess the Bucs win was ok but man did the defense suck. That’s about it. Those are our noteworthy accomplishments, a fluke comeback in week 1 and a shootout at home against a very injured Bucs team. In between, we had some games we won and lost, quite a few very bad losses.

 

Don’t tell me about yards. Tell me we’ve had our asses kicked several times and had very few (perhaps none) truly impressive wins.

 

Go Bills! Let’s get hot and win the SB the year we suck somehow!

 

 

 

 

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

2 hours ago, boater said:

The problem is: you don't know which Bills will show up.

 

The Bills who manhandled the Chiefs or Panthers--or the Bills who collapsed at Texans/Dolphins. I would score those two versions of the Bills very differently.

agreed. We basically play well every other game. 

[rajinka]

Turnovers.  Tbh this team is a mirror of last year except we didn't turn the ball over,  didn't take sacks and we got a ton of turnovers.  The offensive inconsistencies and defensive meh games were the same.