Jags listening to trade calls for Brian Thomas

[Richard Noggin]

8 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

There's something to this... it took Tremaine 4 years, until he was 19 years old, before he became assignment-sound.

 

 

And that was just this season. 

[Thurman#1]

"even if a move feels highly unlikely," says Russini.

 

Yeah, that. Might be one of those, "We'll listen, but unless you blow us away, forget about it," deals.

 

Can't see it happening, really. Wouldn't mind a bit if it did, but the likelihood is just miniscule.

 

Haven't kept up with Thomas, really, so I can't say anything either way about the folks here saying he hasn't been very good this year. Interesting, and it makes you wonder why.

 

But again, can't see this happening.

Edited 8 hours ago by Thurman#1

[Thurman#1]

5 hours ago, ***** said:

By far the best player on that list is Diggs, whom we traded a pick for.  Everyone else is average at best. 

 

 

Nonsense. Ridiculous.

 

Groot is living up to his pick. Not exceeding it, but he's living up to it. Oliver keeps improving, he also is playing really really well. This DL is a different entity when he's in there.

 

Kincaid shows signs of becoming a top five TE, and soon. Not there yet, but he's very close.

 

Certainly Elam is a failure, even if he seems to be significantly better in the different system they're using in Dallas. In ours, though, he simply wasn't good enough.

 

Edmunds played really well. It's not a mistake that he got what is now, two years later, still the 3rd highest ILB contract in football according to Spotrac.

 

People hear someone is a 1st rounder and say, "How come he's not playing like this guy, who was top ten, and this guy who was top five and this guy who was #12?" It's a lot harder to get players with genuinely huge impact late in the first, it just is. It happens, but at lower rates.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

You ppl are dreaming if you think Brandon Beane, arguably the worst evaluator of WR in the NFL, is going to do this.

 

Steel yourselves for disappointment.

[nucci]

17 hours ago, Roundybout said:

It’s almost like he flat-out doesn’t like playing with Lawrence 

Lawrence gets his receivers killed. 

[Sierra Foothills]

21 minutes ago, nucci said:

Lawrence gets his receivers killed. 

 

Every time I see this guy, the same questions come to mind:

 

1) When is he gonna cut that damned hair?

2) Is he too much of a narcissist to cut his hair?

3) Will he ever reach the point where self-loathing overpowers narcissism, causing him to cut his hair?

 

Every time.

 

[Pete]

8 hours ago, Chaos said:

Given the complexity of the Bill's offensive scheme is hard to imagine him being ready to play for the Bills before next season.    

Complexity LMAO.  Brady can’t get 1 yard in short and 1.  Go watch the 49ers and Lions if you want to see some complexity.  Nothing complex about bubble screen and no passes longer than 10 yards.  Brady complex 😂 🤣 😂 🤣 

[NewEra]

20 minutes ago, Pete said:

Complexity LMAO.  Brady can’t get 1 yard in short and 1.  Go watch the 49ers and Lions if you want to see some complexity.  Nothing complex about bubble screen and no passes longer than 10 yards.  Brady complex 😂 🤣 😂 🤣 

It was sarcasm Pete

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

28 minutes ago, NewEra said:

It was sarcasm Pete

Pro Tip:  add a 😂 emoji to your post so that others understand that it was meant to be sarcasm. You’re welcome. 

[Pecker]

3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Nonsense. Ridiculous.

 

Groot is living up to his pick. Not exceeding it, but he's living up to it. Oliver keeps improving, he also is playing really really well. This DL is a different entity when he's in there.

 

Kincaid shows signs of becoming a top five TE, and soon. Not there yet, but he's very close.

 

Certainly Elam is a failure, even if he seems to be significantly better in the different system they're using in Dallas. In ours, though, he simply wasn't good enough.

 

Edmunds played really well. It's not a mistake that he got what is now, two years later, still the 3rd highest ILB contract in football according to Spotrac.

 

People hear someone is a 1st rounder and say, "How come he's not playing like this guy, who was top ten, and this guy who was top five and this guy who was #12?" It's a lot harder to get players with genuinely huge impact late in the first, it just is. It happens, but at lower rates.

I don’t think it’s ridiculous at all. Oliver is a huge letdown for a top 10 pick.  You say he “keeps improving” which he does, but hes been in the league too long to still be waiting.  He is also a huge letdown for his $24-25 million cap hit.  That’s a MASSIVE contract.  Both Oliver and Groot can go for an entire month or more without making a single impact play.  Total inconsistency.  Groot at least has a low cap hit the next year or two.  But to my eye AJE generates more pressure on 1/4 the snaps.  And don’t get me started on how good he is against the run, because it certainly doesn’t show, or help the team.  
 

Guys like them not producing are literally why we have struggled to win the tough games. 
 

if Oliver were Jalen Carter or Chris Jones we’d have won a SB by now.  
 

Kinkaid is a pretty good pass catching TE but he’s hardly a complete TE and he still isn’t impactful enough on a consistent basis.  Is he really any better than Knox? He is used differently, he’s basically a big WR. He can’t hold a candle to old A** Kelce 

 

and for the record, I think Oliver could be a cut candidate this offseason, his contract is way too high.

[NewEra]

25 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

Pro Tip:  add a 😂 emoji to your post so that others understand that it was meant to be sarcasm. You’re welcome. 

It wasn’t my post….

 

maybe someone else will thank you.  
 

😂 

[Since1981]

seems like BB either undervalues wide receivers, isn’t great at evaluating them, or maybe both. Here’s another possibility: maybe Josh, since the Diggs trade, has had more sway in those final decisions. I’d assume 17 has a veto or at least a vote on the final options.

[QCity]

This just doesn't make a lot of sense for Jax. I'd like to wave this off as complete BS but there's so much smoke.  Jax has 13 picks in the 2026 draft but lacks a first.  Huh.

[Pete]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

It was sarcasm Pete

Brady complex I’m laughing my ass off!  Bwahaaaa!

[HOUSE]

Brandon Beane is offering Baylon Spector and a 5th rounder in 2028

[harryS]

2 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

You ppl are dreaming if you think Brandon Beane, arguably the worst evaluator of WR in the NFL, is going to do this.

 

Steel yourselves for disappointment.

 

Maybe Beane see the BTJ's year 2 film and gets a stiffy.  BTJ is probably still flashing too much talent but you never know

[The Firebaugh Kid]

10 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Of course there's something up, but it doesn't automatically make the trade not worth it. 

 

He's playing in a brand new offense with a brand new Head Coach who is also the playcaller. As you said, he was phenomenal last year with a different Head Coach and playcaller. Maybe he's unhappy with his fit in the offense and that's the root of all the problems.

 

If so, I don't view that as a dealbreaker in any way in terms of trading for him. It didn't with Diggs. If we had the CAP space it wouldn't with AJ Brown.

 

He had almost 1300 receiving yards and 10 TDs last year. He did that in the NFL as a rookie and is under cost control for 2 1/2 more years.

 

I want to see this happen. He's a better bet than any rookie WR and would immediately step in as our #1.

It’s also no secret that Buffalo was planning to draft him. If Jacksonville is really listening to reasonable trade offers I expect this to be done this week. This guy is exactly what we need I know he’s having a hard year but he can stretch the field and be a dominant player on a rookie deal. I would give them a second rounder. 

48 minutes ago, harryS said:

 

Maybe Beane see the BTJ's year 2 film and gets a stiffy.  BTJ is probably still flashing too much talent but you never know

I can’t argue with that. I also think their draft position has really limited their ability to get top talent in the draft.

[RyanC883]

This has to happen.  But Bean will go with a 2nd tier Wr and claim the cost for BJT was too high.  Then draft a JAG in Rd 1 and 2.  

[T master]

22 hours ago, DJB said:

 

If they are looking for some folks on the defensive side it's not like the Bills don't have a couple that their contracts are coming up that are decent players and could afford to trade before they just walk in FA after this season AJ is one that comes to mind and they may be able to throw in another under whelming sort just to sweeten the pot a bit like a 2 for 1 type deal .

[DrPJax]

21 hours ago, Roundybout said:

It’s almost like he flat-out doesn’t like playing with Lawrence 

     Look, some guys don’t translate well to the NFL.  Coleman has had his issues after Poyer 

hit him and he is still not eager for contact.   Why take on another head case?  Bills have enough guys who end up as healthy scratches ; we can’t fix every problem player and in fact look at what happened with cooper.  His enthusiasm was waning and he played soft and missed more games after his “ wrist injury”, only to retire this year.  Samuels has been another mess. Palmer had so far been disappointing. This guy has looked terrible in Jax and so why bring in another receiver with issues when it’s already a problem issue?  Quit falling in love with names; production matters and film doesn’t lie.
       The Bills can’t even develop their own home grown 5th wr who made it this year, and our OC can’t use the current wr corp  in a way to help them get open so why would you think a struggling wr is a good thing to pursue?  Allen isn’t playing his best either so it’s not like he is some wr whisperer currently. If they can’t bring in a seasoned vet who has proven he can produce the chances are that wr even reaching the field are slim based on past use of additions mid season by this team.  What has Allen brought out of Palmer? Be realistic. Beane is not about to admit he failed to address the wr corp appropriately, just ask Jeremy white!   Why expect any midseason addition will play some great role; when was the last time that happened as in their minds based on mcds pressers , the offense and defensive playbooks are very complicated and it takes a while to get up to speed.  That’s not how other teams work but it’s been proven that’s this coaching regimes historical pattern. This team needs help, not another problem to solve. Maybe they should prove they can fix Coleman before adding another underperforming head case !